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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/02 09:05:24 (permalink)
I have the SC with this cooler. Backplate is also supported and the card looks really bada$$ with the backplate and water cooled. I have the 1070
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/16 20:52:08 (permalink)
Since the fan in this kit has only two pins, I assume that its speed is controlled by the graphics card adjusting the voltage. I am interested in changing to a fan with a higher static pressure and lower noise, the noctua industrial fan.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCR5BA/ref=od_aui_detailpages01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
3.94 mmH20 vs 2.76 for the stock fan 
29.7 db vs 34.2 for the stock fan
 
Now this fan has a 4 pin connection but the graphic card only gives two wires to power the stock fan. Will this fan work since it is designed for PWM speed control, not voltage control?

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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/16 21:15:34 (permalink)
I think that would work great, but maybe connect it to the motherboard to have control. I am unaware of the graphics card ever changing the radiator fan speed, but might be wrong, as I have only connected both of my fans to the motherboard. I replaced the stock fan with a Fractal Design Venturi HP-12 PWM Black Case Fan FD-FAN-VENT-HP12-PWM-BK, which lowered the temp about 5°C using my fan curve, and it is much quieter. I made some earlier posts here about using SpeedFan which you might find interesting.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/16 21:23:10 (permalink)
The radiator fan if  attached to the kit will run at constant speed. The Noctura fan will work if you plug it into the kit but it also will run at constant speed. The fan on the board is variable and can be adjusted by Precision X OC. Don't know why the didn't allow the radiator fan to be adjustable? I have two Corsair fans in push pull on my radiator but I connected them to my fan controller NZXT Grid 2. You can connect them to a PWM on the motherboard. My mother board will not allow me to use Speed Fan on PWM.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/17 05:10:40 (permalink)
@Mike
So installing this water cooler allows you to run a quiet fan curve since most of the noise comes from the blower on the card, right?  Especially if this kit is used on a titan pascal which uses GDDR5x which runs cooler. Would using 2 fans in push/pull add anything besides noise? Since the max temps people are reporting with the stock fan are 53 to 63 deg C , then that is already way below thermal limits.
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Yes I read about your use of speed fan to slow the fan. Thank you for the clear explanation with pix. I am a more analog kind of guy-my case is a fractal design and has a three position fan speed switch - so I might just use that.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/17 05:27:44 (permalink)
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The fractal design fan you used
http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/casefans/venturi-series/venturi-hp-12-pwm
 
has a static pressure of 2.3 mm H20 which is less than the stock fan and a lower air flow 61.4 CFM vs 69 CFM for the stock fan, yet it cools better?
 

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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/17 07:43:22 (permalink)
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Since the fan in this kit has only two pins, I assume that its speed is controlled by the graphics card adjusting the voltage. I am interested in changing to a fan with a higher static pressure and lower noise, the noctua industrial fan.
 
 
3.94 mmH20 vs 2.76 for the stock fan 
29.7 db vs 34.2 for the stock fan
 
Now this fan has a 4 pin connection but the graphic card only gives two wires to power the stock fan. Will this fan work since it is designed for PWM speed control, not voltage control?




Hi bwanaa
 
So just to clarify, I've done a bunch of testing with this cooler and I can also confirm that the stock fan is a 2 pin fan that runs at fixed rpms. The fan itself is molexed into a 3 pin connection so you can easily replace it with any 3 pin case fan. Notice the thin wire that is next to the water tubes (first pic). That's the wire feeding the radiator fan and it will NOT fit a pwm fan. The stock fan is also quite loud at least to my ears.
I tested it in push, pull and push pull. In my case, pull is tiny better and push pull gives me a delta in temps of about 5 to 8C .
I am running a 3 pin case fan that came with my air 240 case in push connected to the gpu cooler (so running at fixed RPMs but its quiet) and a Corsair ML120 pro White in pull hooked up to the mobo (see second pic). This fan is pricey but I really like it.  I am using speedfan to control the PWM fan. My idle temps are mid 30s and load temps high 50s. They may not be ideal for this cooler in push/pull but I  doubt I can do better given that I'm using a somewhat tiny case. I hope this helps.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/17 10:34:20 (permalink)
thank you aymanstile for your pix and info. I am curious about why you had the fans hooked up to separate power sources. Would the NVIDIA card not supply enough current to drive two rad fans plus the blower? I guess the card is already at max TDP when overclocked so anything we can do to reduce the power draw from the card is a plus. Why not put both cards off the mobo with a plug splitter? I thought it was bad to have fans spinning at different pressures across a rad?
 
From what I read, a lot of people want to increase the max vddc and tdp on the card. I even read someone putting liquid metal across the resistor near the power plug. That adds a little juice. I would just tape a bit of aluminum foil there.
 
The card has a tdp of 250 w. The pcie slot will give 75w. That means the molex plugs will draw 175w. A combination of 6 plus 8 pin molex plugs should supply up to 300 w. So there should be enough power available if the bios can be adjusted to allow more VDDC.

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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/17 14:57:53 (permalink)
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thank you aymanstile for your pix and info. I am curious about why you had the fans hooked up to separate power sources. Would the NVIDIA card not supply enough current to drive two rad fans plus the blower? I guess the card is already at max TDP when overclocked so anything we can do to reduce the power draw from the card is a plus. Why not put both cards off the mobo with a plug splitter? I thought it was bad to have fans spinning at different pressures across a rad?
 
From what I read, a lot of people want to increase the max vddc and tdp on the card. I even read someone putting liquid metal across the resistor near the power plug. That adds a little juice. I would just tape a bit of aluminum foil there.
 
The card has a tdp of 250 w. The pcie slot will give 75w. That means the molex plugs will draw 175w. A combination of 6 plus 8 pin molex plugs should supply up to 300 w. So there should be enough power available if the bios can be adjusted to allow more VDDC.




Just a matter of preference really and to keep my setup as clean as possible without adding any additional wires or splitters. My goal was "silence" over anything and if the stock fan was silent then I would have kept it. The other thing was that I have 5 Corsair ML120s cooling the entire system and 1 Corsair 3 pin case fan so for my OCD's sake I really wanted to get an additional ML 120 but the difference in performance would have been extremely small if any. Also the PWM Corsair fan set up in pull, is sharing a pwm spot with another fan blowing air directly on the videocard so I also wanted to be able to control both based on the GPU temp as opposed to using an additional PWM spot on the mobo (which would have implied running a wire across the mobo ).
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/11/03 16:56:59 (permalink)
I'm interested in this product and I have a few questions. I hope someone can help me.
 
1. Will I need to install thermal pads on the VRMs? Are they supplied/pre-installed or do I need to buy my own? If the latter, what thickness?
2. Fan control is only available for the fan on the card which cools the VRMs. What's a safe speed to set them at? Does a custom fan curve still matter?
3. Can the back plate be reinstalled?
4. Is it logical to screw in the VRM cooling plate first (using the 4mm nuts) before installing the AIO?
5. What's the connector on the radiator fan?
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/11/16 09:57:15 (permalink)
Gusy I need your help.  I installed the hybrid cooler and it all seems to be working great.  As you may know the card's fans are setup to start running in my case (GTX1080SC) at around 60C.  With the cooler my temp never exceeds 45C so the fan basically never turns on to cool the Vram.
 
Is this ok, since before it turned on at around 60 or should I use Precision X to create a curve, if so, whats advised?
 
Thank you.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/11/16 22:30:44 (permalink)
That's exactly my concern. Haven't received mine yet but planning to set fan at 50%.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/11/17 03:02:23 (permalink)
Thanks im surprised no one has discussed this so far. I set a custom fan curve on the Precisoson X software. The gpu idles at just under 30c so I've started the curve there. Not sure if it's needed to cool the vrm or whatever else at that point but since I don't know the temps I rather be careful. I think the gpu temp only refers to the actual chip.

I couldn't find anything related to this specific subject else where.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/11/18 06:19:11 (permalink)
After a day or so, running the fan in auto mode which doesn't start them till 60C, I started to get random flashes of color/patterns on my display.  I manually turned the fan on and they immediately went away.  Sucks that with the kit the vrm/vram fan uses the same profile as the regular cooler.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/11/18 12:39:28 (permalink)
From what I gathered. Does that mean I can turn my superclocked 1080 into a hybrid?
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/11/18 12:51:52 (permalink)
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From what I gathered. Does that mean I can turn my superclocked 1080 into a hybrid?




Yep and you should.   I was having issues with somewhat high temps, the thermal pad stuff going around and not to mention the fans speed fluctuation.  Water cooling solved most of these and not that expensive. 
See link in the first page for the appropriate cooler. 
 
I also have the 1080 SC.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/11/20 19:12:14 (permalink)
yomny
After a day or so, running the fan in auto mode which doesn't start them till 60C, I started to get random flashes of color/patterns on my display.  I manually turned the fan on and they immediately went away.  Sucks that with the kit the vrm/vram fan uses the same profile as the regular cooler.




I've asked people about this and they all say they just leave it at stock. That's crazy! Since fan speed is directly proportional to GPU temp and GPU temp will never reach 60deg (unless you did something wrong or your AIO is broken), you will likely fry your board.
 
What fan speed did you set yours at?
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/11/21 04:57:28 (permalink)
I opened a supper ticket with evga and their response was simply that there's no need to worry or even apply the thermal tape mod. Simply run a more "aggressive" fan curve.

I don't feel comfortable not having some sort of air given there isn't a heat sink on the vrm to dissipate heat. I've set my fan to 20% from 0-31C(idle loads) and from 40C and on(which for me is under load) I've bumped them to 40-50% gradually.
Don't recall the exact look of my "custom" fan profile but I know I have three points of so.

Has been working perfect and temps steady even overclocked.

See evga response below.

"Hello,

I am sorry for any confusion on dealing with this issue.

Simply adjusting the fan curve to a more aggressive setting is more than enough to cool the VRM's properly.

There is no concern for extra thermal pads for your hybrid kit.

Please let us know if there is anything else we can assist you with in regard to your EVGA products by contacting support at support@evga.com or 888-881-3842 for further assistance.

Thank you,
EVGA"
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/11/25 06:30:44 (permalink)
Anyone replacing the radiator fan for something quieter with better flow?  At the moment this is the loudest fan I have and would like to upgrade it.  Currently looking at the commercial noctua 3pin 2k rpm, seems to flow better.
 
Are we sure this thing doesn't vary speeds, the fan or pump?  I was stressing the GPU yesterday using Firestrike stresstest and I could have sworn the fan was spinning faster.  At the very least I felt a lot hotter air coming our the rear of the radiator.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2017/02/10 11:31:49 (permalink)
Hello, I would need some information:
you can install the radiator horizontally?
the air flow is pushed into radiator?
 
Thanks
 
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2017/02/16 08:47:22 (permalink)
Ok folks , need some help/advise here.  Currently I'm using a Genome II from Deepcool -> http://www.deepcool.com/product/case/GENOME/index.shtm with 2x EVGA 1080's FEs.  I just recently bought the hybrid water coolers for them but i'm wondering if they will work in a SLI format as well as the case?  Haven't had a chance yet to mess with this, but wanted feed back to see if anyone has used these coolers in a SLI format and/or case style.  Tks in advance...

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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2017/02/25 04:26:43 (permalink)
As long as you have room for the radiators in your case it will make a great SLI setup.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2017/03/23 06:05:02 (permalink)
Installed Hybrid kit on a 1080 EVGA ...6181 model. Temps are lowered as expected, 27C idle low 40C gaming.  Only question I have is my 3 pin fan attached to radiator runs faster than necessary, imo thus making noise.  Not very much but is loudest in my rig.  Using EVGA precision program for fan control seems to only effects the blower.  Am I just not seeing a way to control the radiator fan while plugged into the hybrid kit?  Also if the radiator fan pin is disconnected from the hybrid kit and hooked into a separate fan controller will the pump continue to work as normal?
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2017/03/23 12:04:12 (permalink)
Will this fit on an EVGA 1080 Ti FE?
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2017/03/23 21:24:56 (permalink)
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Will this fit on an EVGA 1080 Ti FE?




Hello,
 
this Hybrid kit is not designed for compatibility with the GTX 1080 Ti. It will require Modification to use this kit with a GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition and is not recommended.
 
We will have a Hybrid kit releasing soon for the 1080 Ti and Titan X (pascal) which I would recommend waiting for as it requires no modification to use with the GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2017/03/23 21:27:47 (permalink)
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Will this fit on an EVGA 1080 Ti FE?


Yep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX0nQdCRE9Q
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2017/03/30 18:05:39 (permalink)
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Installed Hybrid kit on a 1080 EVGA ...6181 model. Temps are lowered as expected, 27C idle low 40C gaming.  Only question I have is my 3 pin fan attached to radiator runs faster than necessary, imo thus making noise.  Not very much but is loudest in my rig.  Using EVGA precision program for fan control seems to only effects the blower.  Am I just not seeing a way to control the radiator fan while plugged into the hybrid kit?  Also if the radiator fan pin is disconnected from the hybrid kit and hooked into a separate fan controller will the pump continue to work as normal?




There is no way to control the radiator fan. Suggest you just replace it with Noctua.
 
Yes  to the 2nd question.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2017/04/01 05:16:25 (permalink)
Does anyone know if the EVGA Hybrid kit fits the Asus Turbo GTX 1070??? I know it's not on the official compatible list (same with the Kraken G10 but it fits), so wondered if anyone has successfully installed the Cooler kit on the Turbo 1070, or knows for a fact if it will not fit... I've heard there might be a couple of minor differences between Turbo and FE cards but I don't know for sure...
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2017/05/28 18:56:56 (permalink)
Anyone else who replaced the rad fan experiencing fan "revving"?
 
I installed a Noctua Industrial NF12 (the black 3 pin one) and noticed that it would rev up and down uncontrollably. Re-installed the stock one and fan speed was constant.
 
I had to jerry rig a connection to my Alienware Graphics Amp which wasnt easy because that connector is tiny. Still prefer to use the connector on the kit.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2017/06/09 00:50:41 (permalink)
I noticed that the pump when the gpu is in full load is hot. If I remove the top cover I could see low noise or higher lifespan benefits?
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