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2020/07/05 09:23:28 (permalink)
Hi,
 
It says that the power limit is 373w for this card, is this true?
 
Is 373w with the slider at 100% or all the way at 124%?
 
If it's the latter, what's the power limit when the slider is at 100%?
 
 
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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/05 09:47:57 (permalink)
    I would assume 373 is the top end. Me, being bad with math, 373 X .24 = 89.52. 373 - 89.52 = 283.48 watts at 100%.

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/05 09:53:11 (permalink)
    Yeah i was thinking 280 watt was the 100% mark on them. 




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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/05 09:57:16 (permalink)
    arestavo
    I would assume 373 is the top end. Me, being bad with math, 373 X .24 = 89.52. 373 - 89.52 = 283.48 watts at 100%.


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    Yeah i was thinking 280 watt was the 100% mark on them. 



    On this forum thread it seems that it states power limit being 300/373. Not sure what to trust now. https://www.overclock.net/forum/69-nvidia/1706276-official-nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-owner-s-club.html
     
     
     

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/05 13:46:40 (permalink)

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/05 15:45:25 (permalink)
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    It's 300/373...
     
    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/207756/evga-rtx2080ti-11264-181029




    gotcha, thanks
     
    any bios to increase this?

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/05 15:51:40 (permalink)
    You could try the 2080 ti kingpin ln2 vbios which allows up to 520 at max power limit... https://xdevs.com/doc/_PC_HW/EVGA/E200/bios/2589L390.rom
     
    100% on the kingpin ln2 vbios allows up to 361w.

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/05 16:34:12 (permalink)
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    I would assume 373 is the top end. Me, being bad with math, 373 X .24 = 89.52. 373 - 89.52 = 283.48 watts at 100%.

    Your math is wrong.
    You need to get 24% of 300w (72w). Or divide 373 by 1.24 (300).
     
    373w is 124%, so you cant multiply 373w by 0.24 to get that additional part of 24%. If you want to get that additional part from 373 as 124% - you need to multiply it by 24/124 (~73), not 24/100.

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/05 16:37:07 (permalink)
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    gotcha, thanks
     any bios to increase this?

    Are you need that thought?
     
    I never saw my ftw3 to be power limited, its always voltage limited. Even in games like rdr2 card with OC sitting on ~110-115% of power limit, so there is enough room.

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/05 17:03:21 (permalink)
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    gotcha, thanks
     any bios to increase this?

    Are you need that thought?
     
    I never saw my ftw3 to be power limited, its always voltage limited. Even in games like rdr2 card with OC sitting on ~110-115% of power limit, so there is enough room.




    Voltage limitation / voltage decrease is because the card hits power limit.

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/05 17:16:18 (permalink)
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    Voltage limitation / voltage decrease is because the card hits power limit.


    What is your perf-cap reason?  Pwr?  If it doesn't say "Pwr", then I disagree.
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2020/07/05 17:26:34
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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/05 17:22:44 (permalink)
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    Voltage limitation / voltage decrease is because the card hits power limit.

    Nope. 
    I mean yes, if your card hitting power limit - it starts dropping voltage and frequency. But in case of ftw3 and its 373w power limit - it actually never hits that powerlimit and working on maximum voltage / frequency instead.
    As I said - on my card power consumption is about 110-115%. While voltage is about 1.06-1.09 depending on gpu temperature.
     
    And whuile my previous card (rog strix) was hitting powerlimit constantly (330w) - it is not a problem on ftw3 at all. So I doubt you need to flash anything instead of stock bios.
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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/05 17:57:06 (permalink)
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    Voltage limitation / voltage decrease is because the card hits power limit.


    What is your perf-cap reason?  Pwr?  If it doesn't say "Pwr", then I disagree.


    PWR shown in msi AB and GPU-Z

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/06 08:48:34 (permalink)
    Huh?
    Where you getting that results? What voltage and frequency do you observe in the same time? Is that games or some computing?

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/06 09:54:31 (permalink)
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    Huh?
    Where you getting that results? What voltage and frequency do you observe in the same time? Is that games or some computing?




     
    Where: from GPU-Z, HWINFO. Both apps say the same thing for throttle reasons.
     
    App: Benchmarks.
     
     
     
    Also is there a way to control all 3 fans at the same time without Precision X1? Afterburner seems to only control the fan closest to the display outputs.
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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/06 10:11:38 (permalink)
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    Also is there a way to control all 3 fans at the same time without Precision X1? Afterburner seems to only control the fan closest to the display outputs.




    IIRC, AB can only see 2 fans.  PX1 is a must for 3 fan EVGA coolers and ICX sensors.
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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/06 12:01:30 (permalink)
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    App: Benchmarks.
     

    What benchmarks do you using?
    What OC settings? What voltages and frequencies you are getting?

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/06 12:06:30 (permalink)
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    Also is there a way to control all 3 fans at the same time without Precision X1? Afterburner seems to only control the fan closest to the display outputs.




    IIRC, AB can only see 2 fans.  PX1 is a must for 3 fan EVGA coolers and ICX sensors.


     
    for me, AB only can control 1 fan
     
    but sees the ICX sensors
     
     
     

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    App: Benchmarks.
     

    What benchmarks do you using?
    What OC settings? What voltages and frequencies you are getting?


    3dmark full version


    voltage default
    power limits maxed alongside the temp slider

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/06 16:17:29 (permalink)
    I think I got that!
    3dmark (time spy):

    gaming (+ssaa enabling):

     
    So the magic is that this "power limit activated" appears on low levels like 112-114%. You can see it clearly on 2nd screen: my gpu voltage and frequency is constant while powerlimit is registred. And maximum power consumption was about 117%, so no way it actually hit that.
    The actuall moment when card is getting powerlimited - is when your gpu starts to lower voltage and in that case voltage limit is drops to zero. So on first screen my card wasn't powerlimited through all benchmark proccess - but only in moments when voltagelimit dropped to zero. 
     
    So you should check actual power consumption of your card and is it voltage limited and what is your gpu voltage and frequency during tests or better gaming.
    There is no points to flash any bios to your card if you want just play some games and your card is not sitting on powerlimit constantly and you are not interested in world 3dmark records.
     

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/07 13:19:48 (permalink)
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    I think I got that!
    3dmark (time spy):
     
    gaming (+ssaa enabling):
     
    So the magic is that this "power limit activated" appears on low levels like 112-114%. You can see it clearly on 2nd screen: my gpu voltage and frequency is constant while powerlimit is registred. And maximum power consumption was about 117%, so no way it actually hit that.
    The actuall moment when card is getting powerlimited - is when your gpu starts to lower voltage and in that case voltage limit is drops to zero. So on first screen my card wasn't powerlimited through all benchmark proccess - but only in moments when voltagelimit dropped to zero. 
     
    So you should check actual power consumption of your card and is it voltage limited and what is your gpu voltage and frequency during tests or better gaming.
    There is no points to flash any bios to your card if you want just play some games and your card is not sitting on powerlimit constantly and you are not interested in world 3dmark records.
     


     
    But I am
     
    Card has dual bios anyways so might as well take advantage of the 2nd slot to get oc-focused bios?

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/07 13:28:20 (permalink)
    Well, you can try.
    Plus there could be other bioses for ftw3 (like I saw 1000wt limit for rog strix).

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/07 18:23:03 (permalink)
    Why would you use a ROG bios when the KPE XOC bios works fine on these cards.
    Speaking from experience .

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    Re: 2080 TI FTW3 power limit? 2020/07/07 18:25:13 (permalink)
    I wasnt using rog bios on ftw3, I just had rog card with original bios and tried to switch to another, but that didn't bring much difference.

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