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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/24 09:56:37 (permalink)
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so is there any good OCZ ram for this board 

It is not the OCZ model of RAM that you purchased that is potentially the problem, it is that for some folks, OCZ RAM period does not play well with the 790i chipset, therefore, there is no OCZ RAM that I can recommend for your board.

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/24 11:04:36 (permalink)
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so is there any good OCZ ram for this board 

It is not the OCZ model of RAM that you purchased that is potentially the problem, it is that for some folks, OCZ RAM period does not play well with the 790i chipset, therefore, there is no OCZ RAM that I can recommend for your board.



darn so i have to buy it online
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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/25 06:36:52 (permalink)
ok update

my pc has been  running  for more than 1 day right now and i did not face any freezing problems
bizarre it is
my timing is 7-7-7-24 2t @1.9v & P1,P2 at auto (i did not change anything except P1&P2 at Enabled then i rolled it back to Auto )

P.S.
i just found Patriot Gaming series Ram 6GB Kit 1600 triple channel (is it any good although it is Triple channel)

and how about those
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220432&nm_mc=OTC-B1zrat3&cm_mmc=OTC-B1zrat3-_-Memory+(Desktop+Memory)-_-Patriot+Memory-_-20220432

and
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220436&nm_mc=OTC-B1zrat3&cm_mmc=OTC-B1zrat3-_-Memory+(Desktop+Memory)-_-Patriot+Memory-_-20220436


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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/25 06:45:13 (permalink)
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ok update
my pc has been  running  for more than 1 day right now and i did not face any freezing problems
bizarre it is
my timing is 7-7-7-24 2t @1.9v & P1,P2 at auto (i did not change anything except P1&P2 at Enabled then i rolled it back to Auto )
P.S.
i just found Patriot Gaming series Ram 6GB Kit 1600 triple channel (is it any good although it is Triple channel)
and how about those
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220432&nm_mc=OTC-B1zrat3&cm_mmc=OTC-B1zrat3-_-Memory+(Desktop+Memory)-_-Patriot+Memory-_-20220432
and
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220436&nm_mc=OTC-B1zrat3&cm_mmc=OTC-B1zrat3-_-Memory+(Desktop+Memory)-_-Patriot+Memory-_-20220436

Both are good, although if I had to pick one, it would be the second link.  The best RAM for the 790i series board is this:
http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16820220344
or, the 1600Mhz version of the Viper series (green heatsink).  It is optimized for the 790i chipset.

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/25 07:03:32 (permalink)
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or, the 1600Mhz version of the Viper series (green heatsink).  It is optimized for the 790i chipset.



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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/25 07:06:35 (permalink)
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or, the 1600Mhz version of the Viper series (green heatsink).  It is optimized for the 790i chipset.

link?
i cant find at newegg

Link:
http://www.directron.com/pvs34g1600llkn.html
Edit - realized it has an ETA of to be determined.  You could call them and ask when they expect to have it in.  Or, you could run the 2000Mhz RAM at lower timings and voltage...I do...I run them at 1700Mhz linked and synced @ 1.6v. Forgot to add, also at tighter timings...FYI - Check the 3,000 post thread, you misunderstood what I was saying.
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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/25 10:07:48 (permalink)
To support what VH said about OCZ, I have a Q6600 machine with OCZmemory that tests stable but will freeze occasionally.  We here have pretty much tried everything and it will still occasionally freeze for no apparrent reason.  I always blamed those particular sticks of memory, and not OCZ in general.  I generally liked OCZ products, have a few of their power supplys, CPU heatsinks, RAM, etc..  I decided to get some RAM for the system below (in my sig) since I have always wanted to run the memory Linked & Synced but my wonderful Mushkin memory is only 1600 and cannot get to 1800.  So I check around and find some OCZ 1866 memory for a decent price and have it shipped for Christmas.  I install and slightly underclock the memory with everything at stock and guess what ... NO POST.  Switch to 2T and it will POST but lasts about 5 seconds into Prime blend.  Yea ... 5 seconds.  It will pass Memtest but that is about it.  I contact OCZ and they give me some recommendations that I try unsuccessfully.  They give me several more sets of settings to "TRY" (some of them are in-depth and extreme) but none are successful at getting the 1866 memory to run at 1800 and pass Prime for more than a few seconds.  Even loosening the timing more will not give me more than a few seconds into Prime.  Since the sticks pass memtest, I have reached the conclusion that OCZ and the 790i just don't play well together period.  They likely make good memory, just keep it away from your 790.  I am now trying to convince the reseller to exchange the OCZ for the Patriot that VH and others have used with good results.

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/25 13:54:50 (permalink)
Thanks a lot chememan 
I think there are one kind of OCZ Ram work well on 790i the SLI ones (correct me if im wrong ) but it is no where to be found
also u have used Mushkin ? any thought ?  is there a particular kind u recommend  ?
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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/25 14:36:14 (permalink)
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Thanks a lot chememan 
I think there are one kind of OCZ Ram work well on 790i the SLI ones (correct me if im wrong ) but it is no where to be found
also u have used Mushkin ? any thought ?  is there a particular kind u recommend  ?
thanks again 

See post # 22 for recommendations.

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/25 14:51:30 (permalink)
You will need to check out VH"s post # 22 for current choices.  I am thrilled with my Mushkin 996601, they are very similar to the Mushkin in VH's post but mine are no longer available.  Mine are 7-7-6-18-1T at 1.85-1.9v 1600mhz.  They will OC to about 1700 but will not take me to 1800.  The good part is they dropped in and ran at the rated speed and voltage without any drama or adjustments needed.   

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/27 04:12:05 (permalink)
thank you all again
Sadly the rams on post 22 aren't available right now
let me Explain why i have trouble buying rams Online 
i don't live in USA or UK so when it comes to buy things Online there are limited companies that offers buying and shipping to ur home (ShopShip servers) 
in my case the company I deal with which is the best (it actually sucks but it is the best around ) only deals with limited Online Shopping Site and newegg is supported but not fully (hahahaha)
and that's why im troubling u guys 
so i will keep scooping around

OK back on topic
I changed The CPU Core voltage from 1.4 to 1.225 (as u recommended ) then yesterday i was playing L4D2 then the game Freezed on me  so i Hard Quit the game then suddenly the screen shows coloured dots (GPU)....!!
and today i was watching youtube video then PC froze and lockup on me (the old freeze that require pc hard restart )
I raised the CPU Core Voltage to 1.3..

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/27 06:23:57 (permalink)
Does 1.30v keep you from freezing?
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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/27 06:47:55 (permalink)
im testing it right now and i will keep u posted

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/28 00:58:37 (permalink)
OK when I said CPU Core voltage i actually meant FSB v

so FSB v 1.4--> 1.2 = freeze
               1.2--->1.3 = freeze
                 1.3--->1.4 = freeze again ( it was stable)

i raised the mem voltage from 1.90 to 1.97 so we well see


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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/28 01:53:30 (permalink)
OK about the mem voltage
is there a difference between 1.90v and 1.95v or 1.97v 
some sites state this ram as 1.9 and other at 1.95 
I never tested it at 1.95 
my ram Part number is
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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/28 03:36:04 (permalink)
Up to 2.0v is ok.
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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/28 08:45:32 (permalink)
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Up to 2.0v is ok.



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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/28 10:08:52 (permalink)
OK update
the mem voltage has been raised to 1.97 and yet it is still  freeze

I am OUT OF IDEAS
any thoughts?

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/28 10:13:54 (permalink)
The OCZ is the problem really. Alot of ppl reported freezing problems with OCZ mem. Yo need to push it to around 2.1 for it to half way act right. Most ppl just got new mem to solve the problem.

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/28 10:31:27 (permalink)
I use OCZ memory (see my sig) and have it running stable.  Had it running stable at 1800MHz (9-9-9-30 2T 1.95v) and 1600MHz (8-7-7-24 2T 1.8v), both linked and synced.  These are SLI-ready EPP 2.0 sticks.  I don't run video games so other than running IBT to stress test, I don't normally stress my system.  thorne
post edited by thornev - 2009/12/28 10:36:41

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/28 11:54:14 (permalink)
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The OCZ is the problem really. Alot of ppl reported freezing problems with OCZ mem. Yo need to push it to around 2.1 for it to half way act right. Most ppl just got new mem to solve the problem.

i think it is too high
it gonna break mem ...you? 

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/28 11:58:52 (permalink)
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I use OCZ memory (see my sig) and have it running stable.  Had it running stable at 1800MHz (9-9-9-30 2T 1.95v) and 1600MHz (8-7-7-24 2T 1.8v), both linked and synced.  These are SLI-ready EPP 2.0 sticks.  I don't run video games so other than running IBT to stress test, I don't normally stress my system.  thorne



yeah the one you have is good and designed for nvidia chipset  
but mine ...meh
maybe the problem isn't the mem maybe CPU,GPU ? 

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/28 13:17:18 (permalink)
Why don't you flash to the latest BIOS version anyway, it can hurt.  Try your RAM at 2.1v as suggested, it is a 1/10 of a volt higher than 2.0v.   You are running at stock speed with good settings, you should not be freezing, so IMO it is the RAM or video card drivers causing the problem.  Did you try an earlier version driver as I recommended in post #59?  You need to try these changes one at a time so that you can know what change alleviated the problem.  What I would do in the following order is:
1.  Flash your BIOS to the latest version using the CD, floppy, or USB flash drive method.
2.  Try an earlier version video card driver.  The following link is the Nvidia archived driver link.  http://www.nvidia.com/Dow.oad/Find.aspx?lang=en-us
3.  Try running your RAM at 2.1v.
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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/28 13:32:52 (permalink)
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Why don't you flash to the latest BIOS version anyway, it can hurt.  Try your RAM at 2.1v as suggested, it is a 1/10 of a volt higher than 2.0v.   You are running at stock speed with good settings, you should not be freezing, so IMO it is the RAM or video card drivers causing the problem.  Did you try an earlier version driver as I recommended in post #59?  You need to try these changes one at a time so that you can know what change alleviated the problem.  What I would do in the following order is:
1.  Flash your BIOS to the latest version using the CD, floppy, or USB flash drive method.
2.  Try an earlier version video card driver.  The following link is the Nvidia archived driver link.  http://www.nvidia.com/Dow.oad/Find.aspx?lang=en-us
3.  Try running your RAM at 2.1v.



alright 
i will try all 
thanks VH
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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/29 09:12:38 (permalink)
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2.  Try an earlier version video card driver.  The following link is the Nvidia archived driver link. 
 
tried that didn't play very well 


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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/29 10:10:09 (permalink)
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1.  Flash your BIOS to the latest version using the CD, floppy, or USB flash drive method.




i just flashed my BIOS and i will keep u posted

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/29 12:40:16 (permalink)
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2.  Try an earlier version video card driver.  The following link is the Nvidia archived driver link. 
 
tried that didn't play very well 

What version did you try?

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/29 13:16:29 (permalink)
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I have the ultra and the same ram as VistaHead. I have a mem controller issue that VistaHead has been helping me with and my board is going back for a holiday at EVGA

When mine is working this ram and system is unreal...it flys. I would recomend this ram (Patriot Viper 4GB (2X2GB) PVS34G2000LLKN) in this board or any 790i version. My guess would be that if you were to get hold of it somewhere....your problems may well vamoooos

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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/29 13:23:20 (permalink)
VistaHead

What version did you try?



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Re:790I FTW D freeze and lockups please helllllllp.. VistaHead bring your guns here 2009/12/29 13:24:29 (permalink)
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VistaHead bring your guns here

I have the ultra and the same ram as VistaHead. I have a mem controller issue that VistaHead has been helping me with and my board is going back for a holiday at EVGA

When mine is working this ram and system is unreal...it flys. I would recomend this ram (Patriot Viper 4GB (2X2GB) PVS34G2000LLKN) in this board or any 790i version. My guess would be that if you were to get hold of it somewhere....your problems may well vamoooos

if i only got hold of it
but im waiting ....

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WD 1TB + WD 300 GB (OS)     
ThermalTake ToughtPower 1200w modular
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