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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/13 17:05:56 (permalink)
Just installed GTX hybrid for my zotac 1080 GTX and temps are 30-32c idle and 40-46c when playing 4k games . With the stock cooler i was getting 40-45c idle and 75-86c when playing. Very happy with this cooler!!! 
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/20 18:32:34 (permalink)
If I put this on founders edition will I be able to change the color of the LED's? Or are the lights inside green...
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/28 15:56:04 (permalink)
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If I put this on founders edition will I be able to change the color of the LED's? Or are the lights inside green...




The EVGA shroud LED's should be white, and I don't think you can change the color. But they are not green.
I'm awaiting my hybrid kit tomorrow (monday), so will hopefully get it installed on my FE 1080 on tuesday. Just got my Pro iFixIt toolkit, so I'm well prepared :D (awesome bit kit btw)
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/28 17:33:56 (permalink)
Yeah just got that kit too - very, very slick. Please take lots of pictures :)
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/29 07:27:47 (permalink)
Anybody thinking about replacing the stock 120mm fan ? I'm thinking if it's worth investing in a quieter fan given that the stock fan is not too loud but it would be nice to control its RPMs through the motherboard or something like that
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/29 07:48:19 (permalink)
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Anybody thinking about replacing the stock 120mm fan ? I'm thinking if it's worth investing in a quieter fan given that the stock fan is not too loud but it would be nice to control its RPMs through the motherboard or something like that


I might look into changing it to one of my other fans, should be easy to change it any time we want. I'll start with the supplied fan and see how quiet it is.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/29 07:53:09 (permalink)
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Anybody thinking about replacing the stock 120mm fan ? I'm thinking if it's worth investing in a quieter fan given that the stock fan is not too loud but it would be nice to control its RPMs through the motherboard or something like that


I might look into changing it to one of my other fans, should be easy to change it any time we want. I'll start with the supplied fan and see how quiet it is.


High pressure fan can be added / changed. 
 
You really want to have the GPU temps control the fan.  It would be much harder to automate this function

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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/29 07:59:59 (permalink)
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Anybody thinking about replacing the stock 120mm fan ? I'm thinking if it's worth investing in a quieter fan given that the stock fan is not too loud but it would be nice to control its RPMs through the motherboard or something like that


I might look into changing it to one of my other fans, should be easy to change it any time we want. I'll start with the supplied fan and see how quiet it is.


High pressure fan can be added / changed. 
 
You really want to have the GPU temps control the fan.  It would be much harder to automate this function




right but the stock fan has a 2 pin connection meaning that its not software controlled. It just runs at max RPMs. Precisionx only controls the blower fan. I could be wrong but i dont think the stock 120mm  fan is controlled by software.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/29 07:59:59 (permalink)
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You really want to have the GPU temps control the fan.  It would be much harder to automate this function




right but the stock fan has a 2 pin connection meaning that its not software controlled. It just runs at max RPMs. Precisionx only controls the blower fan. I could be wrong but i dont think the stock 120mm  fan is controlled by software.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/29 08:48:49 (permalink)
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Anybody thinking about replacing the stock 120mm fan ? I'm thinking if it's worth investing in a quieter fan given that the stock fan is not too loud but it would be nice to control its RPMs through the motherboard or something like that


I might look into changing it to one of my other fans, should be easy to change it any time we want. I'll start with the supplied fan and see how quiet it is.


High pressure fan can be added / changed. 
 
You really want to have the GPU temps control the fan.  It would be much harder to automate this function




right but the stock fan has a 2 pin connection meaning that its not software controlled. It just runs at max RPMs. Precisionx only controls the blower fan. I could be wrong but i dont think the stock 120mm  fan is controlled by software.


Four wire plug and they give you a two wire fan (crazy)  1 set pump & 1 set fan ?
 
 
Under Features -- Variable controlled fans allow dynamic fan speed based on GPU temperature, and the water cooling efficiency means very low noise fans.  http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=400-HY-5188-B1


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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/29 08:55:37 (permalink)
I connected the stock radiator fan to my motherboard and controlled it using SpeedFan. A 2 pin connector allows one to use dc speed control by percentage, but without any rpm information returned in SpeedFan. JayzTwoCents has a very good SpeedFan video:
How to set up SpeedFan - Free fan control software
 
I then replaced the stock fan with a Fractal Design Venturi HP-12 PWM Black Case Fan FD-FAN-VENT-HP12-PWM-BK. It is quieter and moves more air. I have 3 fans, including the radiator fan, controlled off of the GPU temp using SpeedFan.
 
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/29 09:02:54 (permalink)
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Anybody thinking about replacing the stock 120mm fan ? I'm thinking if it's worth investing in a quieter fan given that the stock fan is not too loud but it would be nice to control its RPMs through the motherboard or something like that


I might look into changing it to one of my other fans, should be easy to change it any time we want. I'll start with the supplied fan and see how quiet it is.


High pressure fan can be added / changed. 
 
You really want to have the GPU temps control the fan.  It would be much harder to automate this function




right but the stock fan has a 2 pin connection meaning that its not software controlled. It just runs at max RPMs. Precisionx only controls the blower fan. I could be wrong but i dont think the stock 120mm  fan is controlled by software.


Four wire plug and they give you a two wire fan (crazy)  1 set pump & 1 set fan ?
 
 
Under Features -- Variable controlled fans allow dynamic fan speed based on GPU temperature, and the water cooling efficiency means very low noise fans. 






the 2 x 4 wire plugs in the first picture are 1 for the pump and 1 for the blower fan. There is an additional 2 wire cable (as shown in second picture) that powers the 120mm fan on the radiator.  I may have to look at mine again but im pretty sure thats how its set up. You can easily confirm this by setting the fan in precisionx to 0 RPM and you will notice that the 120mm is still spinning at the same RPMs whether its idle or under load. 
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/29 10:50:44 (permalink)
Thanks for the feedback,
 
Still have to get my FE later this week - waiting for tracking info to arrive today. 
 
I'll bench it stock, then decide if I'll add a hybrid or put it in a semi-custom loop with my Swiftech H240X that is a AIO for my CPU, but is expandable

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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/29 16:57:04 (permalink)
I wonder how much power the pump and 120mm fan take from the already power constrained FE?
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/29 17:37:23 (permalink)
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Watch the JayzTwoCents video EVGA GTX 1080 Classified - Review and Comparison
 
He talks about the GTX 1080 power. In all my testing and reading I am unaware of any power constrained GTX 1080. In my post 3 before yours, I mentioned hooking up the radiator fan to my motherboard, but that was for fan control not power usage. It works great!
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/29 17:49:24 (permalink)
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Watch the JayzTwoCents video 
 
He talks about the GTX 1080 power. In all my testing and reading I am unaware of any power constrained GTX 1080. In my post 3 before yours, I mentioned hooking up the radiator fan to my motherboard, but that was for fan control not power usage. It works great!

Yeah sure, I'm just talking about when overclocking. Some one said they had to underclock the vram to get more core clock. But I could be wrong. I was really just wondering how much power the pump and radiator fan uses. I'm also going to hook mine up to the mobo, I'll pick up the cooler tomorrow (Tuesday) and get to work on making the switch. Looking so much forward to it!! :D
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/29 17:59:58 (permalink)
I think you will love it! I have my GTX 1080 Memory Clock at +400 in MSI Afterburner and am able to get a stable 2100 MHz GPU Clock when running the Unigine Heaven benchmark, and all that with low fan noise and very low temps. I can get the Memory Clock up to +800 before crashing, but don't find there is much performance benefit so have backed it off to +400. 
 
I thought it might be helpful to show the settings and results via images, so I have some here. In MSI Afterburner 4.3.0 Beta 4 (Download - Guru3D.com) the Voltage/Frequency curve editor can be activated with the <Ctrl> <F> keyboard shortcut. What has worked for me is to find the stable Core Clock increase by using the typical slider method. Then using the editor, I choose a voltage that I want to run at when at full load by clicking the little square above the voltage in the graph and dragging it up to a frequency I want, which will be displayed on the left side of the graph. When I apply the changes the higher voltages are flatlined at that frequency. The GPU will then run at that frequency most of the time when under full load, but might come down 1 or 2 steps (13 MHz each) over time. I understand that 1093 mV is the highest currently allowed on the GTX 1080, so I chose a lower voltage of 1050 mV (shows as 1049 mV in Afterburner) and a frequency of 2113 MHz. When I use a higher voltage such as 1081 mV, I get the same performance in the Unigine Heaven benchmark, but the clock speed fluctuates a bit. When I use 1050 mV I get a straight line for the clock speed at 2113 MHz, and after a few minutes it lowers to 2100 MHz and stays there, so it seems that GPU Boost 3.0 is happier (can software be happy) at that voltage on my card.
 
I came upon this idea by using the Scan Mode in EVGA Precision XOC (http://www.evga.com/precisionxoc/). I noticed that the higher voltages were able to be increased much more than the ones below 1.050 Volt or so, but this might vary with each GPU. So I bumped up my chosen voltage to the point the driver crashed and then lowered it a bit. I tried different voltages but am happiest with the current setting. There is some good information at GPU Boost 3.0: Finer-Grained Clockspeed Controls, and a video at 
GPUBoost 3.0 and Overclocking with the GTX 1080.
 
  
 
 
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/31 06:20:25 (permalink)
JD3206........
The other thing to mention is removing the screws (more like hex nuts?) that attach the cooler to board under the baseplate.  They also serve as the screw holes for the backplate and will need to be removed with a proper sized bit.  I was lucky enough to have a Kingston screw driver and the nuts were the same size as the bit holder for the screw driver bits.
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I hit a snag with this last night.  Does anyone know what size socket these screws require?  I have a small socket set but all of them were too big.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/31 06:22:15 (permalink)
4mm hex should do it
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/08/31 06:24:52 (permalink)
^^ Thank you.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/01 00:13:47 (permalink)
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I connected the stock radiator fan to my motherboard and controlled it using SpeedFan. A 2 pin connector allows one to use dc control, but without any rpm information. JayzTwoCents has a very good SpeedFan video:
How to set up SpeedFan - Free fan control software
 
I then replaced the stock fan with a Fractal Design Venturi HP-12 PWM Black Case Fan FD-FAN-VENT-HP12-PWM-BK. It is quieter and moves more air. I have 3 fans, including the radiator fan, controlled off of the GPU temp using SpeedFan.
 


Waiting for my 2 Hybrid kits from new egg. I also ordered a 2 pack of SP120 fans. I have 4 others in the case already. I would like to go push pull. I only have 2 PWM connections on my motherboard and would like to keep them solely for the CPU cooler. You mentioned that you use speed fan. I saw the Jayz video and tried speed fan but as far as I can see I can only control the PWM headers. Is there a way to control the other 3 pin fan headers using speed fan. I only saw setting for like 1-5 which I imagine are set speeds and will not adjust automatically with GPU temps.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/01 09:59:41 (permalink)
Hi Mike,
 
Here are some images of my setup. They show the main page, Advanced tab, Fans tab, Speeds tab, Fan Control tab, and the Add Temperature in Fan Control. How many fan headers do you have on your motherboard? How are they being displayed in Speed Fan? I would think that all the fan headers can be controlled, but I am not sure. It seems that it depends on how they are being found and displayed in Speed Fan. Please provide some images.
 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/01 10:12:28 (permalink)
Thanks for the Pics. What I am trying to figure out is if it is possible to set a curve on the 3 pin fans. You have your curve set to PWM 5. I would like to be able to set a curve on like lets say FAN 1 as Seen on the Configure page of your post. Those fans have values from 1-5 I believe. I assume that those values correlate to fan speeds. So I would like to be able to set fan speeds to GPU temp. Any one know if this is possible.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/01 10:52:17 (permalink)
Some of my attached images weren't showing, so I put them elsewhere and have finished the original post with links to those images, so please look at it. The main question I have is about what you are seeing in the Advanced tab. Speed Fan is a free program that works great for me, but as Jay said it takes some time to figure it out for a particular motherboard.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/01 11:22:56 (permalink)
In the Fan Control tab there is a drop down to the right of "Controlled speed". What is shown in that drop down? For me it is Pwm1 thru Pwm5, and each controls a fan header, but they are not named the same as what is printed on the motherboard. I tested each one to learn which header was being controlled. For me they are:
 
Pwm1 = CPU_FAN (controlled by Core 1 CPU temp)
Pwm2 = CPU_OPT (controlled by GPU temp)
Pwm3 = SYS_FAN2 (controlled by GPU temp)
Pwm4 = SYS_FAN3 (controlled by GPU temp)
Pwm5 = SYS_FAN1 (controlled by GPU temp)
 

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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/01 19:33:04 (permalink)
Thanks again for the pics. I realized I'm not able to do what I wanted with the 3 pin. Good news is after reviewing my mobo manual I found another PWM on my board hidden by my RAM. Last question do I need to start speed fan every time I reboot my PC because I have not seen a setting for it to start with Windows.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/01 19:54:18 (permalink)
I am happy you found the extra PWM! There is a nice video about starting SpeedFan on every boot, as there isn't a setting for that in the software. The only thing I don't do is set the delay time at all, as he shows at :55 in the video. It is slow to start anyway.
Tutorial: Auto-run SpeedFan on Startup - YouTube
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/02 01:10:40 (permalink)
I will receive my kit today for my EVGA GTX1080 SC ACX and have a question.
So, the fans are being temp controlled. For Founders Editions cards the two fans will always run and keep the card cool - I can imagine. 
BUT: on the ACX cards the fans are being turned off below 60°C - so, how will the kit work there? Do I have to flash another BIOS? Maybe the one for 08G-P4-5182-KR (1080 SC non-ACX)? I don't want to create a custom fan curve.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/02 02:44:42 (permalink)
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I will receive my kit today for my EVGA GTX1080 SC ACX and have a question.
So, the fans are being temp controlled. For Founders Editions cards the two fans will always run and keep the card cool - I can imagine. 
BUT: on the ACX cards the fans are being turned off below 60°C - so, how will the kit work there? Do I have to flash another BIOS? Maybe the one for 08G-P4-5182-KR (1080 SC non-ACX)? I don't want to create a custom fan curve.


Is the SC ACX even supported? But I bet your can create custom fan curves if you get it to fit, software can fix a lot.

I'm running push pull now on the radiator, been changing a lot and trying different combinations for fan set ups. Might be getting a $100 worth of corsair's new ML fan serie.
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Re: 1080/1070 Reference Hybrid AIO Kit Install Manual for P/N: 400-HY-5188-B1 2016/09/02 09:01:58 (permalink)
The Compatability tab at http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=400-HY-5188-B1 shows all the supported cards, and the 08G-P4-6183-KR EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 is listed. EVGA has excellent support, and if your card is registered on their website you get 24/7 premium support. I have used it a few times and it is great! Call 1-888-881-EVGA (3842) ang go through the 3 menus entering 1 at all of them, and then enter the serial number of your registered card. They can answer all your questions.
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