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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/10 08:54:40
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Nice work! So, when do a get my 70' Chevelle?
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/11 19:35:27
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knightsilver Nice work! So, when do a get my 70' Chevelle?
how you paying on labor and you do have the car and parts right lol. any how head pipes on , lucas classic engine oil with zinc in motor, gear oil in manual 4speed in , ready to get radiator fluid and be primed for fire and test on sunday . brakes re bleed and working. will post video of motor running
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/11 20:45:30
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Nice welding job the short-pipe btw!
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 06:07:17
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knightsilver Nice welding job the short-pipe btw!
that is from magnaflow it their ptoduct I was comparing to the old part I took off the car
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 11:18:10
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Did you rebuild the complete engine? Is the cam/lifters new? If so, most manufacturers recommend keeping the engine @ 2000 RPM for proper lobe seating. This should be done from the moment engine starts, if I remember it should do so for 20 minutes. If not done properly it can cause premature wear on lobes and lifters. If you have a cam card look at it. Is the ticking from your valve train or exhaust? If it's a solid lifter cam then disregard my asking about ticking. Anyway, I'm sure your happy to make the progress you have. Needs more CowBell!
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 11:40:02
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notfordman Did you rebuild the complete engine? Is the cam/lifters new? If so, most manufacturers recommend keeping the engine @ 2000 RPM for proper lobe seating. This should be done from the moment engine starts, if I remember it should do so for 20 minutes. If not done properly it can cause premature wear on lobes and lifters. If you have a cam card look at it. Is the ticking from your valve train or exhaust? If it's a solid lifter cam then disregard my asking about ticking. Anyway, I'm sure your happy to make the progress you have. Needs more CowBell!
post #47 I believe receipt on motor complete rebuild is yes, it has hydrualic lifters remember motor been down almost 5 to 6 months no run since pulled it only has 200 miles on the break in since rebuild , I will have the machine shop check for possible adjustment of the lash but that is considered normal for that 289 ford motor as for exhaust remember I still need to buy the rest of the kit the head pipes stop and transmission crossmember
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 11:45:05
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Did you pre-lube the engine before starting it? I'm not trying to pooh on your build, I'm just asking to save you problems. [despite my user name:)] I know those engines don't have an adjustable valve train, unless you go custom.
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 12:26:08
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notfordman Did you pre-lube the engine before starting it? I'm not trying to pooh on your build, I'm just asking to save you problems. [despite my user name:)] I know those engines don't have an adjustable valve train, unless you go custom.
yes I primed the motor with no fire removed coil wire, as in just turned it over first but here a video of a 289 with valve like mine https://youtu.be/8nFKom6SMd4 no I do not do like the video on the left is just for reference, summit has good info on the valve adjustment https://youtu.be/8ROU7D-6meY but I will have the speed shop who did my motor look into it it under warranty through them on the rebuild
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 12:37:44
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From what I remember, you don't adjust the valves on a Ford 289 like you would on a Chevy small block. You just torque them all down until they stop at the shoulder on the stud. Check with your local Ford dealership to be certain unless you have installed a solid lifter camshaft.
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 12:48:42
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That was an informative vid, however it doesn't apply to you. On your particular engine, it's just a matter of torqueing the rocker nuts down to w/e the torque is listed. IE: non adjustable. Maybe there is some air in the lifters, that should work out over time. I like to soak new lifters in a pan of oil overnight, I would also fill the oil filter with oil before installing. You should install a nice set of gauges so you can keep tabs on everything. I'm confused when you say 200 miles on break in. Has the engine been used before, or how has it been broken in? All the parts on your list are quality parts, melling oil pump,ect. Is that your receipt or you bought it from someone for $650? Hope it's the latter, for $2500 you could have a pretty hot engine....anyway. It's definitely coming along very nicely, you have done quite a nice job so far. :) Edit: that's exactly right Zuhl. Unless you go adjustable push rods ,ect. SBF don't have an adjustment.
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 12:55:01
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notfordman That was an informative vid, however it doesn't apply to you. On your particular engine, it's just a matter of torqueing the rocker nuts down to w/e the torque is listed. IE: non adjustable. Maybe there is some air in the lifters, that should work out over time. I like to soak new lifters in a pan of oil overnight, I would also fill the oil filter with oil before installing. You should install a nice set of gauges so you can keep tabs on everything. I'm confused when you say 200 miles on break in. Has the engine been used before, or how has it been broken in? All the parts on your list are quality parts, melling oil pump,ect. Is that your receipt or you bought it from someone for $650? Hope it's the latter, for $2500 you could have a pretty hot engine....anyway. It's definitely coming along very nicely, you have done quite a nice job so far. :) Edit: that's exactly right Zuhl. Unless you go adjustable push rods ,ect. SBF don't have an adjustment.
yes the motor was pulled when I removed it after my other 65 v8 car frame rail was so bad it would cost more to work on that car than a v8 swap . the motor was completely rebuilt by the pros as a full block. when I got it back it had break in oil I had to drive it 200 miles to break it in on my 65 green car and to be sure of no leaks with the professional at the speed shop. yes they know what to do they race regularly on sunday. 10w30 lucas classic car oil with zinc only for this motor
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 13:02:26
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 13:10:31
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Notice that the chapter of that book says "V8s with Mechanical Lifters". You should have Hydraulic lifters unless you asked for Solid Lifters specifically.
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 13:25:54
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You don't have mechanical lifters, should be hydraulic. Yours is a 2V engine ,correct and not the K "code" engine?
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 13:48:24
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notfordman You don't have mechanical lifters, should be hydraulic. Yours is a 2V engine ,correct and not the K "code" engine?
my car engine is the c code with hydro lifters I have faith in the people at this place know what they are doing http://bullfrogperformance.net/index.html they have been very helpful even as far as coming to my house and putting the pertronix kit with my disturb in when I brought that engine home. old timers who know the engine well i don't use people who think like autozone wrong pilot bearing(sold me one for 6cly) lol wrong starter(auto vs manual) lol they are hydraulic lifters that what came out when the original un touched motor had before it was rebuilt ford made the 289 with both mech and hydro lifters . ford was known for shortages of parts and use what they had on the assem line that why the 67 to 68 cars had a early 302 with 289 block the car I got this motor from was a c code car period I also had a 66 289(bought from a neighbor that thought it was 5.0 lol my gain his loss) that I sold that had hydraulic lifters and was a k code engine and was correct had a mustang of America club president verify it before he bought it. the 66 289 before I junked it, I had that was bored 60 over had hydro lifters in it too.
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 13:49:55
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Zuhl3156 Notice that the chapter of that book says "V8s with Mechanical Lifters". You should have Hydraulic lifters unless you asked for Solid Lifters specifically.
posted the hydro lifter lash thaks zuh mis took wrong pic
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/12 18:10:16
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I need some cool white paint job colors nothing that too much around 3 to 4 k on price samples welcome will consider other colors must have racing stripes please let me know
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/13 04:01:18
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So far it looks like it's going to be an awesome ride. I love classic cars myself. I just found out a friend of mine has a '63 Chevy Impala in original condition sitting in his garage that he'd be interested in selling. I'm already starting to drool thinking about it.
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/13 22:23:20
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okay so valves were still in line with rockers for lash was a simple carb adjustment for idle and cam idle to fix, no more clickty klax lol. motor still under warranty. so drive shaft in need to install shifter boot ,my blue tooth radio, speakers, pull back seat to install exhaust kit from magnaflow when it get ordered and sent. then have front end rechecked for alignment work just to be safe. I need help choosing paint job prefer white but other colors are open to look into.
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/17 14:30:21
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okay new 2.5 inch exhaust from magnaflow ordered and will be in on wed so install should be done by the weekend hopefully and the speed shop I had worked on motor is going to check out everything over before we get on the road for test run soon rewire and paint and body will be next keep the color schemes coming
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/21 14:30:37
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had to install a replacement fuse box the old glass setup rusted out so I bought a aftermarket one with two inline fuses too. ok do not try this unless you know your wiring on the car or have the racing knowledge and know how to wire from beginning. ford has 3 wires that have power to it fuse box 1. the hot wire to cig lighter 2. the instrument light fuse wires 3. the accessories wire first two got a inline fuse with proper fuse size the third got the new ato fuse box working better than I imagine but I will be ordering the painless 22 circuit part#20120 for my car to rewire the entire car period. nothing like a 12 volt battery to wake you up in morning
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/23 17:47:59
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ok so I ran into a issue with the exhaust kit had to rma this bad boy to magnaflow lifetime warranty it didn't line up like it should have so the tech had me measure the parts so the x pipe was off supposed to be 10.6 inches but was 13 inches wide from center, and the tail pipes were off supposed to 36 inches were 30 and 32 inches so I back on hold good news is radio installed can even get my phone calls with blu tooth
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/30 06:07:01
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ok new exhaust that was reordered is in everything checks out will post pics later also got a lead on some doors and a hood all oem to pick up today 4/30 this afternoon . hopefully I will have all I need for my car to be on the road again
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/04/30 23:01:23
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bill1024 I just had a great idea for you paint job. Since your car is white, put a NY Yankee logo on the hood and doors then do blue pinstripes all around. Now that would look great!!!
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/05/01 21:00:44
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new exhaust in a lot quitter and it fits like it should have this time magnaflow rma team rocks oem hood looks good but the doors the guy offered me junk
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Re: 1965 ford mustang help/and build log
2015/05/07 20:01:35
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okay car is on ground was road tested for shifting issues had some minor adjustments that I did to fix the shifter linkage, so now it will be off to the the mechanic to have the alignment rechecked with steering wheel and also toe in and out checked. then it driving fun while I save for body and paint I will post video of engine with new exhaust soon along with driving video too
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