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2016/09/15 00:50:06 (permalink)
I'm using the new Precision X OC 6.0.4 and i'm getting the voltage limit 1 during load with default settings with my new 1080 Classified. It runs 1974Mhz boosted using 1.050v which seems quite high compared to my other Classified which does 2025Mhz at only 1.031v at defaults.
 
Anyways its always showing voltage limit 1. Why??? If I overclock even just a hair it shows Power,voltage and heat limit all at 1. This is now my 3rd 1080 classified as there in stock at my local MC. The 2nd one also did the same. That one ran default at 2000Mhz at 1.063v and voltage 1. Any overclock it did the same with 1s all around. I thought forsure it was defective so I exchanged it only to find the 3rd one is doing the same thing!
 
My 1st 1080 Classified I tested runs perfectly and never ever shows a 1 for limits! Can overclock very high at super low voltage. Even overclock the memory super high unlike any of the other 10 1080s i've tried. Never ever drops its clock cause theres no limit hit.
 
I just don't get it.. the tempts are low in the upper 40's low 50s yet the temp limit is at 1 and the card downclocks because of it.. even with just the voltage limit hit it will downclock soon at defaults.
 
My first classified is a low serial number 08xx and the 2nd one was 22 above that and now the 3rd one is way newer.. has something changed?
 
I'm really at the breaking point with trying to settle with 2 1080 cards so I can start my new build.. cant get to that point till I know what i'm using so I can order the blocks for them or just go air cooling.. just real fustraighting. I think I found the perfect card yet the next 2 is not even in the same league.
 
Is something wrong with with this classified card?? Bios programed wrong with the clocks and voltage or its just not a good performer?

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 05:13:23 (permalink)
     There is nothing wrong with any of the classified cards you are using.  To be perfectly honest (and I also have a classified), there is no real point to the classified this generation as most of the cards are boosting around the same despite any "gpu binning".  The FTW is getting the same clocks as the classified.  The only real difference right now with the classy is the additional power phases and I would say it's cooling as opposed to the smaller FTW card.  Now as far as waterblocks go, EVGA says they are making a block for the classified, but that is it as of right now.  Alphacool might have something in about 12 weeks.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 05:29:27 (permalink)
    Have you tried POC ver 6.0.6
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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 05:49:08 (permalink)
    Yes I've been using that for all of them till late last night just to see if the newest version was causing the issues.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 06:12:31 (permalink)
    You generally hit the limit on one or the other and not all three.  Something is still off.  Now you have to figure out if it is your system or the card or your monitoring software.
     
    I may have missed it, but have you tried Afterburner?
     
    Also, is it doing that when running only one card in your primary slot as opposed to running it in SLI?

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 09:01:13 (permalink)
    Yes the first night with the first 2 classifieds after testing ea card. With them together it would do the same thing the 2nd card was doing in sli. That's now with the 2nd card in the 2nd slot. So different slots didn't change the worse card nor make it behave any different..

    So yeah since it has the voltage and whatever else limits going it will make both cards down clock.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 09:02:02 (permalink)
    Let me tell you the first card wants to do 2190mhz while almost hitting 12k ram. No limits hit ever.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 09:15:48 (permalink)
    Yeah if all 3 cards had the same voltage limit nailed at defaults or all 3 limits hit thrn yeah I'd say something in the system or the software but it's just 2.. but there acting the same. The crappy thing is the 2nd one I exchanged wanted to go to 2164 as well. This one is like instant freeze at 2139mhz even with max voltage of 1.094v.

    With all that said I'm actually not too concerned about high overclocks as I really don't see benches showing much difference at all in 3dmark. I just would like 2100 atleast and a water block option ans not have my clocks stable and not dropping cause of limits at 1 which drops them.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 09:25:31 (permalink)
    I'm prob gona have to call evga cs on the topic.

    I'm just wondering if it's just that I'm hitting the chip limit or somethings off on the card.. like the internal monitoring? Or bios flashed incorrectly with limits in place.. as in just flash it with a new bios made for the classified to clear it up.

    If that's the case, would be nice to flash it with the bios in the first card as no limits is ever hit. I'll know when I've hit a limit when it locks up under load.

    So yeah.. something internal or maybe something is not screwed down all the way with the cooler and something is overheating.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 09:30:14 (permalink)
    I will also say that sometimes for no reason all 3 limits will be at 1 and 10-12 seconds later they will just go back to 0 even though nothing has changed. The power,voltage and heat are the same.. the clocks the same.

    It's nuts.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 10:06:25 (permalink)
    So, just to be clear, if you run the card with the 'issues' in the primary slot by itself (and no second card installed at all), you still see this?

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 11:02:23 (permalink)
    Its normal, since frequency is tied to voltage what it means you need to your voltage, try setting voltage 100%. if still showing 1, increase frequency offset to force a higher voltage stepping.


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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 11:39:48 (permalink)
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    Its normal, since frequency is tied to voltage what it means you need to your voltage, try setting voltage 100%. if still showing 1, increase frequency offset to force a higher voltage stepping.


    Ok so if it's saying voltage limit 1 while runing the cards defaults "stock" and it's runing ingredients 1975mhz at 1.065v and that's not enough then I guess it's prob a bad card if it needs that much voltage.

    And I can't wait to get home to test it with max voltage at that 1975.. cause if it don't go away wow.

    I also believe I was able to lower the voltage at a certain mhz to get it voltage limit to 0.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 12:16:42 (permalink)
    Just tried it all stock in px oc with max voltage of 1.094v.

    Starts out at 2000mhz at 2.94v and voltage limit "1" is on the whole time now for about 10 mins. After 3-4 mins I see that it dropped to 1987mhz and still 1.094v and voltage limit 1. Temps are at 52-54c fan speed 89% on my curve. Power 80-90%.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 12:33:00 (permalink)
    Ok just entered debug mode in NV control.

    Ran defaults with firestrike graphic test 2 loop.

    Right away it's at 1873mhz at 1.063v with you guessed it.. voltage limit 1!

    Drops down to 1860 after a min and still 1.063v. Still voltage limit 1.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 12:34:46 (permalink)
    What's this card rated speed? 1860.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 12:37:00 (permalink)
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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 12:40:39 (permalink)
    Hit it again this time with max voltage and it runs at 1886mhz in debug mode with 1.094v and yes.. voltage limit 1.

    Edit.. after 10 mins or so has dropped to 1873mhz.. most likely going to drop to 1860mhz shortly. Will let it run to see if it drops below that.

    Unsure what the rated specs are for the card at 1860mhz but is it at 1.65-1.1v cause I can't select a higher voltage and wondering why this chip passed the mark to be installed in a classified card.

    Sounds like I gota embarrass myself again and go in there and tell them that I got 2 lemons in a row and need another.. ? Really? Only 1 out of 3 is good?
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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 12:41:19 (permalink)
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    How many times are you going to make a thread about this? 
     
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    No one seen it in the other one.. and this is also a whole different card.. card 3.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 12:46:10 (permalink)
    Should I just keep one of the 2 ftw hybrid cards and use it in the 2nd slot??? Have 2 different cards just to have sli?

    1 of the 2 hybrids has the black screen issue for sure and can't trust the other but god..

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 12:51:57 (permalink)
    Just ran -100 vote for 1772mhz. Downloaded to 1759 in 20 secs. Voltage ran at 1.065v on its own. Voltage limit still 1.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 12:54:31 (permalink)
    Best I can do is 1671mhz and it drops to 1658mhz in 20 sec. 1.063v and still voltage limit 1.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 12:59:26 (permalink)
    Tried setting max volts at -200 and it used 1.082v I believe then after a min dropped to 1.072v still voltage 1.

    So if something on this card was not programed wrong with whatever is controlling the amount of voltage to use at certain clocks (bios?), then I guess this card is a lemon.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 13:16:41 (permalink)
    Lemon for overclocking? Yep. Works fine under factory conditions? Yep.
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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 13:20:56 (permalink)
    Jacob says voltage limit 1 means it needs more voltage. If i run it at the max you can give it 1.094v at 1860 or even 1660mhz and it still says it needs more voltage to be happy, it's fine?

    $750 bucks on there top tier 1080 card and that's to be expected and that passed the grade worthy of the classified model and it should be exceptable?

    Is Jacob from evga saying this?

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 13:22:55 (permalink)
    Jacob is wrong. Voltage limit = 1 means the card is being limited by voltage. 
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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 13:29:15 (permalink)
    Voltage limit is determined by vbios/voltage controller on the card.
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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 13:44:29 (permalink)
    Meaning?? Voltage controller is unstable at that current voltage and is recommended to lower voltage for stability correct? Meaning it can't run whatecer speeds it is cause the voltage controller can't or is programed incorrectly or faulty right? Or something in the path is not good.

    Also runing in overclocked mode in debug I don't get the temp or power limit at 1 like usual. Still wont run without lock ups at max voltage at 2000+. Not that I care. I'm only trying to get a stable clock like the first card that would never move cause of limits going off.

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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 13:45:18 (permalink)
    more open box deals at microcenter... sweet.
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    Re: 1080 Classified problem limits going off at defaults.. on 3rd card. 2016/09/15 13:51:17 (permalink)
    AHowes
    Meaning?? Voltage controller is unstable at that current voltage and is recommended to lower voltage for stability correct? Meaning it can't run whatecer speeds it is cause the voltage controller can't or is programed incorrectly or faulty right? Or something in the path is not good.

    Also runing in overclocked mode in debug I don't get the temp or power limit at 1 like usual. Still wont run without lock ups at max voltage at 2000+. Not that I care. I'm only trying to get a stable clock like the first card that would never move cause of limits going off.

    Voltage controller isn't unstable. I'm pretty sure the vbios on the card is set to limit voltage at 1.050v. So once you hit 1.050v it causes voltage limit 1.
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