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Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/29 08:32:24 (permalink)
Lehpron I will pay you to answer my FSB:DRAM question post!  I can't get a taker on it because it's closely tied to the CPU/RAM relationship through the MCH strap and such, but it doesn't seem many people understand how it works.  I beg ya !

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Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/29 08:33:23 (permalink)
Higher stock clock speed of 3.1ghz mate. Nothing unlocked in terms of overclocking features. Usual turbo ratios available but thats about it. I have the latest C0 stepping.
 
Can any mod please comment on the overclocking or lack of it on this board as all xeon 2011 are locked and straps do not work.

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Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/29 09:04:53 (permalink)
USMC what is you question??? I may be able to answer.

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Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/29 09:28:24 (permalink)
I presume your chip(s) are still ES, pazza? I would hope that EVGA knows something we don't... perhaps some of the retail chips will have some of their shackles removed?
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/29 09:37:57 (permalink)
Yes they are all ES. But unless EVGA has an ace in the pack no significant overclocking can be done on this board.

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Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/29 10:27:10 (permalink)
The question was how to modify the FSB:DRAM ratio in the BIOS.  Nothing is straight forward.  I see the MCH Strap and the Unclock Frequency and the Memory Frequency, but all their settings are frequency numbers... not sure how to tweak those to what I want to set as my frequency settings so as a result I leave MCH Strap and Uncore Freq on defaults.

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Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/31 18:28:02 (permalink)
Forgotton
All motherboards and i do mean ALL can support ECC and or Registered memory. anyone who say's otherwise needs to go back to computers 101. So yes SR2 & SRX  can utilize it. The main difference between ECC and non-ECC is speed. NON Can be faster.......

this is true in the sense you can use a ecc dimm in a regular (non ecc) motherboard.  but the motherboard has been wired to read the ecc bits and has to use a memory controller (now integrated into cpu) which can utilize it (do the error checking).  error checking is not done on the dimm.  also servers have not been about pure speed, but more on accuracy and have been certified (gone thru more testing then desktop)
desktop boards will not have the ecc bits wired in most cases...

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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/01 08:16:00 (permalink)
Yep, proven reliabiity with registered ECC.  That's why I have over $150 invested per memory chip on my board... that is until my dominators get here.

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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/01 12:17:30 (permalink)
Im in way to test 8 piece of 2687W with 2 diferant steep ( 2 and 3).
 
If the steep BLK is locked its possilbe due to hight TPD problem ...   not just beacause ES verssion.
  possible all official rev C0 and C2 are steep locked.
 
2690 ??? possible unlock ?
 
If no XEON steep BLK unlocked    SRX usless.
  I can't belive that.
post edited by mosie - 2012/01/01 12:42:50
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/02 17:43:34 (permalink)
dont worry it will be able to be done. just give it time... wait till all is released and then we make answers... there is no way they will deny this.
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/03 00:33:33 (permalink)
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dont worry it will be able to be done. just give it time... wait till all is released and then we make answers... there is no way they will deny this.

 
That's my thoughts exactly. EVGA wouldn't be developing a board for overclocking chips that will never exist. In fact, I would be surprised if the developers don't have sample chips to test the overclocking features (if not then the board won't be ready for some time after the chips are released). Just because one person says they have a number of samples that they can't overclock on some other (sample) board does not mean that none will overclock on the SR-X :)

 
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/03 11:47:44 (permalink)
You have not alreday buy 8 piece  2687W :)
 
  Its strange beacause the option is valid, but CPU fail to boot after modification steep seting.
 
Possible MB bios probleme ?
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/03 12:01:33 (permalink)
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yaren

dont worry it will be able to be done. just give it time... wait till all is released and then we make answers... there is no way they will deny this.


That's my thoughts exactly. EVGA wouldn't be developing a board for overclocking chips that will never exist. In fact, I would be surprised if the developers don't have sample chips to test the overclocking features (if not then the board won't be ready for some time after the chips are released). Just because one person says they have a number of samples that they can't overclock on some other (sample) board does not mean that none will overclock on the SR-X :)

 
Devil's Advocate time.
 
This is a valid point, but the counterpoint is that EVGA's focus with the SR-X is to being CF/SLI to a Romley board, not necessarily for the overclocking functionality. The 8-core CPUs are going to overclock poorly, I'm betting, and those are what everyone who wants an SR-X is gunning for.
 
Personally, I think the ES chips are locked and (some of) the retail chips wont be.
 
 
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/03 12:27:58 (permalink)
The steep are not locked I have acces to modifie this seting, but whene you aply this, MB fail to boot. the seting work but "certenely" MB fail to launch it.
 
Intel have not block this seting.
Personally, I think need just an update MB to fix the problem.
 
more info: http://hwbot.org/forum/sh...php?t=34292&page=2
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/03 16:53:47 (permalink)
Oh, excellent. Good to know.
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/03 18:35:14 (permalink)
It's been nearly 2 weeks since i built a system.  Really looking forward to SR-X.

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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/04 14:59:49 (permalink)
The problem is the straps must be activated within the CPU. If they are not when you set 125 all otehr more sensitive buses also are clocked at 125 such as SATA and PCI EX and they simply wont run at these speeds. No divider is applied to them. I have experienced this with every ES CPU and every board I have tried.

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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/04 16:28:12 (permalink)
Yep.  Its certenely true.
I thinK same.
In fact: You can modifi directly the BLK, have the same efect.
 
But I dont know if this problem can be fix by MB bios, or if its a microcode CPU probleme.
 
 
post edited by mosie - 2012/01/04 16:34:37
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/04 18:49:38 (permalink)
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yaren

dont worry it will be able to be done. just give it time... wait till all is released and then we make answers... there is no way they will deny this.


That's my thoughts exactly. EVGA wouldn't be developing a board for overclocking chips that will never exist. In fact, I would be surprised if the developers don't have sample chips to test the overclocking features (if not then the board won't be ready for some time after the chips are released). Just because one person says they have a number of samples that they can't overclock on some other (sample) board does not mean that none will overclock on the SR-X :)

 
 
There are many more Xeons that have not been overclockable than one;s that have.  And Who knows how much overclocking headroom the new Xeons will have anyways, especially the 8 cores.
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/05 00:24:00 (permalink)
socket 2011 server processors released by ibm can be seen at the links below. They are to PDF files 
 
http://www.intel.com/cont...11-datasheet-vol-1.pdf
 
http://www.intel.com/cont...ml?wapkw=socket%202011

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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/05 08:45:45 (permalink)
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socket 2011 server processors released by ibm can be seen at the links below. They are to PDF files 





 
They are the datasheets for SB-E i7, not server chips. Also they were not released by IBM, they were released by Intel (although IBM may have released a product that uses them - that I'm not sure about)

 
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/05 08:51:25 (permalink)
They are fact sheets about the I7 2011 Socket server processors. All released data about them including all possible features.
 
Supporting Desktop Intel® Core™ i7-3960X Extreme Edition Processor for
the LGA-2011 Socket
Supporting Desktop Intel® Core™ i7-39xxK and i7-38xx Processor Series
for the LGA-2011 Socket
 
This means ALL of these processors are slotted to be usable by the SrX
And you can find everything the motherboard companies would be told these can do.
Since someone decided to dismiss without reading and i do not wish to flood posts.
http://www.intel.com/cont...processor-numbers.html

Processor Family Number Sequence System Type
Intel® Itanium® processor 9000 Multi-processor and dual-processor
Intel® Xeon® processor 7000 Multi-processor
Intel® Xeon® processor 5000 Dual-processor
Intel® Xeon® processor 3000 Single-processor  
even if one of the lowest in the fact sheet isn't.. other are and the abilities are listed this is more info then has been displayed about the processors that 2011 sockets then anywhere else in these forums. please research before responding. There have been so many hater posts even in build logs that ppl have responded to that after this any info found by me will no longer be posted save to those whom i know want it. msg me anyone if you wish to know from here on out. I found the xeon 2011 processor types with # of processors that will work because of information in the fact sheets. So YES if you read them you can figure out what processors are slated to be released for SR-X though the provided fact sheets.
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/05 08:54:41 (permalink)
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They are fact sheets about the I7 2011 Socket server processors. All released data about them including all possible features.

Supporting Desktop Intel® Core™ i7-3960X Extreme Edition Processor for
the LGA-2011 Socket
Supporting Desktop Intel® Core™ i7-39xxK and i7-38xx Processor Series
for the LGA-2011 Socket

This means ALL of these processors are slotted to be usable by the SrX
And you can find everything the motherboard companies would be told these can do.


 
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/05 09:28:42 (permalink)
I don't think we are 100% understanding you, otherwise you would not be writing that?  Surely you realise this is an SR-2 forum and I will be the first to admit I have not researched greatly the new 2011 xeon chips however I would be VERY surprised if the desktop processors support multi QPI links en order to run dual cpu's. 
 
So why should this evidence you have displayed prove that over clocking will be enabled on xeon lga 2011 chips
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/05 09:51:24 (permalink)
Forgotten can 3960X run in a dual CPU board?? ie two 3960 in same board???

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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/05 09:58:57 (permalink)
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Forgotten can 3960X run in a dual CPU board?? ie two 3960 in same board???

 
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/05 10:11:04 (permalink)
I thought not!! But a shame as I have two 5.1 stable samples here. That clock amazing on water.

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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/05 10:42:21 (permalink)
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This means ALL of these processors are slotted to be usable by the SrX
This is a very wrong statement.  Core i7-900 has the same 1366 pin-out as Xeons 5500/5600 but doesn't function at all in dual-socket boards.  You can't just make the leap that because i7-3800/3900 have the same 2011 pin-out and overall technical similarity with other 2011's that they are all equally compatible with SR-X.  It is a gross oversimplification that misinforms and you're abusing the fact sheet for it. 
 
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Forgotten can 3960X run in a dual CPU board?? ie two 3960 in same board???
This thread originally started out in the X79 forums because somone assumed all LGA2011socket boards were the same and thus the CPU's can be mis-matched-- they can't; and why this thread was moved to the SR-2 subforum.  EVGA knows their own board better than any rumormill
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/05 10:46:02 (permalink)
I am aware of what the board is I was just asking about the rumour created. I have Xeon 8 Core ES in hand anyway. I wish a mod would clear up all the rumours regarding this board and its potential for clocking.
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Re:eVGA SR-3 2012/01/05 11:13:58 (permalink)
EVGA's SR-2 was the only overclockable dual-1366 board, even SuperMicro makes dual-1366 boards with as many PCIe x16 slots, so the only thing EVGA has is the ability to overclock the CPU's.  Therefore, it is very unlikely that SR-X will be castrated, per se, we won't need official say for that.
 
That said, the question is, which Xeons are unlocked; that I don't know.  But I figure similar to the approach with X79, I think only a handful will be able and possibly 8-core only -- I'm betting this since Intel already has unlocked 6-cores in X79 and unlocked quads in LGA1155.  Those that appreciate the appeal of dual-socket the most are those who can afford more, so not someone that purcahsed dual quads in SR-2 for instance.

For Intel processors, 0.122 x TDP = Continuous Amps at 12v [source].  

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