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2020/11/25 14:53:11 (permalink)
I received my XC3 Ultra today and was curious about its performance.
 
I had to buy TimeSpy on Steam for $5.00.
 
Loaded it up and it went through a few animations. I can't recall the exact score, but it was around 15,500. It said other 3080s were hitting upwards of 17k.  73C average temps. The overall picture kinda looked like ass on my 4k monitor.
 
Is this an average score for an XC3 Ultra? I have not OC'ed/Undervolted it yet as I need to perform research on how others are doing it.
 
I also loaded up Kingdom Come and had everything on Ultra. 30fps in town. Any idea why it's so low?
 
This is the first gaming PC I have ever built:
 
i7-10700k (non-oc'ed for now)
16gb DDR4 3200 RAM (8x2)
Air cooler (forget the name)
3 intake and 3 exhaust fans
Aorus z490 Pro AX Motherboard (updated to latest bios)
All Windows/software/etc updated.
3080 XC3 Ultra (updated to latest drivers and firmware via Precision)
 
I'm wondering if it could be the fact that I'm using a 60hz 4k TCL 55" t.v. as my monitor. When I enable "HDR" in Windows, the overall screen in Kingdom Come looks darker.
 
post edited by Tonyd0821 - 2020/11/25 15:39:01
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/25 15:09:24 (permalink)
Post a link to the score so we're can see the overall, GPU, and CPU score.

If you don't have 10 posts yet, you can break up the link like this: 3dmark. com/spy/15262064
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/25 15:10:52 (permalink)
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Post a link to the score so we're can see the overall, GPU, and CPU score.

If you don't have 10 posts yet, you can break up the link like this: 3dmark. com/spy/15262064


Thanks, will do and gimme a few minutes because I have to re-run it (didn't save the original one).
post edited by Tonyd0821 - 2020/11/25 15:39:54
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/25 15:31:03 (permalink)
My specs are very similar to yours:
 
i7-10700k (oc'ed to 5.2ghz all cores)
16gb DDR4 3600 RAM (8x2)
240mm Air cooler
3 intake and 2 exhausts
Asus Z490 Motherboard
3080 XC3 Ultra (OC’ Ed +100Mhz core/+550 memory  

For reference here’s my latest Time Spy score.
 
My overall score: 16,610
Graphics score: 17,896
CPU score: 11,806


Here are my scores before overclocking both the cpu and graphic card:
 
my overall score: 15,936
Graphics score: 16,957
CPU score: 11,648
 
 
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/25 15:32:31 (permalink)
arestavo
Post a link to the score so we're can see the overall, GPU, and CPU score.

If you don't have 10 posts yet, you can break up the link like this: 3dmark. com/spy/15262064



Just re-ran it and it honestly didn't look very good (the 4k benchmark--visually--while it was running, not the actual numerical results). Unsure as to why. Gut feeling is that I'm trying to make a 60hz 4k t.v. perform beyond its capabilities. 
 
Here's the link 3dmark. com/spy/15580461
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/25 15:34:38 (permalink)
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My specs are very similar to yours:
 
i7-10700k (oc'ed to 5.2ghz all cores)
16gb DDR4 3600 RAM (8x2)
240mm Air cooler
3 intake and 2 exhausts
Asus Z490 Motherboard
3080 XC3 Ultra (OC’ Ed +100Mhz core/+550 memory  

For reference here’s my latest Time Spy score.
 
My overall score: 16,610
Graphics score: 17,896
CPU score: 11,806


Here are my scores before overclocking both the cpu and graphic card:
 
my overall score: 15,936
Graphics score: 16,957
CPU score: 11,648
 
 




Thanks...So I just add +100Mhz core/+550 memory (in Precision) and it should go higher? Right now it's at 210MHz for the GPU and 405MHz for the Memory.
 
What kind of monitor are you using? I'm considering buying the LG CX 48" OLED.
 
 
edit: Do you have HDR enabled in Windows? It makes the overall screen look a tad bit darker and in games as Kingdom Come.
post edited by Tonyd0821 - 2020/11/25 15:39:38
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/25 15:52:37 (permalink)
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Post a link to the score so we're can see the overall, GPU, and CPU score.

If you don't have 10 posts yet, you can break up the link like this: 3dmark. com/spy/15262064



Just re-ran it and it honestly didn't look very good (the 4k benchmark--visually--while it was running, not the actual numerical results). Unsure as to why. Gut feeling is that I'm trying to make a 60hz 4k t.v. perform beyond its capabilities. 
 
Here's the link 3dmark. com/spy/15580461


The 16908 GPU score seems to line up with a stock 3080 XC3 from what I've seen. Just so you know, Time Spy runs at 1440P. Time Spy Extreme is the 4K benchmark. And your 4K TV will be fine - it will work with those inputs / FPS.
post edited by arestavo - 2020/11/25 15:58:39
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/25 16:02:15 (permalink)
Hi,
i think your Score is ok.
My System:
 
i9 9900K / 5Ghz allcore
32Gb DDR4 Ram 3000mhz @ 3200mhz / 16x2
Asus z390 Formula
Custom Water loop with Mora3 Radiator
3080 xc3 Ultra with EK Waterblock / core oc and mem oc only +100mhz (haven´t played much with oc)
Time Spy score:
overall: 16581
Graphics score: 17956
Cpu score: 11564
3dmark. com/3dm/53000566
 
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/25 16:03:05 (permalink)
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arestavo
Post a link to the score so we're can see the overall, GPU, and CPU score.

If you don't have 10 posts yet, you can break up the link like this: 3dmark. com/spy/15262064



Just re-ran it and it honestly didn't look very good (the 4k benchmark--visually--while it was running, not the actual numerical results). Unsure as to why. Gut feeling is that I'm trying to make a 60hz 4k t.v. perform beyond its capabilities. 
 
Here's the link 3dmark. com/spy/15580461


The 16908 GPU score seems to line up with a stock 3080 XC3 from what I've seen. Just so you know, Time Spy runs at 1440P. Time Spy Extreme is the 4K benchmark. And your 4K TV will be fine - it will work with those inputs / FPS.





Ok thanks. Now I just need to determine if the $1,500 cost of getting the LG CX OLED 48" monitor is worth it vs. my TCL (which is pretty decent for an LED TV).
 
Other than that, thanks to Jacob and everyone at EVGA!! Happy with my 3080!
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/25 16:04:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Tonyd0821 2020/11/25 16:48:17
YMMV due to the silicon lottery, but I use MSI Afterburner because Precision was too glitchy and was crashing my card. You'll have tinker around with the core values first and get a stable clock speed and then proceed with OC'ing your memory. OC'ing the memory on the 3080 series is bit tricky due to the way GDDR6X memory behaves. I kept my power curve at 100, which can increase to 107, but without some type of aftermarket cooling I didn't want to push it.
 
Keep in mind that you can actually add too much to your memory OC and it can decrease the card's overall performance, so I suggest running benchmarks like Unigine Heaven or live games while adjusting your memory in real time to monitor the effects as you adjust your memory clock speeds. Add too much and you'll notice your FPS begin dropping due to latency involved with the memory self-correcting. With the RTX 20xx series overclocking was easier because you can push the limits until the card crashed and you then back your values back down until your card was stable.
 
Good luck!
 
 Almost forgot.....I'm pushing a Lenovo 1440P/144Hz monitor. For me that's the sweet spot for Quality/Performance since I primarily play online multiplayer games.
post edited by Thorissr - 2020/11/25 16:09:24
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/25 16:49:06 (permalink)
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Post a link to the score so we're can see the overall, GPU, and CPU score.

If you don't have 10 posts yet, you can break up the link like this: 3dmark. com/spy/15262064



Just re-ran it and it honestly didn't look very good (the 4k benchmark--visually--while it was running, not the actual numerical results). Unsure as to why. Gut feeling is that I'm trying to make a 60hz 4k t.v. perform beyond its capabilities. 
 
Here's the link 3dmark. com/spy/15580461


The 16908 GPU score seems to line up with a stock 3080 XC3 from what I've seen. Just so you know, Time Spy runs at 1440P. Time Spy Extreme is the 4K benchmark. And your 4K TV will be fine - it will work with those inputs / FPS.





Thanks. TimeSpy recommended I run that one...is there a way to run the Extreme one? No wonder the graphics looked crappy. They were at 1440p.
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/25 19:18:13 (permalink)
2085 mhz core 10900 mhz memory.
How are you getting such low scores?

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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/25 20:16:40 (permalink)
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2085 mhz core 10900 mhz memory.
How are you getting such low scores?



Is that memory on the graphics card? I have no clue.
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/26 03:03:47 (permalink)
Did you check power draw ?
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/26 05:13:31 (permalink)
Up to 450w with the beta bios. it's a ftw3 ultra.
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/26 05:58:43 (permalink)
For reference, here is my 3080 FTW3 Ultra, XOC bios, +150 GPU, +200 Mem running on a Aorus x570 Master, 5950x w/PBO + Auto OC, 64gb 3800mhz 16-16-16-16 RAM, 1tb Sabarent, all under a custom loop watercooled outputting to a C9 HDR 4k w/HDR enabled:
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/15566459
 
Score: 18499
Graphics: 19231
CPU:  15217
 
Just waiting for PBO2, and either a water block for the 3080 or a 3090 Kingping HC to finish the build up.
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/26 06:11:43 (permalink)
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2085 mhz core 10900 mhz memory.
How are you getting such low scores?



OP isn't getting 2085/10900 - He is getting averages of:
GPU-1755
MEM-1162
 
Here is his link since he can't post it yet:  https://www.3dmark.com/spy/15580461
 
For compairison my GPU averages are:
GPU - 2092
MEM - 1189
 
My GPU score is 19231:  https://www.3dmark.com/spy/15566459 
 
A little math says my FTW3 Ultra XOC is clocking 19% higher than his XC3 and my graphics score is 14% higher than his.  His score doesn't seem out of line.  And HDR isn't going to impact the score at all OP.  
post edited by Dyezak - 2020/11/26 06:14:08
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/26 08:07:53 (permalink)
I have +70 core and +1400 memory.
I can go as high as +150 on core and it stable except in one game. Call of duty crashes after an hour or so of gameplay with anything higher then +70 core. Only call of duty for some reason.
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/26 10:39:07 (permalink)
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Did you check power draw ?




No, how do I do that?
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/26 10:40:02 (permalink)
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I have +70 core and +1400 memory.
I can go as high as +150 on core and it stable except in one game. Call of duty crashes after an hour or so of gameplay with anything higher then +70 core. Only call of duty for some reason.



Somewhat in the same position...I can up my core clock to +150 however it's not stable in the one game I play 90% of the time. All other games I don't CTD, so I dialed my core clock back to +100 core because that's the highest I can go without the card crashing in that one game. Driver related?
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/26 10:40:11 (permalink)
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2085 mhz core 10900 mhz memory.
How are you getting such low scores?

 
A little math says my FTW3 Ultra XOC is clocking 19% higher than his XC3 and my graphics score is 14% higher than his.  His score doesn't seem out of line.  And HDR isn't going to impact the score at all OP.  




Holy crap...so that means I should immediately sign up for the "step up" program to get the FTW3? I originally wanted the FTW3...but no clue why I signed up for the XC3 Ultra. Think I did it on a whim, not expecting EVGA to step up to the plate to help us out with the notify system they implemented.
 
I only game in 4k and this is for Microsoft Flight, COD BOCW, and Cyberpunk.
 
I am getting some minor screen tears on COD BOCW....already enabled the things that help reduce that. Could probably be due in part to my TCL 55" t.v. being repurposed as a computer monitor.
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/26 13:43:15 (permalink)
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I have +70 core and +1400 memory.
I can go as high as +150 on core and it stable except in one game. Call of duty crashes after an hour or so of gameplay with anything higher then +70 core. Only call of duty for some reason.



Somewhat in the same position...I can up my core clock to +150 however it's not stable in the one game I play 90% of the time. All other games I don't CTD, so I dialed my core clock back to +100 core because that's the highest I can go without the card crashing in that one game. Driver related?

I don't think it's driver related. Cod was the only game crashing with my 1080ti overclock too.
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2020/11/26 13:51:15 (permalink)
I'm getting around mid 16,000 with the XC3 Ultra with no adjustments. Maybe it also has to do with the rest of your system, like if your motherboard has PCIe 4.0
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2021/02/05 07:24:43 (permalink)
I also have the XC3 Ultra with no adjustments. My temps are really high (74C during Timespy) so I haven't made any overclocks using X1. 
 
Score: 14,041
Graphics: 16,438
CPU: 7,690
 
I'm also a bit disappointed in my score. For me, it's really obvious my CPU is holding me back. I had to remove my overclock because the pump on my AIO died and I'm using a crappy old cooler for the time being since everything I want is out of stock. 
 
Your Graphics score seems fine to me. The XC3 Ultra is a really mediocre card compared to some of the other 3080s. I believe the 3DMark comparison includes all 3080 models so a lot of people with Asus cards will be kicking our butts. 
 
You're on z490, while I'm on z370. There should be very minimal differences between chipsets since neither has PCIe 4.0. 
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Re: XC3 Ultra Time Spy--is this a low score? 2021/02/05 07:35:07 (permalink)
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I also have the XC3 Ultra with no adjustments. My temps are really high (74C during Timespy) so I haven't made any overclocks using X1. 
 
Score: 14,041
Graphics: 16,438
CPU: 7,690
 
I'm also a bit disappointed in my score. For me, it's really obvious my CPU is holding me back. I had to remove my overclock because the pump on my AIO died and I'm using a crappy old cooler for the time being since everything I want is out of stock. 
 
Your Graphics score seems fine to me. The XC3 Ultra is a really mediocre card compared to some of the other 3080s. I believe the 3DMark comparison includes all 3080 models so a lot of people with Asus cards will be kicking our butts. 
 
You're on z490, while I'm on z370. There should be very minimal differences between chipsets since neither has PCIe 4.0. 




That's a totally normal score for stock power level, no OC and warm temps.  You can pick up about +15% with good cooling, more power and a solid OC.
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