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I posted a thread just like this one in the past when I had my i7 920. I was able to somewhat fix it by lowering the RAM settings from 1600 to 1333, but even that isn't a good fix. I'm just about read to pull my hair out, this is completely frustrating. What's more, I've tried just about everything to try and fix this issue but to no avail! Here are my specs: EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR LGA 1366 Motherboard CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1600C8D Intel i7 980x @3.33 Processor
EVGA GTX 260 Video Card
Rosewill BRONZE RBR1000-M Power Supply
Here is what I've tried so far to fix the problem:
1) RMA the RAM sticks.
2) Replace the motherboard (with the same model) 3) Changed the CPU from an i7 920 to an i7 980x (this was more for an upgrade but it did also help to find a solution) 4) Upgraded the BIOS (currently at 70 BETA) 5) Downgraded the BIOS to a much earlier revision and upgraded again. 6) Tinkered with the voltages. 7) Reseated the CPU and cooler. 8) Loosened the mounting bracket. 9) Tried both SmallFTT and Blend tests on Prime95. SmallFTT does not give an error, Blend does. 10) Tried the newest Memtest, hundreds among hundreds of errors. 11) Tried my friend's G-Skill RAM and gave him my Dominators. He got 6GB all showing on his E758, I still had 3,99 usable.
Here is what I somewhat found to possibly be a key to finding out the issue:
1) Having 1 stick in the first gray DIMM slot will not allow the PC to boot no matter what stick it is.
I know what you might be thinking, if Memtest and the blend test both showed errors than it HAS to be the RAM. But if that was the case, my friend would have had the same issue when he used my RAM. So now the question is, is it the CPU or the motherboard? Or does my hardware just not work together well?(I doubt this). I'm at a complete loss and am in need of help. If it's the motherboard, what are the odds of having two motherboards do the same exact thing to me?
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/05/31 16:26:24
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If your trying for 1600 with the corsair domenators, make sure you set your DimV at 1.65 and your Vtt about +150, +/-25 ( it took me +250 ) if your at stock 133.3 you will need a 2:12, and at 160 clocks you will need a 2:10, at 200 clocks you can use a 2:8, but if your using anything but 2:8 you will need Turbo performance feature to be off, your memory is going to need to be in the slots pictured, but inspect them with a light to make sure you do not have bent pinns or connectors, you probably should inspect your cpu socket as well, and If I were you I would try it with the stock cooler, to eliminate the posability of an unevenely applied, or shorted cooler, if your still haveing issues remove the MB from the case to eliminate the posability of a shorted or improper standoff. Also note difrent windows versions have difrent Max memory configs.  note colors will verry based on model,
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/05/31 17:08:00
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Just about the only thing you said there that I haven't done was turn Turbo Mode off, which I just did and still getting 3.99GB usable. If it is indeed faulty hardware, I wouldn't know which of the hardware is causing the issue.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/05/31 17:36:03
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Look for one called Torbo performance, not turbo mode they are difrent and in difrent places in the bios. Turbo mode adds a multaplier to the Chip at certin times. while Turbo performance adds two deviders to the first core on the 980 under optimum conditions. and locks mem devider to 2:8
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/05/31 18:03:41
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Look for one called Torbo performance, not turbo mode they are difrent and in difrent places in the bios. Turbo mode adds a multaplier to the Chip at certin times. while Turbo performance adds two deviders to the first core on the 980 under optimum conditions. and locks mem devider to 2:8
I'm sorry, that's actually what I meant to say. What I meant was Turbo Performance is always disabled but I disabled Turbo Mode as well to see. Today some new problems are arising as well, I seem to be blue screening with the 01A code. Is it so much to ask to get a computer working right? :( Now I feel like I need to RMA the CPU, Motherboard and RAM together.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 00:17:53
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So I've been reading that this happens a lot with x58 boards. Now I don't know if it's just x58 boards in general or EVGA boards. More specifically, maybe the LE motherboards. I don't know, but I do know that it's frustrating as all Hell and it hasn't been fixed. I was suggested by an Intel rep and a Corsair rep to just reinstall Windows, but I am pessimistic that it would do anything. I'm more worried that I replace all the parts and STILL nothing works...What then?
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 00:36:46
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If bios is only showing 4GB of memory then there's no point in reinstalling windows.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 09:03:05
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So I've been reading that this happens a lot with x58 boards. Now I don't know if it's just x58 boards in general or EVGA boards. More specifically, maybe the LE motherboards. I don't know, but I do know that it's frustrating as all Hell and it hasn't been fixed. I was suggested by an Intel rep and a Corsair rep to just reinstall Windows, but I am pessimistic that it would do anything. I'm more worried that I replace all the parts and STILL nothing works...What then?
Don't bother reinstalling Windows. It's obviously a mobo (LE?)/ram issue considering it's happening to multiple people. (Myself included). Once I get to 150ish BCLK my usable RAM goes from 12 to 9.99. Once I hit 180 my usable gets to 3.99. I'm afraid to go past that.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 10:17:08
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i had the same dreaded "3.99 GB USABLE" issue. after determining slot#1 was bad- evga replaced my X58 LE. received my replacement last week and all 6gb recognized in bios- everything is back to normal. though your situation seems to defy logic- did i read correctly that you replaced the mobo, cpu AND ram? and your still having same issue? thats crazy man. just by the nature of the system not posting with one stick of ram in slot#1 for each stick would tell me that slot#1 is bad. that was the case for me at least....
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 11:22:07
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I had this problem last night w/my 980x. Got it fixed in 1 min. Went into bios and changed my uncore from auto to 25 on my 2.14 timing. RAM is @ 1.66 V here is a good ariticle: http://i4memory.com/f55/i...requency-ratios-23430/ Section in there about what uncore to use w/the 980x's 1.5 multiplier.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 13:06:46
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I've tried changing the CPU uncore, increasing the CPU voltage, changing the
Memory Lowback, etc. Still no results.
If I were to replace the hardware to be absolutely sure that it isn't anything defective, which piece of hardware would it be; the CPU or the motherboard?
I know I already replaced them but it is possible to get defective units twice. It's happened before and it'll keep happening. But I'd appreciate your opinions as this problem is excruciatingly annoying.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 14:00:24
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Sorry if this is a dumb thought but could it be your case? I didn't notice anywhere if you tried booting out of your tower for testing. Perhaps it is warping your board on install or something is causing a short with the dimm slots?
I know losing ram happens often with p55 boards because of heat sinks being over tightened and boards warping a little. To have the same problem twice makes me think either your setting something in bios completely wrong or it is an issue with your install or components that you didn't switch.
Just a thought. It very well could be bad luck.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 14:22:37
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i had the same dreaded "3.99 GB USABLE" issue. after determining slot#1 was bad- evga replaced my X58 LE. received my replacement last week and all 6gb recognized in bios- everything is back to normal. though your situation seems to defy logic- did i read correctly that you replaced the mobo, cpu AND ram? and your still having same issue? thats crazy man. just by the nature of the system not posting with one stick of ram in slot#1 for each stick would tell me that slot#1 is bad. that was the case for me at least....
Yes I would have to agree with this. Particularly if you tested out of the case. It could be that EVGA got a bad batch of mobo's. It is not unheard of for ppls to have to RMA several times before getting a good one, case in point: firbrd. He had to RMA something like 7 times. My first RMA was a dud.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 14:44:39
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BeeTee
i had the same dreaded "3.99 GB USABLE" issue. after determining slot#1 was bad- evga replaced my X58 LE. received my replacement last week and all 6gb recognized in bios- everything is back to normal. though your situation seems to defy logic- did i read correctly that you replaced the mobo, cpu AND ram? and your still having same issue? thats crazy man. just by the nature of the system not posting with one stick of ram in slot#1 for each stick would tell me that slot#1 is bad. that was the case for me at least....
Yes I would have to agree with this. Particularly if you tested out of the case. It could be that EVGA got a bad batch of mobo's. It is not unheard of for ppls to have to RMA several times before getting a good one, case in point: firbrd. He had to RMA something like 7 times. My first RMA was a dud.
That's insane that we have to keep replacing the same motherboard over and over. I just hope that if it is indeed the motherboard that I will get a good one the next time (if I do find out it is indeed a faulty mobo). Jambi, I haven't tried the motherboard outside of the case but I certainly didn't mount it to the case hard. I screwed it in just enough so that the motherboard is not going to fall completely off just to try it. I'm going to try to isolate the issue by bringing my 980x to my friend's house and trying it on his E758. After I do that, I can be somewhat sure it's a bad motherboard.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 15:05:15
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It's not so much a matter of screwed to the case hard, but a matter of shorting out on something like mobo standoffs. One person recently said "I used plenty of mobo standoffs"  . Often a person will dismiss the possibility of a standoff in the wrong place: 'Nah, I didn't do that, not possible.' And other times there might be a connector came off of a wire behind the mobo, or a wire had a bare spot and behind the mobo, particularly if the wire was next to the standoff before screwing the mobo down (a pinch). Anyway, the point is it is not just the pressure of the screws that we recommend taking the mobo out and testing for.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 16:04:14
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i will say that i am apprehensive about re-installing the heavy cpu heatsink assembly (V8) i was using, for fear that it may have been the catalyst for my "3.99 gb usable" issue.
one thing you might want to consider, is using the stock intel cpu cooler. for testing purposes. instead of a aftermarket cooler, as those can be heavy; and there are multiple posts that suggest a heavy cpu cooler may warp or damage the motherboard- causing this same issue. just a thought. your cooler could be the one common denominator you havent controlled yet.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 16:04:30
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It's not just the LE. I'm having the same issue with my newly completed machine built around an E760. Tried all the suggestions I've located in this forum and none have resolved the problem - 4 GB shows up in BIOS (S61J) and 6 GB shows in Win 7 Home Premium with only 3.99 usable. Also, E-LEET shows memory operating in Dual Channel. This issue is all over the forum with other brands of RAM as well. This is just too frequent with too many mainboards and too many different combinations of board, CPU (920, 975, etc.) BIOS versions and Memory Brand / Rated speeds to be a coincidence. C'mon EVGA, a little help here please!!
I'm a noob to Intel CPUs and EVGA boards but I've been building and OC'ng machines for a long time. Something's not right here.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 18:57:54
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It's not just the LE. I'm having the same issue with my newly completed machine built around an E760. Tried all the suggestions I've located in this forum and none have resolved the problem - 4 GB shows up in BIOS (S61J) and 6 GB shows in Win 7 Home Premium with only 3.99 usable. Also, E-LEET shows memory operating in Dual Channel. This issue is all over the forum with other brands of RAM as well. This is just too frequent with too many mainboards and too many different combinations of board, CPU (920, 975, etc.) BIOS versions and Memory Brand / Rated speeds to be a coincidence. C'mon EVGA, a little help here please!!
I'm a noob to Intel CPUs and EVGA boards but I've been building and OC'ng machines for a long time. Something's not right here.
I hear that. But sadly, no company is ever going to claim responsibility which is why I am in this situation that I'm in. Is it Intel, Corsair or EVGA that should get the replacement from? I have no clue. I'll try starting my computer with the motherboard out of the case in due time. First I want to see if it's a CPU issue when I go to a friend's house of mine. I'm pessimistic that it has anything to do with the motherboard warping though. The cooler I have is a Prolimatech Megahalems and tons of people have it, so I doubt that alone would be the issue. If anything, the mounting bracket would have did it but I already debunked that.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 19:47:09
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Could be standoff shorting too... indeed RMAs are a pain espeically when you get a dud back.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 22:36:46
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So I tried my motherboard outside of the case and my pessimism that it would work was unfortunately correct. It didn't work. Now I have to see if it truly is a defect of the CPU or motherboard. Probably more likely that it is the motherboard.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 22:56:17
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Why have I not seen any of you ask for a bios template?
Could you pls post your bios template?
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 23:09:52
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Why have I not seen any of you ask for a bios template?
Could you pls post your bios template?
Probably because I've already tried adjusting whatever important settings to get such a thing to work. I'll gladly post one when I have the time, but it's starting to look more like hardware defectiveness right now.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/01 23:39:27
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This problem has shown up on 2 different(same model) motherboards and 2 different sets of memory(same model) and 2 different cpus. I don't see how you figure it the mobo. I think it's in your settings. Post the template when you get a chance.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/02 01:50:16
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Mother Board ( EVGA X58 SLI LE E757 )
Drivers ( 1025 )
Bios (70)
CPU ( i7 980x )
CPU Cooler ( Prolimatech Megahalems )
Memory ( Corsair Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D 8-8-8-24 )
PSU ( Rosewill RBR1000-M 1000W )
GPU ( GTX260 )
Drivers(257.15)
Operating System ( Windows 7 64 Ultimate )
Frequency Control
CPU Clock Ratio ( 25X )
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( Auto )
MCH Strap ( Auto )
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( Auto )
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 100 )
Memory Feature
Memory Speed ( XMP Profile 1 )
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 1600Mhz / 2:12 )
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Memory Low Gap ( 3G )
tCL Setting ( 8 )
tRCD Setting ( 8 )
tRP Setting ( 8 )
tRAS Setting ( 24 )
tRFC Setting ( 88 )
Command Rate ( 2t )
Voltage Control
EVGA VDroop Control ( With VDroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.206 )
CPU VTT Voltage ( +225 mV )
CPU PLL VCore ( Auto )
DIMM Voltage ( 1.65v )
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )
QPI PLL VCore ( Auto )
IOH VCore ( Auto )
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto )
ICH VCore ( Auto )
CPU Feature
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )
CxE Function ( Enabled)
Execute Disable Bit ( Enabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( Auto )
OC Recovery ( Disabled )
Turbo Performance ( Disabled )
PnP/PCI PCI Express
Maximum Payload Size ( 128 )
Power Management Setup
ACPI Suspend Type ( S1 )
HPET Support ( Enabled )
HPET Mode ( 64-bit )
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/02 03:26:16
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Mother Board ( EVGA X58 SLI LE E757 )
Drivers ( 1025 )
Bios (70)
CPU ( i7 980x )
CPU Cooler ( Prolimatech Megahalems )
Memory ( Corsair Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D 8-8-8-24 )
PSU ( Rosewill RBR1000-M 1000W )
GPU ( GTX260 )
Drivers(257.15)
Operating System ( Windows 7 64 Ultimate )
Frequency Control
CPU Clock Ratio ( 25X )
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( Auto )
MCH Strap ( Auto )
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( Auto )
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 100 )
Memory Feature
Memory Speed ( Standard ) < Never use XMP
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 1600Mhz / 2:12 )
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Memory Low Gap ( Auto ) < Leave on Auto
tCL Setting ( 8 )
tRCD Setting ( 8 )
tRP Setting ( 8 )
tRAS Setting ( 24 )
tRFC Setting ( 88 )
Command Rate ( 2t )
Voltage Control
EVGA VDroop Control ( With VDroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.25 ) < increase a little to help in driving faster memory setting
CPU VTT Voltage ( Auto ) < Leave on Auto unless OCing then increase starting at default Auto setting
CPU PLL VCore ( Auto )
DIMM Voltage ( 1.65v )
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )
QPI PLL VCore ( Auto )
IOH VCore ( Auto )
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto )
ICH VCore ( Auto )
CPU Feature
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )
CxE Function ( Enabled)
Execute Disable Bit ( Enabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( Auto )
OC Recovery ( Enable ) < Will allow reboot to safe mode if settings do not work.
Turbo Performance ( Disabled )
PnP/PCI PCI Express
Maximum Payload Size ( 512-1024 )
Power Management Setup
ACPI Suspend Type ( S1 )
HPET Support ( Enabled )
HPET Mode ( 64-bit )
See if these settings work.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/02 03:43:14
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Sadly, those settings didn't work.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/02 04:00:02
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If you leave your CPU VCore and VTT on Auto what voltages are set?
Place 1 stick at a time in the furthest grey slot. If they all work the do the same with the middle grey then the 1st grey. If all three sticks work in all three slots the place 1 in furthest and 1 in middle. If that works then 1 in furthest and 1 in 1st. If that works the place last stick in middle slot. Reboot and go into bios and see what it shows.
Is the 3.99 being reported in the bios or Windows?
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/02 12:23:40
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Vcore goes to 1.19 and VTT is 200 both on Auto.
So here's what I did. I did as you instructed, placed each RAM stick in the two farthest gray slots, the two slots booted up to 2GB just fine with each individual stick. I then tried the closest gray slot to the CPU and the computer would turn on and turn off. It would just keep looping like that. So I turned it off completely, put two sticks in the gray slots that did appear to work and it detected 4GB. I even tried Memtest and there were no instant errors. I put the third stick of RAM in a black slot along with the two sticks in the gray slots and it seems to detect all 6GB. Ran Memtest again, no instant errors. Only when I put the third stick in the slot closest to the CPU will 3.99 usable come about AND when I run Memtest, hundreds of errors instantly.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/02 15:33:50
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Pull the cpu and check the socket for bent pins. It's possible one is bent. If you don't find any, then before fully reinstalling the cpu cooler, just put the cooler on the cpu and hold pressure with your hand and then boot. See if it sees all 6gig then with sticks in 3 grey slots.
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Re:3.99GB usable
2010/06/02 15:46:33
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ShockTheMonky
Pull the cpu and check the socket for bent pins. It's possible one is bent. If you don't find any, then before fully reinstalling the cpu cooler, just put the cooler on the cpu and hold pressure with your hand and then boot. See if it sees all 6gig then with sticks in 3 grey slots.
To be quite honest, I've checked the socket but I really don't have an eye for such a thing. At least, I didn't see any bent pins. But like I said, to check the CPU I'll just put it in my friend's motherboard who hasn't had any issues to see if the CPU is the culprit. But does it seem like something is defective to you too now?
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