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2016/03/31 10:48:50 (permalink)
Hi all. I've been prowling this forum for a few days now looking for answers to a few issues I'm having, but without success. Maybe there are some knowledgeable heads that can help me out.
 

This is a new build, although I've had the board in it's box since last June while I've collected the other components for assembly. I've tried all Bios's versions available (multiple times) and these problems manifest themselves across all of them. Windows 10 was installed using UEFI boot options with CSM disabled, M.2 enabled, M.2 S2/S3 compatibility disabled.
 

First issue: CPU voltage adjustment.
The board will not save CPU voltage adjustments from within the Bios. I've tried adjusting Adaptive, Override and Auto, but when I return to the Bios having saved and reset, the CPU voltage is still stock.
 
For example, as per EVGA_JacobF's pinned "Quick Overclocking Guide": If I dial in a +125 CPU Offset and set the Multiplier to 42, when I save and reset the PC "hangs" at the Bios screen. However, I can see that the Multiplier has saved at 42 but the voltage is still stock (1.022 or thereabouts), hence the hang. Cmos reset is then necessary to regain functionality. If I just change the CPU offset to +125 and leave the Multiplier alone, on reset I get stock voltage (even though the CPU Offset still says +125).
 
The caveat to this is a bit odd. If I leave all settings at stock and boot into Win 10, I can successfully manipulate the voltage using the EVGA E-Leet software. If I then immediately restart and enter the Bios I can change and save CPU Voltages as I please and the changes stick. This works right up until a Cmos reset is required, after that the bios will again not save CPU Voltage changes until I have made and applied a change in E-Leet.
 
Second Issue: Profiles
For me the Profiles work up to a point, that point being a Cmos reset. After a CMOS reset the saved profiles are still there but don't work. A saved stock Profile (M.2 drive and Boot order set up, but no changes to Multipliers and Voltages) will function after a Cmos reset, but any further attempt to tweak settings from that point and the PC hangs on reboot (usually with a Post Code of 67 iirc). Any Profiles containing overclocked settings will hang on reboot, requiring another Cmos reset. All profiles saved to USB will not load after a Cmos reset (citing incompatible version).
 
Any tips or advice would be welcome, even if that is "RMA the board". After a week of tweaking and scratching my head, I could use a fresh perspective and a little help.
post edited by weirdbeard12 - 2016/03/31 10:54:44

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    Re: X99 Micro 2 Bios Issues 2016/03/31 13:33:37 (permalink)
    Hello and welcome to the forums.  Couple questions to get started, what CPU are you running, what BIOS are you running and what RAM do you have?
    I have a sticky as well with a form that is there to provide all the info needed for EVGA Techs like myself or the numerous helpful members here to provide you with complete answers and hopefully get you up and running faster.
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    Re: X99 Micro 2 Bios Issues 2016/03/31 16:21:13 (permalink)
    I think your PC is locking up because you aren't supplying enough voltage for that OC.  For example, it takes me 210 Adaptive voltage for a steady OC of 4.4Ghz on the same CPU but don't forget, all our CPUs react differently to OCs.  Some have better OCs than others, etc.

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    Re: X99 Micro 2 Bios Issues 2016/03/31 17:48:50 (permalink)
    Hello DaveB. Apologies, I assumed you would see specifications in the signature. Here is the Template anyway.
     
    X99 Troubleshooting Template
     
    BASICS
    What EVGA X99 Motherboard do you have?  Please place an X between the parentheses of the model number you are referencing.
     
    ()  131-HE-E995                       (X)  131-HE-E095                       ()  150-HE-E997                      
    ()  151-HE-E999
     
    What BIOS revision are you running on? 
     1.03
    What previous BIOS revisions have been tried?
     1.00, 1.01, 1.02.
    (IF APPLICABLE) have the other physical BIOS’s been tested?
    *NOTE*  Not all motherboards have this switch and depending on the model there can be a 2 or 3 position BIOS switch.  Please see the manuals for the specific boards here:
    X99 Classified:  go to page 8, number 33 on the mid right side of the board just below the 24 pin.
    X99 FTW:  go to page 8, number 30 on the mid right side of the board just below the 24 pin.
    X99 Micro2, and X99 Micro do not have multiple BIOS’s
     N/A
    What Operating system are you running?  Be sure to specify Standard, Pro, Ultimate, and 32 or 64bit.
     Windows 10 Home.
    Components -Internal
    What specific model CPU do you have? Intel i7 5930K (Stepping 2, Revision M0)
                Is it overclocked?  Please place an X next to appropriate answer.    Yes: (X)  No: ()
                If you are overclocked, what speed is the CPU running at? 4.5 Ghz
    What cooling solution is installed?  If it is water cooled, specify make and model of All-In-One kit (for instance H100i), or FULL specs and order of components in the custom loop.
    Custom Loop
    EK Supremacy EVO X99 - Nickel
    EK EK-FC Titan X Full  waterblock with EK Backplate.
    Phobya Balancer 150 Reservoir
    EK-XTOP DDC 3.2 PWM Elite pump
    1 x HW Labs Black Ice Nemesis GTS Xflow 240mm Radiator
    1 x HW Labs Black Ice Nemesis GTS Xflow 280mm Radiator
    3 x EK Varder F2-140mm fans
    2 x EK Varder F2-120mm fans
    Barrow fittings.
    Thermaltake V_Tubler 16mm PETG Tubing
    Loop order: Reservoir > Pump > Rad 1 > Rad 2 > GPU > CPU > Reservoir 
    What are your temperatures, in Celsius, for CPU and GPU both at idle and under load in a benchmark?
    CPU: 35/81
    GPU: 31/41
    What bench marking software are you using?
    Intel Extreme Tuning Utility
    Prime 95 (vers. 26.6)
    3dMark Firestrike
     
    What specific model of memory do you have? Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 3000 Mhz  4x4Gb (CMD16GX4M4B3000C15)
                How many kits of memory? 1
                Is it overclocked?  Please place an X next to appropriate answer.    Yes: (X)  No: ()
                If you have tested DIFFERENT memory, please supply the full model for this as well. N/A
     
    What specific model of Power Supply Unit (PSU) EVGA Supernova 850 G2
                Do you actively use more than 1 PSU in your system?  Yes: ()  No: (X)
                If YES to the previous question, what exact model?
                Have you tested with a different PSU?  Yes: ()  No: (X)
                If YES to the previous question, what exact model?
                How old are the PSU(s) in question? New
                Check all attached MOTHERBOARD power headers:
                (X) 24 Pin           (X) 8pin EPS 1    () 8pin EPS2     () 6pin PCIE on bottom of motherboard
    *If the EPS is plugged in and the release is not on the same side as the tab on the MB EPS header, then you likely have a PCIE 8 pin header plugged in.  Detach immediately and do NOT power on as this may cause irreparable damage.**
    EPS connector is shown page 8 number 29, there is a tab on the top that the clip of a power cable holds onto.  You can see a more clear picture of the cable here:   page 7.  The tab on the socket and the release on the cable have to click over each other.  If not, please get a picture and post it in your troubleshooting thread and we will assist further, do NOT turn it on if these are not aligned.
     
    Check the slots that are populated and provide specific of Component, brand, part number if available of the item present.  If the slot is NOT populated please list it as “Empty”, “Unused”, or something to give clear indication that a slot is NOT in use, so there is no grey area in the configuration.
    Not all slots are applicable to every board, but this form covers the entire chipset.
    The slot listings below are counting ALL slots of 1x, 4x, and 16x from top to bottom, this is not only for the full size slots.
     
    Note: PCI-E 1 is ALWAYS the slot closest to the CPU, and the numbers count up as you move down the board.
     
    ()  PCI-E 1: EVGA Titan X (12G-P4-2990-KR)
                PCI-E Disable Switch in the ON position?  Yes: ()  No: (X)
     
    ()  PCI-E 2: Empty
                PCI-E Disable Switch in the ON position?  Yes: ()  No: (X)
     
    ()  PCI-E 3: Empty
                PCI-E Disable Switch in the ON position?  Yes: ()  No: ()
     
    ()  PCI-E 4: N/A
                PCI-E Disable Switch in the ON position?  Yes: ()  No: ()
     
    ()  PCI-E 5: N/A
                PCI-E Disable Switch in the ON position?  Yes: ()  No: ()
     
    ()  PCI-E 6: N/A
                PCI-E Disable Switch in the ON position?  Yes: ()  No: ()
     
    ()  M.2 Key M: (Typically used for SSD's)
                Enabled in BIOS?  Yes: (X)  No: ()
     
    ()  M.2 Key E: (Typically used for smaller  devices such as WiFi cards)
                Enabled in BIOS?  Yes: ()  No: ()
     
    ()  SATA3/6g RAID Ports (please elaborate on RAID settings if present): Unused
                Is Hot Swap enabled on populated ports?  Yes: ()  No: ()
     
    ()  SATA3/6g AHCI Ports: Unused
                Is Hot Swap enabled on populated ports?  Yes: ()  No: ()
     
    If you are overclocking your video card(s), please include what software and what version you are using.
    EVGA Precision X (Ver. 5.3.10)
     
    Components – I/O Panel
    Check the slots that are populated and provide specific of Component, brand, part number if available of the item present.
    Not all slots are applicable to every board, but this form covers the entire chipset.
     
    All rear IO that have multiple connectors, such as USB, are counted top to bottom, left to right.
     
    ()  USB 2.0 1:
     
    ()  USB 2.0 2: 
     
    (X)  USB 2.0 3: Logitech G500s mouse
     
    (X)  USB 2.0 4: Logitech G510 keyboard
     
    ()  USB 2.0 5: 
     
    ()  USB 2.0 6: 
     
    ()  USB 3.0 1: 
     
    ()  USB 3.0 2: 
     
    ()  USB 3.0 3: 
     
    ()  USB 3.0 4: 
     
    ()  USB 3.1 Type C: 
     
    (X)  CAT5 1 (enabled/disabled in BIOS): 
     
    ()  CAT5 2 (enabled/disabled in BIOS): 
     
    ()  Analog Audio headers (standard 2 /2.1 speakers or headphones use green):
     
    ()  Optical Out
     
    Components – Front Panel Headers
    Check the components that are in use and provide specific of Component, brand, part number, or link (such as a 5.25 bay that has USB 2/3/eSATA on it) if available of the item present.  Also what are these ports plugged into?  A straight header (such as a power switch or front headphone and mic ports), or a component with its own PCB (for instance the module on the top of a CM Cosmos Case where the components are attached to a PCB with other components involved for additional function). 
    Not all slots are applicable to every board, but this form covers the entire chipset.
     
    At any header are you using some intermediary cabling, such as: for example?  If the system was working and can no longer power on and there is a third party cable between the motherboard and its intended device, it would be advisable to test without it being present.
     
    (X)  Power Switch
                LED in use?  Yes: (X)  No: ()
                If yes, have you verified +/- in correct place? Yes
               
    ()  Reset Switch
                LED in use?  Yes: ()  No: (X)
                If yes, have you verified +/- in correct place?
     
    ()  USB 2.0 FP Header attached
     
    (X)  USB 3.0 FP Header attached
     
    ()  S/PDIF Header
     
    (X)  FP Audio Header
     
    ()  Thunderbolt GPIO Header
     
     
    BIOS
    Have you changed anything in the BIOS?  Yes: (X)  No: ()
                If yes, are these basic settings such as boot order, raid enabling, XMP, etc.? No
     
    Is your PC running in Legacy BIOS mode, or UEFI mode?  If you are unsure, go into the BIOS, under BOOT,  go to CSM Configuration and list all of the settings in that menu.
    UEFI mode
    Have you overclocked?  Yes: (X)  No: ()
    Please go over EXACT setting changes from stock on the BIOS.
    Boot Mode - UEFI
    CSM - disabled
    M2 slot - enabled
    Fan profiles trimmed.
    (save and restart)
    CPU Multiplier Control - Manual
    CPU Multiplier Setting - x45
    CPU Voltage More - Adaptive
    CPU Offset Voltage +250
    (save and restart)
    Memory Frequency - 3200
    DIMM Voltage (Ch0/1) - 1.35v
    DIMM Voltage (Ch2/3) - 1.35v
     
     
    Please include EVERY voltage adjustment and value/frequency that was changed, and what it was changed to.
     
    Have yo tried resetting the BIOS, either by one of the BIOS reset buttons or by Loading Defaults from within the BIOS? Yes
     
    If you have a pic hosting account, for instance at flickr or something else of that nature, full pics of your BIOS, or at least what you have changed being posted here then linking to the album could be VERY helpful as well. 
    I don't have that facility atm, sorry.
    Problem description
    Board will not save CPU voltage settings from within bios after a Cmos reset.
    Saved bios profiles are useless after a Cmos reset.
    (Please see original post for details)
    Please be as specific as possible
     
     

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    Re: X99 Micro 2 Bios Issues 2016/03/31 18:16:15 (permalink)
    Hey there Jack. Perhaps I didn't describe the problem very well, my apologies. The 4.2 O/C was just an illustration of an attempt at any overclock.  After a Cmos reset I can't save any CPU voltage adjustments in the bios (nor does the Auto setting scale with the multiplier). Things were locking up a lot before I realised this, and my mojo was low. However, If I let windows boot with stock settings and apply a change to the CPU voltage in E-Leet I can reboot to bios and changes to the CPU Voltage work again. Until the next cmos reset.
     
    Edit: Edit: I understand what you mean Jack. I like to start with Auto, if its stable I start winding back the voltages (looking for a 24/7 solution). I'm down to 4.5 1.3 atm from 4.5 1.35 on auto. Still testing ;)
    post edited by weirdbeard12 - 2016/03/31 18:34:34

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    Re: X99 Micro 2 Bios Issues 2016/04/02 11:37:48 (permalink)
    Ok, I've narrowed this down a bit. It seems that the board will not accept any CPU Voltage adjustments until I have booted into windows at least once (forget the Eleet software, it was a red herring).
     
    I set up a Photobucket account and I'll try and explain the problem with pictures (I hope this works!)
     
    This after a Cmos reset, Normal so far:

     
    Attempting to change the CPU voltage from Auto to Adaptive +250:

     
    Save and reset:

     
    Note that after the reset, the CPU Offset Voltage indicates +250 offset, but the CPU Voltage still says 1.022 (stock)

     
    At this point I saved and reset 5 times to ensure consistency and the result was exactly the same.
     
    So I set up the boot drive:

     
     
    And booted into windows, just once.

     
    A reboot gave "checksum error - Press F12 to enter Setup". Which I did, and just saved and rebooted.
    But notice that now the +250 offset has been registered and the CPU Voltage indicates 1.272v.

     
    Not only that, but now my profile will boot again:

     
     
    So, is anyone able to explain why I need to enter the OS before I can adjust the CPU voltage or load a profile? Is there some weird voodoo going on between X99 and Win 10 that I'm not aware of? Is the board faulty? If I have to RMA for this I will, but only to swap for another X99 Micro 2 (It's great once I've jumped through the hoops to get it working)
     
    Thanks for reading this far.
    WB
     
     
    post edited by weirdbeard12 - 2016/04/02 11:49:10

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    Re: X99 Micro 2 Bios Issues 2016/04/02 13:44:44 (permalink)
    Your RAM isn't installed correctly.  They should be in slots 1-3-5-7, iirc.

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    Re: X99 Micro 2 Bios Issues 2016/04/02 17:21:20 (permalink)
    All slots are populated gtxjackbauer. Only 4 slots on the Micro 2.

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    Re: X99 Micro 2 Bios Issues 2016/04/02 17:40:52 (permalink)
    My apologies.  Totally missed that it was a Mirco 2 and not a EATX board.

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    Re: X99 Micro 2 Bios Issues 2016/04/02 18:01:00 (permalink)
    See Below Post: http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2465529
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    Re: X99 Micro 2 Bios Issues 2016/04/02 18:18:44 (permalink)
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    So, is anyone able to explain why I need to enter the OS before I can adjust the CPU voltage or load a profile?
    WB


    Could it be because you are using Adaptive and CPU Offset Voltage?
    It takes time to learn a Bios and Even Longer to Learn how to Overclock in the Bios
     
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    Re: X99 Micro 2 Bios Issues 2016/04/03 05:41:07 (permalink)
    gtxjackbauer - No worries, easy thing to miss.
     
    bcavnaugh - I wish it were that simple, but unfortunately not. The result is the same with Override and Auto (Auto does not scale up with multiplier increments), but thank you for the suggestion. 
    I agree, it does take time to learn a Bios. I prefer Bios overclocking to software overclocking, because that's what I'm familiar with after 15 or 16 years doing it. I usually work alone and enjoy the challenge, but I'm humble enough to seek help when I'm stumped. In this case I'm stumped. 
     

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