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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/05 23:43:27
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I was able to get a few solid runs of Firestrike with both my 1080 Tis clocking over 2100 Mhz (2101 Mhz to be exact). One card has a bit more room, but I haven't pushed it yet. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19756610 I have to tell you guys, I think you're really selling yourself short if you are using Precision XOC over Afterburner. I uninstalled Precision XOC today to try Afterburner out and after fooling around with the custom voltage curve I was able to go from a high clock of 2050 to over 2100. The software is much more stable as well. Highly recommend giving it a try if you haven't. I don't think I'm particularly stable over 2100 and will be dialing it down to 2050 for daily driving, but I'm thrilled with this result!
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/06 13:58:36
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I think i'm going to exchange mine and play the silicone lottery. This crashing at 1965 @ 1.093v is killing me!
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/06 20:17:41
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@seth That's all true indeed, but offset is still a little bit meaningful since it gives a glimpse of where the wall might be when better cooling comes to play. My good card does +165 without crashing and settles around 2025 but I was able to get to 2100 with the voltage curve before thermals limited my clock so I know with good water better clocks will be attainable. My 1080s both hit 2100 but played around 2050. With the hybrid it sits at 2136 with the same setting and was able to do 2160 for most gaming. Only heaven crashed it there.
It's crazy what we go through for almost immeasurable performance boost, but I guess there's a second hobby here which is finding your hardware's maximum potential.
This is a prime example of why telling us the offset is meaningless. +165 gets me 2076 in Heaven, and more like 1987 to 2050 in FireStrike, and something else in every other benchmark, while you've reported speeds of all the way up to 2136 MHz with the same setting. In other words, just telling us the offset doesn't tell us anything at all about how fast one's gpu is really able to run. The 2136 Mhz tells us something. The actual clockspeeds that one actually sees for most of a given benchmark run are what are truly meaningful and interesting. This is especially meaningless when people are comparing different cards. One guy with a 1080ti SC2 says "I can run mine at +165" to a guy whose 1080ti FE will run at +175. What actual information is being conveyed in this exchange? Nothing, really, because the offsets apply to different base clocks, which the other person may not know. Anyhow, I'll climb off my soapbox now.
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/07 18:47:07
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I'm a 1st time XOC user, using a FTW3. I set my GPU offset to 150 MHz, crash, 100, crash, 50, crash (in Heaven benchmark), did I get a garbage overclocking card or am I doing something really wrong? I put power limit at 117% and gpu temp target all the way up to 83 C, changing the voltage to 50%, 75%, 100% etc seemed to have zero impact on the crashing. Is setting my power limit higher causing instability? Setting to 50 MHz offset jumps me up to 2038 MHz in Heaven, btw, to give an idea of my baseline. My card never got past 58 C so the temps are more than fine. Help?
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/07 19:14:46
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@seth That's all true indeed, but offset is still a little bit meaningful since it gives a glimpse of where the wall might be when better cooling comes to play. My good card does +165 without crashing and settles around 2025 but I was able to get to 2100 with the voltage curve before thermals limited my clock so I know with good water better clocks will be attainable. My 1080s both hit 2100 but played around 2050. With the hybrid it sits at 2136 with the same setting and was able to do 2160 for most gaming. Only heaven crashed it there.
It's crazy what we go through for almost immeasurable performance boost, but I guess there's a second hobby here which is finding your hardware's maximum potential.
This is a prime example of why telling us the offset is meaningless. +165 gets me 2076 in Heaven, and more like 1987 to 2050 in FireStrike, and something else in every other benchmark, while you've reported speeds of all the way up to 2136 MHz with the same setting.
In other words, just telling us the offset doesn't tell us anything at all about how fast one's gpu is really able to run. The 2136 Mhz tells us something. The actual clockspeeds that one actually sees for most of a given benchmark run are what are truly meaningful and interesting.
This is especially meaningless when people are comparing different cards. One guy with a 1080ti SC2 says "I can run mine at +165" to a guy whose 1080ti FE will run at +175. What actual information is being conveyed in this exchange? Nothing, really, because the offsets apply to different base clocks, which the other person may not know.
Anyhow, I'll climb off my soapbox now.
i follow you and don't disagree totally, but even clock speed isn't a tell all. Some cards hit 2000 at .9V and some need 1.09V to do the same, so thermals are much higher on the second, and there's likely more headroom in the first card if you decide to delve into better cooling and tweaking the curve. The second GPU is probably not going to see much more. The offset is less important because you don't know what kind of boost clocks each card does at stock, and at what voltage/temps. I do have some confidence that a card that can run a +165 or +175 offset has more in it once you dig into the curve, while a card that can't do more than +100 or so probably won't see much more no matter what you do to it.
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/08 05:03:41
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i follow you and don't disagree totally, but even clock speed isn't a tell all. Some cards hit 2000 at .9V and some need 1.09V to do the same, so thermals are much higher on the second, and there's likely more headroom in the first card if you decide to delve into better cooling and tweaking the curve. The second GPU is probably not going to see much more.
The offset is less important because you don't know what kind of boost clocks each card does at stock, and at what voltage/temps. I do have some confidence that a card that can run a +165 or +175 offset has more in it once you dig into the curve, while a card that can't do more than +100 or so probably won't see much more no matter what you do to it.
I was running +175 core +100 memory before power limit became an issue that was causing my card to slow down from 2063-2076mhz down to 1911mhz. I use MSI Afterburner and unlocked the voltage slider and bumped it to +100 and that didn't change my core +175 at all... I still crash at +185 and +180 is hit or miss. The memory OC I was able to push to +300... beyond that results in benchmark score drops presumably due to memory errors. One thing I didn't really see since upping the voltage limit was the power limit issue I was having. Previously upping the memory much beyond +100 was causing the power limit slowdowns I was experiencing. Now I got a little more out of the card at least. Basically 2076mhz core 5805mhz memory is what I've been able to achieve with my card. Not sure how happy I should be but I feel pretty good about it. I think I did well in the lottery with the CPU (5.1ghz stable) and the GPU is at least within the norm at 2076mhz.
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/08 05:39:52
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Anyone here tried to put Kraken G10 on their FE?
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/08 06:28:36
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@TRClark911 Wow! You managed to get 5.1? Awesome!
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/08 06:42:10
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I was running +175 core +100 memory before power limit became an issue that was causing my card to slow down from 2063-2076mhz down to 1911mhz.
I use MSI Afterburner and unlocked the voltage slider and bumped it to +100 and that didn't change my core +175 at all... I still crash at +185 and +180 is hit or miss.
The memory OC I was able to push to +300... beyond that results in benchmark score drops presumably due to memory errors. One thing I didn't really see since upping the voltage limit was the power limit issue I was having. Previously upping the memory much beyond +100 was causing the power limit slowdowns I was experiencing. Now I got a little more out of the card at least.
Basically 2076mhz core 5805mhz memory is what I've been able to achieve with my card. Not sure how happy I should be but I feel pretty good about it. I think I did well in the lottery with the CPU (5.1ghz stable) and the GPU is at least within the norm at 2076mhz.
Have you tried running a custom voltage curve? If not there are plenty of tutorials on how to hit 2100 with a custom curve or I'm happy to walk you through the steps. If you're hitting 2076 with just the power sliders, I'm fairly positive you can hit 2100 (at least in benchmarks) with the voltage curve.
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/08 07:02:08
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@TRClark911 Wow! You managed to get 5.1? Awesome!
Yeah... I ran at 4.9ghz 1.27v for the last couple weeks and it's perfectly fine at that speed. Pushing it to 5.0ghz was giving me a BSOD at 1.34 so I left it alone. Saturday morning I was like "You know what, I wanna see what I can do with this" and went back at it. 5.0 took 1.37v for stability and surprisingly 5.1 looks pretty good at 1.39v. I read on a few OC websites that liquid cooling is good up to 1.4v so I think 5.1 is pretty much my limit but yeah, I'm there. Probably not gonna be my 24/7 speed I kinda like 4.9 a bit better for that but I did run it all day yesterday at 5.1 and ran multiple benchmarks and stress tests and had no crashes with a peak stress test temp of 85C. It was running in the 70's at load and idle was upper 20's. TheWizardMan
Have you tried running a custom voltage curve? If not there are plenty of tutorials on how to hit 2100 with a custom curve or I'm happy to walk you through the steps. If you're hitting 2076 with just the power sliders, I'm fairly positive you can hit 2100 (at least in benchmarks) with the voltage curve.
I haven't... this OCing is pretty new to me being my first build in 15+ years. I'm learning it best I can but would gladly listen to any tips and advice you have. Will PM you. Thanks!
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/08 17:01:55
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I played around with the voltage curve on my original 1080, but I'm no expert on it, and I probably forgot everything already and would have to re-learn it again. I was out all weekend so I didn't get a chance to do any playing around. At this point it's all just for fun, for the sake of learning, and to lengthen my e-peen, I mean my benchmark results, since the games I currently play the most don't even need any overclock at all with the 1080ti to far exceed the 60fps that my 4K monitor can do. One of the games I play the most hardly clocks above idle speeds to stay at 60fps.
TRClark911, if you're running benchmarks like Heaven just fine at 2076 MHz my view is that you've done quite well in the silicon lottery. While it's not a world record-beating speed, it's probably above average. I've definitely seen a lot of folks post who won't hit 2076. Wanting more seems like looking a gift horse in the mouth to me. I may still do the curve-tweaking thing just for the lulz, but I'm quite satisfied that I got a keeper with this card.
And I hear ya about hitting 5.1GHz on your 7700k but running it at 4.9GHz for daily use. I hit 4.4GHz with my 6900 when I first got it in my loop and was playing around with it, but 4.2GHz is so close to that, and runs with so much less voltage boosting and whatnot that it seemed like needless stress on the system for very little real gain. I highly doubt that you see any benefit at all going to 5.1GHz over 4.9GHz beyond adding .1mm to your e-peen.
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/08 17:53:51
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For those curious, these are the instructions I sent to TRClark911 regarding using a custom curve in Afterburner: First step is unlocking your voltage curve. There are some good tips on this online, so I won't go into it, but some essential reading is: Once you've unlocked your voltage curve and slider, you should watch this video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2g7DJ4S-2s) on how to use it (this video is linked in both of the first two links I provided). Alright, so they do a good job explaining how to get the voltage curve, but not a great job explaining how to OC with it. Basically, what you want to do is find the (1) the highest overclock you can obtain at the highest voltage 1.093 mV and (2) the lowest voltage at which you can obtain the stable overclock you are seeking. - For the first task, follow these steps:
- Make sure all the sliders are maxed out (your fan performance will depend on your cooling solution).
- Set the point that is 1.093 on the X-axis to the core clock you want (probably 2100 Mhz or thereabouts).
- Every point to the right of 1.093 should be at 2100 Mhz. You then want to smooth out the curve to the left of 1.093 mV. At first, I'd try a smooth linear curve straight down to intersect the base clock line at the last point.
- Apply your settings and run the benchmark of your choosing.
- If the benchmark runs smoothly, then you can redo steps 1-4, this time upping the core clock that corresponds with at 1.093 a bit (say to 2114 Mhz). If it failed go to step 6.
- If it fails then you're going to need to play with the voltage curve a bit. I found that have a larger drop between 1.093 mV and 1.081 mV (I think this is the next tick left of 1.093 mV, but I'm not in front of my PC) allowed me to remain stable. For instance, if 1.093 mV corresponds with 2100 Mhz then make 1.081 correspond with 2076 Mhz or lower. I think the reasoning here is that the core clock will drop down when I'm power throttling so I don't end up crashing.
- Accomplishing this task is basically the same as task 1. Run 1-4 at your desired overclock. Once you get to step 5, instead of increasing the core clock, you should decrease the voltage running at your desired overclock. You should keep decreasing the voltage until you are unstable. This will be your daily driver overclock. I would probably aim for an overclock that works at about 1.050 mV, since this will give you some overhead during intensive gaming sessions and should prevent power throttling.
Let me know if you need to see examples of my voltage curves. I don't have them in front of me right now cause I'm at work, but I'm happy to send them along. Also, let me know if any of this is confusing or doesn't make sense. Happy OCing!
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/08 19:23:34
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Mine isnt stable over 2ghz
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/09 10:07:32
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TRClark911, if you're running benchmarks like Heaven just fine at 2076 MHz my view is that you've done quite well in the silicon lottery. While it's not a world record-beating speed, it's probably above average. I've definitely seen a lot of folks post who won't hit 2076. Wanting more seems like looking a gift horse in the mouth to me. I may still do the curve-tweaking thing just for the lulz, but I'm quite satisfied that I got a keeper with this card.
And I hear ya about hitting 5.1GHz on your 7700k but running it at 4.9GHz for daily use. I hit 4.4GHz with my 6900 when I first got it in my loop and was playing around with it, but 4.2GHz is so close to that, and runs with so much less voltage boosting and whatnot that it seemed like needless stress on the system for very little real gain. I highly doubt that you see any benefit at all going to 5.1GHz over 4.9GHz beyond adding .1mm to your e-peen.
Hahah... yeah, definitely agree. 5.1 is strictly a benchmark OC. Thanks for the comment on the GPU. Now I guess I can feel good about how I did in the lottery with both the CPU and GPU. I'm gonna check out the voltage curve for the GPU when I get a chance... another busy week at work means maybe this weekend I'll have time. I've pushed my CPU to the limit and now I'm interested in seeing if 2100 with the GPU is possible... which I'm sure it is. TheWizardMan
For those curious, these are the instructions I sent to TRClark911 regarding using a custom curve in Afterburner:
Happy OCing!
Thanks! Will be in touch!
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/09 10:58:56
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I have a 1080 Ti SLI setup.
Each card would get about 1911 boost clock with no overclock. When individually overclocked each card would get about 2062 to 2088 with +150 offset but quickly come down to 2025 or so on load. With SLI and watercooling, I was only able to get a out 2025 with Precision X offset of 150. Anything trying to achieve 2050 would. Rash or come down to 2017-2025 or so. After using the Voltage curve method on MIS, I could get 2100 on one of the cards (SLI off) and 2050 completely stable and without downclocking ever whole gaming on SLI. I'm happy with that. When I try to go over 2050 on SLI, the system crashes. Temps on current settings at 2050 stay between 43-47.
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/09 11:15:41
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I have a 1080 Ti SLI setup.
Each card would get about 1911 boost clock with no overclock. When individually overclocked each card would get about 2062 to 2088 with +150 offset but quickly come down to 2025 or so on load. With SLI and watercooling, I was only able to get a out 2025 with Precision X offset of 150. Anything trying to achieve 2050 would. Rash or come down to 2017-2025 or so. After using the Voltage curve method on MIS, I could get 2100 on one of the cards (SLI off) and 2050 completely stable and without downclocking ever whole gaming on SLI. I'm happy with that. When I try to go over 2050 on SLI, the system crashes. Temps on current settings at 2050 stay between 43-47.
When you say "when I try to go over 2050 on SLI, the system crashes," do you mean the cards are set to SLI or you are clocking the cards together? You can run the cards in SLI with different clock speeds (though, you're really limited to your slowest clock). I was able to get my cards to 2100 each in SLI. My one card is definitely capable of at least 2114 but the other struggles at 2100. For daily gaming I've set both cards to 2050, so I know I'm stable. Can you post pics of your voltage curves so we can see exactly what you have going on in Afterburner?
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/09 19:00:13
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Mine isnt stable over 2ghz
Me too, my hybrid kit is on the way but i'm unsure if i'll install it on this card. I briefly got to 1999 @ 1.093 but then when the temperature got above 60 it crashed. So close, so sad.
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/11 03:20:02
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Both of my cards are stable @2050 without any voltage adjustments..... I will look at your tutorial and see if I can get to 2100 or more... That is, after I get the top card's higher temp figured out.
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/11 07:42:08
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Both of my cards are stable @2050 without any voltage adjustments..... I will look at your tutorial and see if I can get to 2100 or more... That is, after I get the top card's higher temp figured out.
Time to start using water :)
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/11 08:55:08
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Just got my Hybrid cooler installed. New to GPU overclocking, but have the Precision X installed. Is there a good read-up on what the settings mean and/or what people recommend setting each to? I am looking to OC to get some extra performance but strongly favor stability.
I understand that each card is different and there is some variance to how well each will OC.
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/11 09:16:37
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Just got my Hybrid cooler installed. New to GPU overclocking, but have the Precision X installed. Is there a good read-up on what the settings mean and/or what people recommend setting each to? I am looking to OC to get some extra performance but strongly favor stability.
I understand that each card is different and there is some variance to how well each will OC.
Thanks
What kind of card is it? SC or FE? My suggestion is to use afterburner and there are a bunch of tutorials on how to do it. But the basics for both Afterburner and Precision X are to max out all the sliders, adjust your core offset and figure out what your max core offset is. Start with +100 and run a benchmark. If it passes, move it to +150 and rerun. If that passes, I'd move to +175. And just keep increasing as long as you pass. Most people are crashing around 160-200, so at about 160 you'll want to decrease your increments. Some people have reported not being able to OC at all, so it will depend on your card. Once you find your max core offset you can start playing with memory to find the memory offset that gives you the best performance. One thing to keep in mind is that people seem to be getting better results with slightly lower OCs on this card. So the highest OC isn't necessarily the best performing. Take a look at my post above this one that talks about using custom voltage curves as well. There are some good resources linked there that you should read--especially the OP of the overclock.net official ti owner's thread.
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/11 15:30:09
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I cant get mine to be stable at +70 MHz core and +125 MHz Mem and i have a ftw3
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/11 15:31:24
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I think i'm going to exchange mine and play the silicone lottery. This crashing at 1965 @ 1.093v is killing me!
I really want to do the same, I cant mine to be stable at the mid to high 1900s
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/11 15:48:39
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/11 16:09:17
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TheWizardMan
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I picked up a second FE and ran some benches. One card is dragging the other down a bit but I seem to limit around +160 core and +325 mem offsets, not using any voltage curve or anything yet. More on the mem is stable but doesn't net better results. Both on air currently, and I'm going a full loop soon.
7700k @ 5.0ghz
Asus Strix z270g mATX
1080ti FE x2
FS - 29112 - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19878976?
FS Extreme - 21181 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12605570
FS Ultra - 13107 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12605676
TS - 15126 - http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1740357
You seem kind of low on the firestrike score. Not sure why.
Maybe because it's pretty irrelevant in 2017? lmao... I don't know tbh
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/11 16:14:30
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Maybe because it's pretty irrelevant in 2017? lmao... I don't know tbh
Lol, fair enough. I'm just confused why, with your hardware at the OCs you're claiming, you're not getting a bit more out of it.
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/11 16:49:17
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1080ti SC2 hybrid boosted to 1988 out of the box I maxed out the voltage and thermal limit and gave the card a 50mhz offset. Got a nice 2025mhz OC going. Don't feel like pushing it any further since I don't own any benchmarks to test for instability. But stable 2025 oc in all my games and it never gets past 50c on the GPU
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/11 17:24:48
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1080ti SC2 hybrid boosted to 1988 out of the box I maxed out the voltage and thermal limit and gave the card a 50mhz offset. Got a nice 2025mhz OC going. Don't feel like pushing it any further since I don't own any benchmarks to test for instability. But stable 2025 oc in all my games and it never gets past 50c on the GPU
You can download the trial of basically every benchmark for free.
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Re: 1080 TI FE Successful stable overclocks
2017/05/11 19:10:04
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TheWizardMan
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Both of my cards are stable @2050 without any voltage adjustments..... I will look at your tutorial and see if I can get to 2100 or more... That is, after I get the top card's higher temp figured out.
Time to start using water :)
I am on water now... first time for full custom loop but atm, GPU 1 gets to 70c underload (Furmark, Superstition, Firestrike) while GPU 2 is 45c. Not sure if I have bubbles trapped in block still or TIM job is not as good as it should be so I am gonna drain the system this weekend and check things out.
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