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Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate

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2010/06/07 17:50:30 (permalink)
It used to be 3.99GB usable for a couple months then this happen just now with the same settings.  I tried disabling HPET and still it does 1.99GB.  What is wrong with my PC or settings?
 


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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/07 18:55:55 (permalink)
    futuremark2

    It used to be 3.99GB usable for a couple months then this happen just now with the same settings.  I tried disabling HPET and still it does 1.99GB.  What is wrong with my PC or settings?
     


    I have the EXACT same issue - 6GB - Motherboard recognizes it as does Windows, but it shows 1.99GB available.
     
    Using Classified X58 SLI - Windows 7 x64 - ALL NEW / FRESH INSTALL OF EVERYTHING and problem since day one which was just 3 days ago.
     
    I've adjusted everything in the bios I can think of.
     
    I've upgraded every single driver to the latest driver from the Mobo and Video Card which is the EVGA 260 w/ 896 MB on it and I'm using supported Corsair Memory, have checked it's in the correct slots and have no other issues.
     
    I have looked everywhere and cannot find any "real" answers or anything I haven't already tried.
     
    If someone doesn't respond to our thread tonight I guess I'll just call tech support on the phone tomorrow when they open.  I really want to be able to use all 6GB of my memory obviously, otherwise I just would've purchased 2GB, lol.
     
    PLEASE SOMEONE HELP US!
     
    Thanks all!
     
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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/07 18:58:04 (permalink)
    There are many other active threads right now same prob. Scroll down the X58 forum directory (multiple pages) and read some of them:

    Disappearing Ram...

    6GB ( 3.99GB usable) HELP!

    3.99GB Usuable with 4.0GHz OC and Stock it shows full 6GB RAM

    3.99GB usable

    E758 All Ram Not Recognized Issue

    This is a very common prob right now.
    post edited by HalloweenWeed - 2010/06/07 19:02:09

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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/07 20:13:14 (permalink)
    This one is is a "Don't miss":

    Disappearing Ram

    Especially page 5

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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/07 20:15:34 (permalink)
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    ...If someone doesn't respond to our thread tonight I guess I'll just call tech support on the phone tomorrow when they open.  ...
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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/07 20:45:13 (permalink)
    Oh, here is the Blue-ribbon post by MoltenLava where he recommends sliding the RAM as you seat it:

    Re:i7 920D0 + Classy E759 = not all RAM there - Post #3

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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/07 21:04:54 (permalink)
    So I started by turning the pc off and touching the memory sticks and wiggling them a bit, now I'm back to 3.99GB usage instead of 1.99GB : )

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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/08 12:40:33 (permalink)
    futuremark2

    So I started by turning the pc off and touching the memory sticks and wiggling them a bit, now I'm back to 3.99GB usage instead of 1.99GB : )


    How much RAM are you showing in BIOS. If BIOS is showing less then 6GB then it's likely the board.

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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/08 16:03:53 (permalink)
    i had the same issue:

    turned out to be my CPU.HEAT.SINK... was too tight

    sure enough...
    once i loosened the screws just a bit...
    all was good..

    good luck


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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/08 19:38:51 (permalink)
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    futuremark2

    So I started by turning the pc off and touching the memory sticks and wiggling them a bit, now I'm back to 3.99GB usage instead of 1.99GB : )


    How much RAM are you showing in BIOS. If BIOS is showing less then 6GB then it's likely the board.


    Where can I look to see RAM size in the bios?  It's an X58 SLI.  It shows 6.00GB (3.99GB Usable) in Windows.

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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/08 20:10:59 (permalink)
    Make sure you have "msconfig->Boot->Advanced options->Maximum memory"  disabled because it used to cause the exact problem for me.
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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/08 20:11:25 (permalink)
    You have to hit pause at exactly the right time on the first boot screen. Hit any other key (except del unless you want to enter BIOS) to continue. Hit <ctl><alt><del> to reboot before Windows starts loading to try again.

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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/08 20:29:58 (permalink)
    It will tell you in BIOS under Standard BioS options i believe.
    Also under your ram options(very bottom) it should tell you the amout of ram you have plus how much is being remapped.


    I dont have x58 BIOS accessible right now but this is where it tells you on a p55 BIOS but i think they are in the same spot..



     
     
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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/08 22:11:50 (permalink)

    Peace upon those who follow guidance
    i think this issue from BIOS programing not from our hardware
    sorry for my bad english
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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/08 22:14:09 (permalink)
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    Peace upon those who follow guidance
    i think this issue from BIOS programing not from our hardware
    sorry for my bad english



    Incorrect. Its not the BIOS programming, its the setup. Plenty of people are running all their RAM just fine.
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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/08 23:45:03 (permalink)
    The Russian

    Make sure you have "msconfig->Boot->Advanced options->Maximum memory"  disabled because it used to cause the exact problem for me.


    I did that, and still it says 3.99GB usable

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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/09 02:38:57 (permalink)
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    Peace upon those who follow guidance
    i think this issue from BIOS programing not from our hardware
    sorry for my bad english



    Incorrect. Its not the BIOS programming, its the setup. Plenty of people are running all their RAM just fine.


    Plenty of people are running all their

    you mean some people have this problem and other haven't on same type of ram and Frequency
    on one time i restart my computer it read my size of ram 8GB and i have 6GB this in CPU-Z 1.54
    but windows read it 4GB usable from 6GB total

    EDIT one more thing when i set ram volt to 1.65 BIOS say it 1.71!!
    post edited by Darkmaster06 - 2010/06/09 08:21:37
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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/09 02:45:24 (permalink)
    Changing HPET mode from 32bit to 64bit in the power options in Bios fixed it for me.
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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/09 08:43:00 (permalink)
    Darkmaster06 there has been a variety of different problems found resulting from people's fixes of their 'not all memory useable' problem:

    Some have found that their connectors were not working proper (not necessarily the connector defect) or they just didn't plug the memory in all the way the previous attempt.

    Some have found that BIOS settings needed a change.

    Some have found that Windows settings needed a change.

    Some have found a defective motherboard.

    Others have found bad memory sticks.

    It's also possible for the CPU failure to cause this problem.
    post edited by HalloweenWeed - 2010/06/09 08:46:03

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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/09 15:21:44 (permalink)
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    futuremark2

    It used to be 3.99GB usable for a couple months then this happen just now with the same settings.  I tried disabling HPET and still it does 1.99GB.  What is wrong with my PC or settings?
     


    I have the EXACT same issue - 6GB - Motherboard recognizes it as does Windows, but it shows 1.99GB available.
     
    Using Classified X58 SLI - Windows 7 x64 - ALL NEW / FRESH INSTALL OF EVERYTHING and problem since day one which was just 3 days ago.
     
    I've adjusted everything in the bios I can think of.
     
    I've upgraded every single driver to the latest driver from the Mobo and Video Card which is the EVGA 260 w/ 896 MB on it and I'm using supported Corsair Memory, have checked it's in the correct slots and have no other issues.
     
    I have looked everywhere and cannot find any "real" answers or anything I haven't already tried.
     
    If someone doesn't respond to our thread tonight I guess I'll just call tech support on the phone tomorrow when they open.  I really want to be able to use all 6GB of my memory obviously, otherwise I just would've purchased 2GB, lol.
     
    PLEASE SOMEONE HELP US!
     
    Thanks all!
     
    --Jason


    Okay,
     
    Now I've changed absolutely "NO SETTINGS" (I have actually, many times, but am now back to my original settings because nothing else worked) and now all of a sudden it is saying I have 3.99GB Available instead of 1.99GB Available, so I guess this is better, but the fact that I did nothing at all to make this happen concerns me and the fact that it seems as if almost EVERYONE has this problem (Okay, that's exxaggerating but there sure are a LOT of people) and I haven't seen ONE PERSON SAY "FOR SURE" WHAT OR EVEN "IF" THEY'VE "FIXED" THE PROBLEM.
     
    Just to let everyone know, and to compare as I'm curious what other's are using that are having this issue, I want to let everyone know what my system is made up of.
     
    EVGA X58 SLI
    Intel i7 950
    6GB Corsair Dominator (2GB x 3) TR3X6G1600C8D
    EVGA 260 SLI Video Card W/ 896 MB Ram
    2 - 1TB WD Hard Drives using the JMicron Raid for 0-Stripe
    Windows 7 x64
     
    All of this is a BRAND NEW BUILD - So it's ALL CLEAN/FRESH.
     
    Other stuff doesn't really matter I don't suppose, with this particular problem.
     
    Also, I have seen a lot of people talking about bad sockets with bad pins/bent pins, resetting their CPU, resetting their memory (I've done this too, BTW) etc, etc, but here's my question.
     
    If Windows is recognizing the 6GB (Or whatever YOUR amount of memory is) but is saying 1.99GB or 3.99GB Available (And I've noticed it seems EVERYONE HAS ONE OR THE OTHER AVAILABLE - THERE ARE NO DIFFERING AMOUNTS AVAILABLE) then since it recognizes the 6GB Physical Memory, HOW could it be anything "bad" or not seated properly, bent pins, etc, etc?  There can't be anything PHYSICALLY wrong, right?  Or it wouldn't recognize the 6GB'S I have even though it's not using all of it anyway.
     
    Does anyone have any success stories with anything they've tried who has a similar setup to mine?
     
    I'm also not even TRYING to overclock anything at this point because I don't feel it's appropriate until the system is stable and working as it should.  I'm not experiencing any other problems/issues at all, but this 1.99GB available from the build a few weeks ago until today, all by itself, going to 3.99GB available without me doing anything at all except maybe rebooting after a software install or something is driving me crazy and I REALLY need some help as do we all!
     
    Thanks for listening everyone.  I don't post in forums too often and I'm sorry so many people are having this problem as I "thought" I was buying basically the best mobo/processor/memory/video card money could buy at the time I bought it (I've had the parts for a few months before building due to family health issues) and I just can't believe so many people have this problem yet with all these people having this problem and it obviously NOT being an isolated incident, I've seen not ONE "fix" for anyone or by anyone.
     
    If anyone has any advice I'd really like to hear it, especially why everyone keeps taking their CPU out and putting it back in and memory out and in, etc, etc, and I'm curious as to "WHY" if your Windows is already showing the memory is THERE and just not usable and HOW (very few people have said this fixed it) this could've possibly fixed the problem.
     
    I actually own a computer store, have been in business since 1994, am A+ and MCSE Certified, and that "fix" makes absolutely NO sense to me, yet out of desperation, even I have tried it, but by replacing the parts with the same models, which did nothing except cause me to have to sell the other parts as open box at a reduced price on my shelves!
     
    Sorry for the long post, I know I'm long winded, but I'm just so upset about this, for everyone, because I can't believe EVGA hasn't released ANY Information or even seemed to acknowledge the problem which is obviously affecting so many people!
     
    Also, forgot to mention, I am using the latest bios that just came out a few days ago and it made no difference at all, although, if anyone would care to take the time in looking at my configuration and actually knows this bios, I'd LOVE to hear what all my settings should be, lol, as you may think I should know with my certifications and all, I've never seen a mobo with so many settings and haven't changed ANYTHING except the voltage from auto to 1.65 for the DIMM setting because it's the only thing that I "knew for sure" was wrong and I've literally left everything else as default because I don't know what hardly anything means!  So again, if anyone could/would take the time to help a fellow in trouble here get the best settings possible for my components, I'd SO GREATLY APPRECIATE IT! :)
     
    Thanks all, and I hope we all get a fix soon!
     
    I'm going to call EVGA Support right now and will report what they say but I'm not expecting much because nobody else has reported anything from them, but I will let you know everything they say.
     
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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/09 16:09:06 (permalink)
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    and I haven't seen ONE PERSON SAY "FOR SURE" WHAT OR EVEN "IF" THEY'VE "FIXED" THE PROBLEM

    [...]

    and I just can't believe so many people have this problem yet with all these people having this problem and it obviously NOT being an isolated incident, I've seen not ONE "fix" for anyone or by anyone.


    15 solutions, and I didn't even include the ones that have their mobo in RMA:

    grd003

    Like everyone else here, I too had the Disappearing Ram problem, which were shown as missing during boot. And, hot or cold, I could not run the ram at its highest rated speed even with retarded timings. CPU was always at 4.3GHz (bios SZ21), with only 6GB of 1600MHz Mushkin Redlines.
     
    One day I got angry--really pissed-off. So I grabbed the CPU heatsink and shook it round and round in an effort to ensure all 1366 bumps (not actually pins, are they?) were seated. (this is not recommended for obvious reasons, since you would have to be lucky not to do more damage than good.)
     
    Then I removed the three ram sticks and re-installed them with particularly hard downward pressure--but also _with_ significant side-to-side motion. (of course you could wreck things this way.)
     
    But those two mechanical actions fixed my Disappearing Ram problem. And they would then run at their top rated speed. Unfortunately I don't know which of the two was the actual fix.
     
    And, surprisingly, I was able to add another 6GB for a total of 12GB--BUT--Geil Ultra, i.e., Mixed Brands! Mushkin and Geil. 1650MHz, 7-7-7-24. Been running perfectly for six months.


    Alucard666

    When it happened to me it was due to a bad stick of ram that happened as a result of a bios flash to the newer 44 and 49 bios'. I would choose an older bio and rma the ram


    fanboy

    I had this issue with the OCZ Gold only showing 4Gb in Windows and E-Leet .. i ran it aday or two like that as it was very stable and not a rebooting mess the the G-Skill was .. now i decide to pull all the ram out and switch sockets as to reinstall them and this time i made sure to keep them even going down in the slot (side to side) and pushed the h e l l out of them as to leave an inprint of the pcb in my fingers and it's now shows 6Gb running Triple Channel and has been cold booted more than once and still working great and that all i did.

    I am thinking it's the ram slots myself as they are just to tight and it could of been my issue with the G-Skill also as it was getting odd memory errors but it was showing 6Gb Triple Channel.. it crashed after post sound or before windows or while loading desktop but would game like a champ.. you guys try what i did and see if it works.


    hashiee

    Just to let you know I had this problem before and corrected it by shifting my cpu.  After reading this thread I went and tried to lose memory total on two different boards (both x58 760) and two different cpu's (w3520, w3540) and was able to lose memory total  by shifting the cpu's around. If you take a look there is a little play in the cpu socket and just enough to give you a problem. On one of my boards it was very difficult to lose any memory but was still able to duplicate the problem. So if you haven't tried to re-seat the cpu, try it it and as others had suggested over tightening can cause a contact problem also.  Also check to see that all the pins in the socket are not bent, very easy to with the design of it.
     
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    EnochRoot

    In my case, I found a combination of issues.  Bent pins on the CPU socket and 2 dead sticks of ram out of 6.  I had to RMA the ram twice, RMA the motherboard once, and now I'm able to detect 12GB.  But even with the bent pins, I could detect 3 slots or 6GB of RAM.  There was no indication of a pin issue until all 6 slots were occupied.

    To be frank, the leafy socket architecture of the i7 sucks.  The RAM fault tolerance and testing sucks.  I miss my old socket A athlon design.  You stick it in and you can put a brick on it with some toothpaste and it ran.

    In any case, just keep in mind that if your VTT and DIMM voltage doesn't correct the issue, start ripping it apart.  Check the cpu pins and test each RAM module (in the second socket away from the cpu) to validate it's not dead.


    fdieu0087

    Ok, I just reverted back to bios SZ21 and all is back to normal.  As soon as I reboot the bios was showing 9gb instead of the 3gb with the latest bios.

    So for anyone who's having problems and pulling their hair out, just revert back to an older bios (one that you know works).  I wish EVGA would come forward and address this issue.  From the rising number of posts regarding this issue, they should at the very least provide a simple troubleshooting guide or update the bios changelog to reflect current issues.  Would have saved me a couple hours as I surely would not have updated the bios had I known about this earlier.

    Maybe we should compile a list of bios' that do not suffer from ram disappearing.


    fdieu0087

    Yes, this is a permanent fix..at least for me it is.  I'm sure if you went back to an older bios that you had everything running smoothly on it would be a viable solution.  If you still having issues after reverting, then I suggest testing each stick of ram one by one.  No way to really tell if there's an issue with the board unless EVGA comes out and says so.


    saxton

    I updated my BIOS the other day for the first time in 6 months or so. put my setting right, and didn't think anything of it. The next day I noticed a lot of disk thrashing when I started playing WoW and noticed my memory was being used. I couldn't understand what was taking 6 GB of memory. I always had a couple of gigs left even when playing WoW. As I am taking a close look tonight, I see that I only have 2 GB available out of the 6 GB. It wasn't until I found this out that I started troubleshooting the issue. I plan on going back to an older BIOS and seeing if that fixes the issue as it didn't crop up until I upgraded. Tooooo much of a coincidence if you ask me.
     
    I'll post my findings...
    Sax
     
    Update... So, in the wee hours of the morning, I downloaded an older BIOS and flashed it from within Windows 7 using the flash tool. After a reboot and reconfiguration of my drive settings, I was able to boot back into Windows and voila, 6 GB of memory detected AND available.  So yes, in my opinion the latest BIOS breaks something and the full amount of memory does not appear as useable to Windows. After I downgraded, I logged into WoW and no more disk thrashing because of low memory errors. I have not flashed back to the current release to see if the issue returns. I've got a raid tonight and don't want to be missing out because of this issue. :P
     
    EVGA, prettly please with sugar on top, look into this deeper!


    Full Metal Folder

    Hello
    I had the same issue  with my OS finding 6 gb but only 3.99 usable.
    Then i notice E-LEET was showing my ram running only on two chanels, i removed my ram and inspected it, and found a piece of hair
    in the memory contacts lol.

    That was my problem, so make sure the ram sockets and ram contacts are clean.
    The other problem i have is that my ram wont run at 1333, it goes to 1060 on XMP profile or any other way i try to set it.
    If i change it to 1333 manually it wont boot. I tried my dual channel 2000mhz viper and it works up to 19++mhz CPU@ 4.0GHZ

    X58 LE
    920D0
    1333 Viper 9-9-9-24-1T


    johnksss

    posted this in another thread...but it appears to be the memory socket on the motherboard. i do have the dissappearing ram from time to time. and it only seems to happen on the 760/761 boards for me. i found that on both boards..i would have to wiggle the ram around in it's socket (number 5) then very carefully put the fan back on. then it was fine. i would rma yet again..but this board can boot to windows at 230+ bclk or 4.8 ghz...so i have been reluctant to send it in....


    GhostImage

    >>>

      One more thing That I found out just couple of days ago. For some reason  I happened to change one setting In control panel.
    system tools/ System configuration/ Boot tab/ check Maximum memory. 12gb
    Boots fine all that jazz all 12 gb present on a POST However In control panel /system shows 12gb installed 9.499 useable. (sounds familiar Right :) )
    Same in resources managment - it showed all 12gb present but 2.5 gb reserved for Hardware reserved. ( I have memory low gap set to 2.5 (two GTX 285 1gb + gts 250 512mb)
    Went to bios, set MLG to auto Reboot, All 12gb present at POST,
    In system and Resources Management 12gb installed 9.99 usable, and 2gb reserved for Hardware.
    To be honest I got confused for a while. I started thinking Is my memory acting up now. Am i loosing my mind. Ran Memtest again No red, on 8 passes.
    Finaly I unchecked that stupid box in Boot Tab. And all Ram is there. System 12gb installed and RM shows 11109 mb available (OS always reserves 900-1.2 gb for itself)
    I have no Idea what this MLow Gap feature is for. (reserved for PCI devices) If you got 1videocard with 1gb of ram, with this feature on auto it will reserve 1gb of your ram for it, Two GPUs - 2gb In system feature in OS you will see 4.99 usable and 3.99 usable accordingly.
          So again just to make it clear: go to Control Panel/Administrative Tools/System Configuration/Boot tab/Advanced options/ uncheck maximum memory box.   Apply, reboot. You should see 12gb or 6gb installed in CP/System.
    As for MLG in bios I set It manually to the combined amount of GPU ram. So Tri SLI should be set to 3gb Sli to 2gb, etc.
    I hope it was of help




    xspectrev2

    I had posted on the same topic a few days back, and finally found out what the problem was. The x58 sli le (my motherboard) doesnt support certain types of ram, and the patriot viper @1333Mhz happened to be one of those. So no matter what settings I changed, it would still only have 3.99gb usable out of 6gb. Went back to tiger, swapped them out for a corsair platinum and they booted first attempt with all memory usable :). Btw Tiger does offer a 14day return policy on everything, they might charge a restocking fee though, mine was like 4$.


    luckyluke

    Well, i think i resolved the problem.
    I disabled HPET MODE and voila!


    McLaren__F1

    Issue Resolved. What i did was downgrade back to BIOS 64 and it shows the full 6GB when i OC  to 4.0 GHz.

    Thanks for all the Replies


    ytmwang

    sorry I don't have any useful solutions, but I just wanted to throw my voice in the mix. My x58 SLI LE suffers from the same problem. Since purchasing it, I've returned and replaced it once already, both memory and motherboard. The Corsair memory I have definitely isn't the issue. It seems to be the motherboard. At stock, I usually have to start the system up, turn it off, and then turn it back on again in order to get all 6 gigs to be recognized. I've tried updated the BIOS to the latest version and of course memtest86+ showed that all sticks were normal. At least I'm able to get to the point where the system will recognize the 6 gigs. *sigh*



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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/09 18:35:21 (permalink)
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    jwevans

    and I haven't seen ONE PERSON SAY "FOR SURE" WHAT OR EVEN "IF" THEY'VE "FIXED" THE PROBLEM

    [...]

    and I just can't believe so many people have this problem yet with all these people having this problem and it obviously NOT being an isolated incident, I've seen not ONE "fix" for anyone or by anyone.


    15 solutions, and I didn't even include the ones that have their mobo in RMA:

    grd003

    Like everyone else here, I too had the Disappearing Ram problem, which were shown as missing during boot. And, hot or cold, I could not run the ram at its highest rated speed even with retarded timings. CPU was always at 4.3GHz (bios SZ21), with only 6GB of 1600MHz Mushkin Redlines.

    One day I got angry--really pissed-off. So I grabbed the CPU heatsink and shook it round and round in an effort to ensure all 1366 bumps (not actually pins, are they?) were seated. (this is not recommended for obvious reasons, since you would have to be lucky not to do more damage than good.)

    Then I removed the three ram sticks and re-installed them with particularly hard downward pressure--but also _with_ significant side-to-side motion. (of course you could wreck things this way.)

    But those two mechanical actions fixed my Disappearing Ram problem. And they would then run at their top rated speed. Unfortunately I don't know which of the two was the actual fix.

    And, surprisingly, I was able to add another 6GB for a total of 12GB--BUT--Geil Ultra, i.e., Mixed Brands! Mushkin and Geil. 1650MHz, 7-7-7-24. Been running perfectly for six months.


    Alucard666

    When it happened to me it was due to a bad stick of ram that happened as a result of a bios flash to the newer 44 and 49 bios'. I would choose an older bio and rma the ram


    fanboy

    I had this issue with the OCZ Gold only showing 4Gb in Windows and E-Leet .. i ran it aday or two like that as it was very stable and not a rebooting mess the the G-Skill was .. now i decide to pull all the ram out and switch sockets as to reinstall them and this time i made sure to keep them even going down in the slot (side to side) and pushed the h e l l out of them as to leave an inprint of the pcb in my fingers and it's now shows 6Gb running Triple Channel and has been cold booted more than once and still working great and that all i did.

    I am thinking it's the ram slots myself as they are just to tight and it could of been my issue with the G-Skill also as it was getting odd memory errors but it was showing 6Gb Triple Channel.. it crashed after post sound or before windows or while loading desktop but would game like a champ.. you guys try what i did and see if it works.


    hashiee

    Just to let you know I had this problem before and corrected it by shifting my cpu.  After reading this thread I went and tried to lose memory total on two different boards (both x58 760) and two different cpu's (w3520, w3540) and was able to lose memory total  by shifting the cpu's around. If you take a look there is a little play in the cpu socket and just enough to give you a problem. On one of my boards it was very difficult to lose any memory but was still able to duplicate the problem. So if you haven't tried to re-seat the cpu, try it it and as others had suggested over tightening can cause a contact problem also.  Also check to see that all the pins in the socket are not bent, very easy to with the design of it.

    Bios E760 - 43


    EnochRoot

    In my case, I found a combination of issues.  Bent pins on the CPU socket and 2 dead sticks of ram out of 6.  I had to RMA the ram twice, RMA the motherboard once, and now I'm able to detect 12GB.  But even with the bent pins, I could detect 3 slots or 6GB of RAM.  There was no indication of a pin issue until all 6 slots were occupied.

    To be frank, the leafy socket architecture of the i7 sucks.  The RAM fault tolerance and testing sucks.  I miss my old socket A athlon design.  You stick it in and you can put a brick on it with some toothpaste and it ran.

    In any case, just keep in mind that if your VTT and DIMM voltage doesn't correct the issue, start ripping it apart.  Check the cpu pins and test each RAM module (in the second socket away from the cpu) to validate it's not dead.


    fdieu0087

    Ok, I just reverted back to bios SZ21 and all is back to normal.  As soon as I reboot the bios was showing 9gb instead of the 3gb with the latest bios.

    So for anyone who's having problems and pulling their hair out, just revert back to an older bios (one that you know works).  I wish EVGA would come forward and address this issue.  From the rising number of posts regarding this issue, they should at the very least provide a simple troubleshooting guide or update the bios changelog to reflect current issues.  Would have saved me a couple hours as I surely would not have updated the bios had I known about this earlier.

    Maybe we should compile a list of bios' that do not suffer from ram disappearing.


    fdieu0087

    Yes, this is a permanent fix..at least for me it is.  I'm sure if you went back to an older bios that you had everything running smoothly on it would be a viable solution.  If you still having issues after reverting, then I suggest testing each stick of ram one by one.  No way to really tell if there's an issue with the board unless EVGA comes out and says so.


    saxton

    I updated my BIOS the other day for the first time in 6 months or so. put my setting right, and didn't think anything of it. The next day I noticed a lot of disk thrashing when I started playing WoW and noticed my memory was being used. I couldn't understand what was taking 6 GB of memory. I always had a couple of gigs left even when playing WoW. As I am taking a close look tonight, I see that I only have 2 GB available out of the 6 GB. It wasn't until I found this out that I started troubleshooting the issue. I plan on going back to an older BIOS and seeing if that fixes the issue as it didn't crop up until I upgraded. Tooooo much of a coincidence if you ask me.

    I'll post my findings...
    Sax

    Update... So, in the wee hours of the morning, I downloaded an older BIOS and flashed it from within Windows 7 using the flash tool. After a reboot and reconfiguration of my drive settings, I was able to boot back into Windows and voila, 6 GB of memory detected AND available.  So yes, in my opinion the latest BIOS breaks something and the full amount of memory does not appear as useable to Windows. After I downgraded, I logged into WoW and no more disk thrashing because of low memory errors. I have not flashed back to the current release to see if the issue returns. I've got a raid tonight and don't want to be missing out because of this issue. :P

    EVGA, prettly please with sugar on top, look into this deeper!


    Full Metal Folder

    Hello
    I had the same issue  with my OS finding 6 gb but only 3.99 usable.
    Then i notice E-LEET was showing my ram running only on two chanels, i removed my ram and inspected it, and found a piece of hair
    in the memory contacts lol.

    That was my problem, so make sure the ram sockets and ram contacts are clean.
    The other problem i have is that my ram wont run at 1333, it goes to 1060 on XMP profile or any other way i try to set it.
    If i change it to 1333 manually it wont boot. I tried my dual channel 2000mhz viper and it works up to 19++mhz CPU@ 4.0GHZ

    X58 LE
    920D0
    1333 Viper 9-9-9-24-1T


    johnksss

    posted this in another thread...but it appears to be the memory socket on the motherboard. i do have the dissappearing ram from time to time. and it only seems to happen on the 760/761 boards for me. i found that on both boards..i would have to wiggle the ram around in it's socket (number 5) then very carefully put the fan back on. then it was fine. i would rma yet again..but this board can boot to windows at 230+ bclk or 4.8 ghz...so i have been reluctant to send it in....


    GhostImage

    >>>

    One more thing That I found out just couple of days ago. For some reason  I happened to change one setting In control panel.
    system tools/ System configuration/ Boot tab/ check Maximum memory. 12gb
    Boots fine all that jazz all 12 gb present on a POST However In control panel /system shows 12gb installed 9.499 useable. (sounds familiar Right :) )
    Same in resources managment - it showed all 12gb present but 2.5 gb reserved for Hardware reserved. ( I have memory low gap set to 2.5 (two GTX 285 1gb + gts 250 512mb)
    Went to bios, set MLG to auto Reboot, All 12gb present at POST,
    In system and Resources Management 12gb installed 9.99 usable, and 2gb reserved for Hardware.
    To be honest I got confused for a while. I started thinking Is my memory acting up now. Am i loosing my mind. Ran Memtest again No red, on 8 passes.
    Finaly I unchecked that stupid box in Boot Tab. And all Ram is there. System 12gb installed and RM shows 11109 mb available (OS always reserves 900-1.2 gb for itself)
    I have no Idea what this MLow Gap feature is for. (reserved for PCI devices) If you got 1videocard with 1gb of ram, with this feature on auto it will reserve 1gb of your ram for it, Two GPUs - 2gb In system feature in OS you will see 4.99 usable and 3.99 usable accordingly.
         So again just to make it clear: go to Control Panel/Administrative Tools/System Configuration/Boot tab/Advanced options/ uncheck maximum memory box.   Apply, reboot. You should see 12gb or 6gb installed in CP/System.
    As for MLG in bios I set It manually to the combined amount of GPU ram. So Tri SLI should be set to 3gb Sli to 2gb, etc.
    I hope it was of help




    xspectrev2

    I had posted on the same topic a few days back, and finally found out what the problem was. The x58 sli le (my motherboard) doesnt support certain types of ram, and the patriot viper @1333Mhz happened to be one of those. So no matter what settings I changed, it would still only have 3.99gb usable out of 6gb. Went back to tiger, swapped them out for a corsair platinum and they booted first attempt with all memory usable :). Btw Tiger does offer a 14day return policy on everything, they might charge a restocking fee though, mine was like 4$.


    luckyluke

    Well, i think i resolved the problem.
    I disabled HPET MODE and voila!


    McLaren__F1

    Issue Resolved. What i did was downgrade back to BIOS 64 and it shows the full 6GB when i OC  to 4.0 GHz.

    Thanks for all the Replies


    ytmwang

    sorry I don't have any useful solutions, but I just wanted to throw my voice in the mix. My x58 SLI LE suffers from the same problem. Since purchasing it, I've returned and replaced it once already, both memory and motherboard. The Corsair memory I have definitely isn't the issue. It seems to be the motherboard. At stock, I usually have to start the system up, turn it off, and then turn it back on again in order to get all 6 gigs to be recognized. I've tried updated the BIOS to the latest version and of course memtest86+ showed that all sticks were normal. At least I'm able to get to the point where the system will recognize the 6 gigs. *sigh*




    Hello,


    First I want to say THANK YOU for helping me and others.  Obviously nobody is getting paid for their time and I personally believe everybody's time, whether you are a Doctor/Lawyer or a Ditch Digger, or a PC Store Owner who obviously doesn't communicate well, as what I meant to say was there isn't "one single fix" and the "fixes" are VERY weird to say the least (Wiggling around, unplugging, plugging back in so hard you leave indentions on your hand, etc, etc) and so now I would like to ask your help.


    I really do appreciate your time and was wondering if you'd try to help me get my problem fixed.


    I have a few new things to report.

    First, I reported last that I was up to 3.99GB usable, but when I rebooted, sure enough, it went back down to 1.99GB usable again.


    I did notice something in the BIOS that I should've noticed a LONG TIME AGO and that is that the BIOS reports 2GB of RAM except when it was saying 3.99GB Usable in Windows I saw it say 4GB (Listed in MB of course) and that CHANGE is what caught my attention and caused me to notice this.

    Since I own a computer store and have parts on hand, I've already replaced everything but the mobo as I truly don't think it's bad, but I am now left without any options.


    I THINK the next step is to ask someone like yourself for help with bios version to use and bios settings to use as I think bios settings is the next thing to try.


    Dumb question, but I honestly don't know the answer to this or how to find out.  When I flashed my bios before, I don't know what I selected but it did flash/work and I believe the date is 5/12/2010 as the release date and a lot of the posts you quoted stated that the one thing I have NOT tried as of yet is going back to an OLD bios instead of trying the NEWEST (Newer normally means bug fixes so I thought, on my own before reading of course, THAT was the way to go, but I think now I may be wrong.) but when I go do download one, I have to pick X58 SLI 759 or 760 and I just don't know and don't know how/where to look to find out and don't know if the bios for each is different and if it matters anyway.


    So anyway, I was wondering if you could help with that first, then recommend WHICH bios to download/flash, and since I've listed EXACTLY which items I have installed and their model numbers, if you could help me with the proper settings to use for everything since there are SO MANY TO PICK FROM ON EVERY SCREEN!


    I will GLADLY pay you for your time as again, I believe your time is very valuable and I want to show my appreciation for your help to me and everyone else.  As I mentioned before, I NEVER post on forums asking for help and I feel awkward doing so because "I" have done tech support for 15 years and "I" am always the one with all the answers and helping people, yet I always charge of course, lol, as it IS my business and how I make my living, so again, I'm not quite sure of proper etiquette here and mean no offense and apologize for my long posts too as I know I'm quite verbose, but I'm just so frustrated and am at a loss, so I guess I'll shut up now and politely just ask for your help.


    Since it's a personal case, and if you're willing and have the time, should we do it through IM, or can I call you, or what/how (If you're interested and willing and have the time of course - I'm not assuming that you will help - so no offense) would you prefer to communicate fastest/easiest with me?  IM is an option too, but I guess that would only work when I'm booted up obviously.  If you're up for a phone call, I'd REALLY appreciate it as you seem to be a true expert and I am just so frustrated with this and am at such a loss I just don't know where to go next as I've tried LITERALLY everything in all the posts you've quoted me to help me, including the few I didn't want to like pushing, bending, and loosening/moving the CPU/Heat Sink around (Which did cause the bios to make me enter it stating the CPU had been reseated the next time I booted up although I cannot remember the exact message) and I've rebooted about 100 times (Not exxaggerating here) and cannot get it in the bios or windows to go back to the 4GB in BIOS - It stays at 2GB and only went to 4GB, on its own by the way, that one or two times, which encouraged me, but still isn't the full 6GB'S and I don't see how the BIOS does NOT recognize the 6GB'S but Windows and ELEET DOES!


    Also, ELEET DOES recognize all 3 channels, Voltage set properly, and seems to recognize everything else properly, so I can't quit scratching my head as to HOW/WHY "EVERYTHING" recognizes I have 6GB'S of memory, including Windows, but will only let me use 1.99GB (And why such an arbitrary number, even when it was 3.99 GB?) and now of course, why the BIOS is not recognizing but just 2GB of it other than those few times.


    Anyway, I'm repeating myself now and have written a book and am sorry for that.


    If you are willing and have the time to help, I'd appreciate it SO MUCH.


    I just don't know which BIOS version to install and when I do find/pick one, which settings to use on each screen and each option to "hopefully" get this problem fixed as I have literally tried EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'VE POSTED/QUOTED and that's what I've been doing ever since I got your last message.


    So again, THANK YOU for your help, not just to me, but to everybody as I looked at your profile and it seems as though you help a TON of people and I want to thank you for ALL OF US as it seems you've also been SUCCESSFUL at fixing a lot of people's issues and if it weren't for people like you, a lot of people like me and the others on here would be lost!


    Thanks again!


    --Jason 
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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/09 19:48:23 (permalink)
    Though I could really use the money, I have most of that stuff all in notes in text files, it's just a quick matter of finding them and copy-paste the right portions. I can't charge for that. Well here's the thing, I'll start with some background so you can understand the BIOS revisions:

    EVGA came out with BIOS 43 Jan 13 for Gulftown CPUS. The BIOS covered older CPUs as well, but ppls W/920s had probs.
    Another BIOS (44) was issued very soon after, perhaps to fix the flawed 43. Ppls still had probs. BIOS' rolled out every couple of weeks so it seemed.
    Perhaps all the BIOS updates this year have been in order to support the newer CPUs, or to fix the flaws introduced when doing so, up until 71.

    Ppls have said when they went from 64 to 70 it fixed their memory problems. But I recommend you use this tryed-and-true version:

    EVGA X58 Classified (E760/E761/E769) - S61J BIOS Released

    I don't know your exact mobo model number, but since you said classy that BIOS covers them all I believe. That is the BIOS ShockTheMonkey recommends too. Also update to this draft: I doubt that S61J will fix your prob, may not be better for your RAM than 44, but it may fix other performance and OC probs for you.
    That would be the first thing to try. Do you need directions on how to flash BIOS? Personally I like the USB key method the best, but it is also the hardest to do, for myself as well. I like it best bc it gives you the oppurtunity to save your prev revision before flashing, and that's the only reason. For you I suggest you use the ISO and CD method, it is much easier, and there is no need for you to save your old version, as it is easily findable on this forum.


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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/06/09 20:12:48 (permalink)
    I've flashed the bios MANY times already and know how, but thanks for offering.

    I'll download/install (flash) the bios with what you recommended right now.

    Thanks!

    As for the money, if you don't want to accept money for helping me personally here, at least look at my web-site and if you have any interest at all (Since you can work when you want, from home, on your own time/terms, and I can explain how it works, but since it's dropshipping, you basically take the money in up front into YOUR PayPal account, then after the order is placed from the appropriate distributor of ours, we split the profit and you send me my part of the money, so there is no chance of you or the customer getting ripped off and I am the only one taking the chance, but I'm a good judge of character and you've already proven your character ASSETS to me simply by helping me HERE!) let me know!

    I will flash the BIOS, but I have NO IDEA which settings to set and have the feeling you know the BEST settings on EVERY SINGLE PAGE/OPTION for every single bios setting, and would REALLY APPRECIATE you helping me get the bios set up OPTIMALLY which I do NOT know how to do since I don't know what MOST of the things mean!

    So I'll get on that now, and that will give you a bit of time to either look at the web-site (I won't bug you about it - just an offer - you let me know if you have interest and want to know/learn more about the opportunity) and decide how best to help me/communicate with me what I should do next.

    One question now though - You mention you doubt it will fix/help the memory problem, so knowing I've tried pretty much everything else including the "not so healthy" things like jerking stuff around, do you have ANY IDEAS, SUGGESTIONS, ETC about THAT since it's my only real problem?  Even though having an OPTIMIZED BIOS is really important to me, too! :)

    If we can't get the memory fixed, what do I do?

    I just have SERIOUS DOUBTS I have a bad motherboard and since I've already replaced the CPU and Memory I know that's not it either, and to go through all the trouble and hassle of sending this mobo back, replacing it which is so time consuming and I have so very little time right now (I literally had these parts set aside, no kidding here, since NOVEMBER, and just got around to finally being able to build it last week!) I just KNOW it's not a bad mobo and think I'll have the EXACT SAME RESULTS as remember, I have owned and operated 14 computer and cellular phone stores, my first one opening in 1994 and have built, repaired, and worked on/upgraded/torn apart and everything in between literally THOUSANDS of PC'S and started with my COCO, Commodore 64, TRS-80, then FINALLY my first PC which was a Magnavox 286, then building my first 386 in 1992 or so and would like to think I can trust my feelings and on this one, I just have that feeling that I do NOT have a bad MOBO, but I obviously could be wrong as I admit since my business has grown and I have opened cellular phone stores and now this web-site, I've transitioned more into business management and have been pretty hands-off of computers other than "using them" for a few years, so I'm not nearly as familiar with these NEW components and quite frankly, this was the first computer "I PERSONALLY" built with SATA, lol!  I remember the MFM/RLL days before IDE!  Showing my time in the business a bit.  I actually got started VERY EARLY though, ran a BBS in the early 90's when I was only 12 years old and just turned 30, so I'm not "old" just "old school" in a lot of ways.

    So again, while I want to trust my instincts that I don't have any bad parts, I again have to stress that I am so UNFAMILIAR with NEW stuff (Especially the newest of the new and best of the best which is what I bought) that I suppose I could be wrong, but again, I just don't think so.
    What do YOU THINK?  Knowing what I've tried, what I'm going to try that you've already said you doubt will fix it, and knowing that just a few random times, TODAY and TODAY ONLY, and not for about 100 reboots since, have I gotten anything other than 1.99 Usable except for those 2 or 3 times I got 3.99GB usable and believe it or not it made a big difference in performance that was actually noticable to me!  It also increased my scores to 7.6 for everything but the video card which was 7.3 and then the hard drives which were only 5.9 which I thought would be higher since I'm using SATA and RAID 0-STRIPING I actually thought it'd be a bit higher.  There's not much faster, other than SCSI on RAID I suppose, but whatever, I'm doing what I always do.... Rambling :)

    Thanks again, John.  I'm going to flash the bios RIGHT NOW then check back to see how you want to communicate with me on setting the BIOS up the MOST OPTIMAL WAY since I have no idea what to set and HATE to just leave most things as default simply because I don't know any better!

    Talk to you soon!

    --J
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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/08/05 13:26:11 (permalink)
    [size=4 font="times new roman"]This is my own personal 6GB installed but only 1.99 usable story that lead to my FIX!

    I have been running an E758-A1 since they first released. Since that initial build I have still been using the same ram [G.Skill Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ]@1.5v. Recently my wife was complaining about computer slow down and actually having to wait for windows operations to start or finish. This raised a red flag for me because the system is running a RAID 0 setup with 3 drives [HD502HJx3]. So I stepped away from the current build I'm working on and started trouble-shooting my wife's computer. My first thoughts were perhaps because she loves her widgets and addons that she was actually slowing down the Core i7 920. So I checked task manager and the cores were bearely moving, BUT thats when I noticed the RAM usage was sky high and it also listed only 2GB. I then proceded over to the Control Panel/System & Security/System and seen windows was all confused. It listed 6GB installed but only (1.99) usable. Very strange indeed!

    I then jumped onto these forums and started reading about this relatively massive headache about RAM disappearing or being unusable. I read about the check your cpu pins!? check your RAM seating!? reinstall your cpu and or RAM!? If none of that works cram the RAM into the slots so hard that you risk breaking them, your motherboard and or your hand, lol. I was totally shaking my head at this point, semi laughing in "AWW" over this crazy issue. I'm thinking to myself, will this ever be fixed.

    Moving on... Windows says the RAM is all there but not usable, ...OK! Lets see what happens out of windows. Reboot, but boot off the CD-Rom wtih the latest Memtest +86 v4.1

    Memtest also shows 3 sticks installed BUT only shows 2GB readable/usable. Very odd indeed! OK time to start at square 1.
    (before going further I feel its necessary to say I have the latest BIOS update of v74)

    A) I tried the reseat cpu, check pins and reinsert all memory sticks into their slots again for correct seating. NONE OF THIS WORKED!! (I tried them 1 by 1). OK, now lets try something that actually makes sense.

    1) Boot into BIOS load defaults [except make cdrom 1st boot device] and pull all RAM but 1, leaving that stick in the 2nd slot [slot 1] going away from the CPU. On this MB that slot is green, on the newer E758-A1 that slot is grey. Insert Memtest v4.1 into cdrom and reboot.
     
    2) Check to see that memtest sees the stick and will run testing on it. If so shutdown and pull the good!? stick out and replace it with another stick. Be sure to place your sticks in a way that you don't get them confused which is which.
     
    3) Boot back into memtest making sure it sees the new stick and will run tests on it. Exit and replace the good stick with your last stick.

    4) Reboot into memtest and make sure memtest sees the stick and will run tests on it.

    5) The above will ensure whether or not memtest sees the ram and that the ram is OK.

    In my scenario, all sticks passed with flying colors. So I advanced to stage 2

    6) Place 2 sticks into the MB in the proper slots [slots 1 & 3] and reboot into memtest making sure it sees them all and will run tests.

    In my scenario memtest could see 2 sticks and also registered 4GB available. WE HAVE PROGRESS!! 

    I then shut down and put in the 3rd stick, rebooted back into memtest and it could not only see the RAM but it also ran ALL tests with flying colors. 

    7) We know Memtest sees all ram and now shows the true 6GB available. Lets start tweaking our BIOS back to normal [ 1 setting at a time] !!!!!!!!

    8) Load up your BIOS and change 1 setting!! NO MORE!! Save and exit. Reboot back into Memtest and check that all sticks are present and the true amount (6GB in my scenario) is usable. If all sticks are present and memtest sees it all then change [1] more setting, NO MORE!! save and exit!!

    Keep doing the above 1 setting at a time and rebooting into memtest to make sure that setting didn't mess up your RAM. If it does mess up your RAM then reload into bios change the setting back to default and then save and exit. Reboot back into memtest to make sure all sticks are listed at the bottom and that at the top of memtest the true amount is still shown. If everything looks good, load back into the BIOS and change 1 more setting but NOT the setting that made you lose your RAM. Change a different one this time and save/exit/reboot/memtest/etc. 

    9) If at any point you lose your RAM in memtest and load back into BIOS and change the bad setting back to default, save, and exit and reboot back into memtest and your RAM isn't back to normal then I would reload defaults (except cdrom for auto booting memtest), save and exit. Starting all over but avoiding that setting that made you start back at square 1.

    The above is what fixed my issue in under 30 minutes, which I find amazing because after reading the forums this issue sounded massive, however not massive enough for EVGA to write up their own fix.

    I personally think bent cpu pins, bad ram seating, bad cpu seating is a fundamental error that should be checked, but for an experienced modder/builder it shouldnt be the issue because those should have been right the first time around.

    If windows sees the ram then it is more then likely seated properly. Which is why I started checking outside the windows environment. Memtest not only allows you to see which sticks are installed in which slot but also how much RAM is actually usable. Using Memtest alone should greatly speed up trial/error testing for this issue. Loading defaults in the BIOS is a GREAT way to remedy the vaste majority of basic BIOS issues (that is unless you updated to a new BIOS because then it could actually be the BIOS).

    Always start with what you know to be true and work from there, changing "things" 1 at a time and rechecking. This is a basic method in many industries, science specifically because testing is done in a very thorough, controlled way.

    I know the above is LONG, but it is also informative and did show I went through the same trials as many others and could feel your pain. That flustration and pain is why I actually logged into the forums and decided to write this up, with hopes that if it helps even 1 person then it was worth it.  I am actually in the middle of building a brand new super rig when this issue arose, so my irritation set in early because it was keeping me from my true project.


    Summary info of the rig this happened to:
    MB: EVGA E758-A1
    RAM: G.Skill Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ @ 9/9/9/24, 1.5v, 1600Mhz
    CPU: Core i7 920 @ 2.8Ghz
    OS: Windows 7 64Bit Enterprise Edition
    FIX: Load BIOS defaults, trial/error/check/testing with Memtest x86+ v4.1, alter BIOS 1 setting at a time/save/exit/reboot, recheck in Memtest, rinse repeat. 
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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2010/08/07 22:46:56 (permalink)
    ?

    I may of just fixed my prob and boy was it kinda easy!

    All i did was remove all the ram. And then install 1 stick at a time.. boot into bios. Setup the ram timings, save and reboot. Boot into windows to verify that it sees the 2GBs of ram installed.

    Then i turned off the PC. Pulled the power plug from the P/S. Hit the power button a few times and waited till the little blue light was off on the LED near the ram. Then inserted the next stick of ram in slot 3.  Then repeated..

    So basicly installed the first stick in slot 1.. power off fully. Insert the next stick in slot 3 repeat then install the last stick in slot 5.

    Booted into windows and for the first time ever i see 6GBs installed insted of 6GB (3.99GB usable).

    :)

    Gona go see if this holds after a few power ups from a cold boot.

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    Re:Problem 6.00GB = 1.99GB usable? Windows 7 x64 Ultimate 2011/02/19 15:49:01 (permalink)
    It sounds like there are a few different issues that people are seeing with this problem.  Some people are having problems with their RAM being detected at all and some are seeing it all but a portion is marked as unusable.  I fall into the second category.  I have 6x1GB (2 are currently in another system awaiting an RMA on its own RAM) on my E759.  I have never had any issues with RAM not being detected since building my system, whether under XP x64 or Win7 x64.  I had been running S22D with no issues.  I had been downloading the new BIOS releases periodically, but never got around to installing them.  Earlier this month I decided to finally update the BIOS.  I downloaded the newest version (77 from 11/01/2010) and installed it as I always do.

    Recently I noticed memory issues.  Windows was telling me that I was low on memory and should close programs.  It was alerting that certain programs were using lots of memory and should be closed.  These were usually Firefox and Desktop Window Manager.  With lots of tabs open, Firefox could be using over 100MB, but DWM was usually only around 10MB.  Neither number seemed too crazy, and even a few hundred MB shouldn't be an issue with a 4GB system.  I assumed there was some issue with this month's Windows patches, though I hadn't noticed anything on my work laptop or heard anyone else complaining about it.

    I was reading a random forum thread where someone was asking about their WEI score, so I opened mine up because I couldn't remember the exact details.  It said that it had detected changes and needed to recalculate.  After doing so, I had a memory score of 5.5, when it was previously above 7.  It was then that I noticed Windows was showing "4GB (1.99GB usable)" and a search led me to this thread and reminded me of the recent BIOS update.

    Based on what I read here, I decided to try out the different BIOS versions to see if I could narrow it down.  I downloaded all the BIOS versions between the S22D I had been running and the new 77 that I had upgraded to.  S22D, 44, 49, 51, 59, 64, 73, 74, and 77.  I went from 77 down to 44 and I was back to just "4GB" available.  I rebooted and went to 49 - still 4GB available.  51 - same.  59 - same.  64 - same. 73 - same.  The download link for 74 is mislabeled as 77 also, so I originally missed that.  After 73, I went to 77 and I was back to "4GB (1.99GB usable)" in Windows.  I then saw 74, so I tried that - back to 4GB available.

    Twice I upgraded to 77 and "4GB (1.99GB usable)" appeared.  Twice I downgraded to a different version, and it went back to having all 4GB available.  No other settings were changed.  While on 77, I tried messing with any BIOS settings that looked different or that I saw recommended here (like HPET).  The ones I tried did not affect the issue at all.  Two different times, upgrading to 77 caused the problem and downgrading away from it fixed the problem.  I'm just sticking at 74 for now.  I was fine without "Adds IOH Clock Skew, tWL and tREF options to BIOS" before, so I'm sure I'll survive without those features now.
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