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2017/05/31 15:53:21 (permalink)
hello,
 
i'm using this card 55 core and 300 mem stable. i saw some results that somebody can hit 2050+:
 

 
and this is my results:
 

 
i'm asking this because i saw scratches on both "evga" and "hybrid" lighting sections, some stains and fingerprints on backplate when unboxing. i think someone bought this card and figured out this card can't hit 2050+ and returned back to amazon. and i bought it..
 
 

 
opt1- worry about it
opt2- screw it
extra- what is your experience about ocing ftw hybrid?
 
thanks
 
edit: image rules..... lol
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/05/31 15:56:21 (permalink)
    Gotta love that silicon lottery.
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/05/31 16:22:21 (permalink)
    just give it time, play with it some more enjoy the card, one day the driver will be on your side 
     
    i couldn't get a stable 2088 on my pair of 1080ftw, now i got them running stable @2162 benching(water)  
     
    but i will say with Pascal that i found @2088-2100 gives you better bench scores than @2113-2162, i think buildzoid found similar in a 1070 he was bodging https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bflLDenKirQ  worth a look, crazy fool lol  
     
    EDIT: sorry dunno how that translates to your situation by hey 1st o the month
    post edited by baconinabun - 2017/05/31 16:32:21
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/05/31 16:54:07 (permalink)
    Maybe just unlucky on the silicon dude, my air cooled STRIX makes it to 2050 and comes down to around 2025 at 70-75c
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/05/31 17:58:28 (permalink)
    Yeah I wish I had stayed with the 1080 ti asus strix it would do 2050 all day long. This evga hybrid 1080 ti just sucks balls can't even do 2025 , just sad I will stick with asus from now on air or not the evga 980ti's where pretty sad also
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/05/31 19:39:29 (permalink)
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    Yeah I wish I had stayed with the 1080 ti asus strix it would do 2050 all day long. This evga hybrid 1080 ti just sucks balls can't even do 2025 , just sad I will stick with asus from now on air or not the evga 980ti's where pretty sad also



    My 980ti acx2.0 I got for step-up overclocked to 1550MHz boost (+350 core) as a daily clock....  My EVGA FE 1080ti clocks to 2100, but i run it at 2050 all day.  It's all a lottery.   They don't pre-bin gpus to manufactures.  You can end up with the same results either way.

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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/05/31 23:55:06 (permalink)
    well good for you  like i said the strix i had and 2 others friends have all run 2050 all day long.
    so if  a lotto is true then asus has better odds what ever way you look at it.
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/05/31 23:58:59 (permalink)
    I have 1070 FTW hybrid (with Arctic F12 push/pull config). 
     
    I am using it at +80 core and +350 mem daily. Temp doesn't go above 45C during BF1 (everything @ultra settings) and core is stable 2088mhz until the end. 
    Superposition bench is around 3750-3800 at 1080p Extreme. 
     
     
     
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 03:33:55 (permalink)
    my icx sc2 hit 2075 and the lowest it got while gaming / benchmarking was 2035 , i don't know what to tell you , i was running on air 

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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 03:43:00 (permalink)
    Simply the silicon lottery. It doesn't matter how good the cooling is or what extra is added to the PCB. I have a stock reference board, SC variant and achieve 2126MHz.

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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 04:11:08 (permalink)
    i can give yous a lil hint, KEEP Pascal AS COOL AS POSSIBLE  that includes your ambient temps 
     
    P.S NO such thing as a "silicon lottery" it's term made up by people that can't overclock or just don't understand the basics of it 
    post edited by baconinabun - 2017/06/01 04:13:34
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 05:41:42 (permalink)
    guys, you're wrong that thinking it's a lottery. but it's not, it's like adopting.
     
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    >it's not a good boy
    *dumps dog*
    *adopts a new dog from shelter*
    >ahhh it's a good boy
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 05:45:13 (permalink)
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    I have 1070 FTW hybrid (with Arctic F12 push/pull config). 
     
    I am using it at +80 core and +350 mem daily. Temp doesn't go above 45C during BF1 (everything @ultra settings) and core is stable 2088mhz until the end. 
    Superposition bench is around 3750-3800 at 1080p Extreme. 
     
     
     




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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 05:53:18 (permalink)
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    just give it time, play with it some more enjoy the card, one day the driver will be on your side 
     
    i couldn't get a stable 2088 on my pair of 1080ftw, now i got them running stable @2162 benching(water)  
     
    but i will say with Pascal that i found @2088-2100 gives you better bench scores than @2113-2162, i think buildzoid found similar in a 1070 he was bodging   worth a look, crazy fool lol  
     
    EDIT: sorry dunno how that translates to your situation by hey 1st o the month




    you are right. actually i'm satisfied about this card. i can do whatever i want. but i think 2050 is not meets "for the win" phrase.
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 06:26:30 (permalink)
    Did you really just say there is no such thing as the silicone lottery?

    You do understand why there are various tiers of processors and gpus right?

    Processors are produced on a large wafer made of multiple proceeds dies. because of the mfg process not all are produced perfectly.

    The best become I7's or Titan models because they have no flaws and are the fully functioning chip.

    The ones with small errors in shader clusters. Caches etc become 1080's or 1070's for example with lower cude core counts and less shaders as those clusters are disabled if they don't function on the die properly.
    This is as much as it is damage control as by design. Company's recoup their losses from imperfect chips by offering lower tier models with various functions disabled.

    CPU's with flaws become i5's or i3's.

    The whole reason these tiers of products exist is because of the silicone lottery. And within each product range there are variances between each specific chip.

    😂
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 06:32:37 (permalink)
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    Simply the silicon lottery. It doesn't matter how good the cooling is or what extra is added to the PCB. I have a stock reference board, SC variant and achieve 2126MHz.




    This is pretty much it...  I was getting a stable 2076 mhz with the 1080 Ti FE on air... prior to adding the hybrid.

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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 06:40:51 (permalink)
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    Did you really just say there is no such thing as the silicone lottery?

    You do understand why there are various tiers of processors and gpus right?

    Processors are produced on a large wafer made of multiple proceeds dies. because of the mfg process not all are produced perfectly.

    The best become I7's or Titan models because they have no flaws and are the fully functioning chip.

    The ones with small errors in shader clusters. Caches etc become 1080's or 1070's for example with lower cude core counts and less shaders as those clusters are disabled if they don't function on the die properly.
    This is as much as it is damage control as by design. Company's recoup their losses from imperfect chips by offering lower tier models with various functions disabled.

    CPU's with flaws become i5's or i3's.

    The whole reason these tiers of products exist is because of the silicone lottery. And within each product range there are variances between each specific chip.

    😂



    whoa bro calm down. as i said at the first post:
     
    "i'm asking this because i saw scratches on both "evga" and "hybrid" lighting sections, some stains and fingerprints on backplate when unboxing. i think someone bought this card and figured out this card can't hit 2050+ and returned back to amazon. and i bought it.."
     
    that's why i'm thinking it's adopting, not lottery.
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 07:11:04 (permalink)
    @aeareg34 they get ofal excited when you call out their silicon lottery delusions, but back to the point, i started my OC +56 @2050 after a few months i was able to get up to the +115 @2126 with getting to know the cards not because of no lottery the cards haven't changed since arriving(except for the 2 full cover EK blocks on them) but i'm getting best clocks, GPU-Boost is 
    post edited by Sajin - 2017/06/01 11:04:58
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 07:52:52 (permalink)
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    @aeareg34 they get ofal excited when you call out their silicon lottery delusions, but back to the point, i started my OC +56 @2050 after a few months i was able to get up to the +115 @2126 with getting to know the cards not because of no lottery the cards haven't changed since arriving(except for the 2 full cover EK blocks on them) but i'm getting best clocks, GPU-Boost is 


    There's nothing delusional about the way processors are manufactured.
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 08:47:20 (permalink)
    cloiselle1
     
    There's nothing delusional about the way processors are manufactured. 

     
    and this is why your delusions of some sort of lucky dip/bag lottery are what they are. My Friend 
    post edited by Sajin - 2017/06/01 11:05:45
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 09:12:14 (permalink)
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    @aeareg34 they get ofal excited when you call out their silicon lottery delusions, but back to the point, i started my OC +56 @2050 after a few months i was able to get up to the +115 @2126 with getting to know the cards not because of no lottery the cards haven't changed since arriving(except for the 2 full cover EK blocks on them) but i'm getting best clocks, GPU-Boost is


    Your experience doesn't change reality. It proves it. You didn't get to know anything. You made your GPU cooler and you had a great chip so you were able to increase your core clock even more. It's not rocket science. If you had the GPU in the card that this thread was created for in your board you would have never got 2050 in the first place and placing full waterblocks on the chip wouldnt change that. There are FTW3 cards that can't hit 2000 at 55c. Adding a waterblocks won't change it.
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 09:12:40 (permalink)
    Every single chip has variations from sample to sample, ever notice that? 
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 11:12:22 (permalink)
    Cleaned up thread. Personal attacks/Foul language aren't allowed on the evga forums. If the evga forums terms of use continue to be broken warnings will be issued.
     
     
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 11:13:53 (permalink)
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    Did you really just say there is no such thing as the silicone lottery?

    Processors are produced on a large wafer made of multiple proceeds dies. because of the mfg process not all are produced perfectly.

    +1
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/01 11:21:44 (permalink)
    that is why you have quality control and gtx1030s, not a lottery  
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/02 04:36:52 (permalink)
    i don't care if there's a silicon lottery or not. you guys keep missing the point. and i'm not gonna explain it again. thanks though..
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/02 06:52:53 (permalink)
    There's nothing to explain. Your making a fool of yourself to highly experienced people who work both in and with this industry. 😂

    Sorry for personal attacks but some of this has been ridiculous.
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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/02 09:49:21 (permalink)
    You can call it what you like.  If all silicon was the same then my 2 1080 FE's would boost/overclock the same, but they dont in the same PC with the same drivers. One clocks higher so, if it is not silicon lottery then what ever you want to call it, they are not the same. You have the same thing that everyone else has so call it what ever you like.
     
    Mature drivers and bios updates can get you higher overclock, but can very and will very from pc to pc. 
     
     

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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/02 10:01:40 (permalink)
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    Yeah I wish I had stayed with the 1080 ti asus strix it would do 2050 all day long. This evga hybrid 1080 ti just sucks balls can't even do 2025 , just sad I will stick with asus from now on air or not the evga 980ti's where pretty sad also

    Silicon lottery.
     
     

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    Re: why can't i hit 2050+ clock? (1070 ftw hybrid) 2017/06/02 22:42:08 (permalink)
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    Did you really just say there is no such thing as the silicone lottery?

    Processors are produced on a large wafer made of multiple proceeds dies. because of the mfg process not all are produced perfectly.

    +1


    +2. Funny how this thread turned out.
     
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    I've seen enough people "proud" and posting about playing the silicon lottery. Who did you buy from on Amazon?

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