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2017/05/29 02:30:19 (permalink)
With x299 and x399 cpu coming out it looks like it supports 8 ram ddr4 slots. A question to raise with having a faster cpu will ram companies venture into making 256gb (8 X 32) ram? Will new x299/x399 mobo's be able to handle 256gb  (8 X 32) ram?
 
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/29 03:52:50 (permalink)
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    With x299 and x399 cpu coming out it looks like it supports 8 ram ddr4 slots. A question to raise with having a faster cpu will ram companies venture into making 256gb (8 X 32) ram? Will new x299/x399 mobo's be able to handle 256gb  (8 X 32) ram?
     


    Gamers would never need that amount of ram and secondly the cost would be enormous. 64GB is more than enough and so is 32GB. Looks like official release might be tomorrow so hopefully more info and news at that time.

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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/29 04:06:01 (permalink)
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    With x299 and x399 cpu coming out it looks like it supports 8 ram ddr4 slots. A question to raise with having a faster cpu will ram companies venture into making 256gb (8 X 32) ram? Will new x299/x399 mobo's be able to handle 256gb  (8 X 32) ram?
     


    Gamers would never need that amount of ram and secondly the cost would be enormous. 64GB is more than enough and so is 32GB. Looks like official release might be tomorrow so hopefully more info and news at that time.


    Funny enough, I had ARK shut down saying it was using too much memory last night.. I am on 32gb of ram. Wonder if that is what people are saying when they say that gamers would never need 32... because I definitely ran out in one game that is nowhere near optimized..

    P.s. ark is terrible, dont play it, lol.
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/29 08:17:27 (permalink)
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    With x299 and x399 cpu coming out it looks like it supports 8 ram ddr4 slots. A question to raise with having a faster cpu will ram companies venture into making 256gb (8 X 32) ram? Will new x299/x399 mobo's be able to handle 256gb  (8 X 32) ram?
     


    Gamers would never need that amount of ram and secondly the cost would be enormous. 64GB is more than enough and so is 32GB. Looks like official release might be tomorrow so hopefully more info and news at that time.


     
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    too much is never enough! 128 is still not enough!!
     
    WHAT NO X299 listed yet on the product list!!
    i'm going with MSI this time!!!
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/29 09:16:11 (permalink)
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    With x299 and x399 cpu coming out it looks like it supports 8 ram ddr4 slots. A question to raise with having a faster cpu will ram companies venture into making 256gb (8 X 32) ram? Will new x299/x399 mobo's be able to handle 256gb  (8 X 32) ram?
     


    Gamers would never need that amount of ram and secondly the cost would be enormous. 64GB is more than enough and so is 32GB. Looks like official release might be tomorrow so hopefully more info and news at that time.


     
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    too much is never enough! 128 is still not enough!!
     
    WHAT NO X299 listed yet on the product list!!
    i'm going with MSI this time!!!


    so MSI has x299 listed in their product list? 
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/29 10:30:50 (permalink)
    funny thing my computer is shutting off to at 32gb ram now LMAO I was thinking of upgrading to 128gb ram until I found out x299 was coming out I decided to hold off till we see. I want to see the mobo specs to see the amount of ram supported before I decided if I'll buy the mobo and cpu and hold off on ram upgrade again. It'll be a long way off before we see ddr5 ram in are computers though. 
     
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/29 11:35:56 (permalink)
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    With x299 and x399 cpu coming out it looks like it supports 8 ram ddr4 slots. A question to raise with having a faster cpu will ram companies venture into making 256gb (8 X 32) ram? Will new x299/x399 mobo's be able to handle 256gb  (8 X 32) ram?
     


    Gamers would never need that amount of ram and secondly the cost would be enormous. 64GB is more than enough and so is 32GB. Looks like official release might be tomorrow so hopefully more info and news at that time.


    Funny enough, I had ARK shut down saying it was using too much memory last night.. I am on 32gb of ram. Wonder if that is what people are saying when they say that gamers would never need 32... because I definitely ran out in one game that is nowhere near optimized..

    P.s. ark is terrible, dont play it, lol.



    Some people thought i was crazy to go with 32GB. 
     
    I have ARK but only played it for like 10mins.
     
     


     
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/29 17:08:01 (permalink)
    To me it looks like the current trend with x299 mobo's is maxed out at 128gb ram. I think the price point right now may be to much. I know corsair does max 32gb (1 X 32) ram but I think we're looking price point wise around 2k to possibly even 3k. I think their trying to appeal to the gaming market mostly hence why when I post on ram manufacturing sites like gskills there is nothing but crickets there. 
     
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    I know that when I was checking out the ddr4 ram on new egg every so often it got as low as $700 which would suggest no one was buying. I don't think the massive ram was a good sell because next generation mobo's cut back on ram storage and increased on cpu power. For me personally this seems to be a good upgrade to jump from the X99 mobo to the x299. I don't have the cpu power to handle 128gb ram and to upgrade the cpu to handle the ram it's going to cost around $1,000 and my guess the next generation cpu's will be faster and around that price point as well so just jump for a completely new mobo/cpu upgrade as well. we'll see how much these cpu's will cost though. 
    post edited by Frogpad - 2017/05/29 17:14:32
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/30 18:59:21 (permalink)
    Look at this sexy beast from evga
     
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/30 19:12:55 (permalink)
    A gskill admin pretty much said 256gb ram won't happen anytime soon. gskill was first to the market when releasing 128gb ram sticks (16X8) to the market for X99. I think they lost out a bit on that. Possibly when ddr5 comes out which will not be soon we'll get 256gb ram in next gen mobo's. I might go and bother corsair to see if they have something in the works. 
     
     
       
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/30 21:34:51 (permalink)
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    too much is never enough! 128 is still not enough!!
     
    WHAT NO X299 listed yet on the product list!!
    i'm going with MSI this time!!!


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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/30 21:48:33 (permalink)
     
     
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/31 13:32:18 (permalink)
    when can i preorder X299 FTW-K
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/31 19:27:05 (permalink)
    I think I will wait a month or so and see what happens

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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/05/31 20:38:37 (permalink)
    I would wait till we see what amd x399/x390has to offer. My guess intel will have price adjustments which could benefit consumers. I've been reading articles where amd is going to release a cheaper and competitive 20/18 core processor. We're talking with the price range of $1,500 to $1,300. I'm going to hold out. I think mobo manufacturer need to hold out as well at least to look after consumers. People are willing to splurge their money on stuff to fast and intel knows this. we need to sit and what i suspect wait for the process to drop with the x299 cpu's or go with amd's x399/x390 cpu's... 
     
    As far as ram goes corsair is being a bit wishy washy on if it's even possibly to go 256gb right now.
     
     With x299 and x399 coming out
     
    http://forum.corsair.com/./showthread.php?t=168230
     
     
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/06/03 22:38:29 (permalink)
    Im curious whats holding them back on this? I have had 32 gig sticks in my servers for close to 2 years now (albiet ungodly expensive) my dell rep has been telling me that 64gig sticks are populating the server lines now with some having 128gig sticks available, and I know the controller on one of my servers shows that the max memory is 64gig per slot.
     
    So if it is possible on a server to have up to 128gb per slot, why not desktop? I know servers have further ECC and Registered options, but doesn't it all follow the same DDR4 set of standards?

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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/06/05 14:12:21 (permalink)
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    Im curious whats holding them back on this? I have had 32 gig sticks in my servers for close to 2 years now (albiet ungodly expensive) my dell rep has been telling me that 64gig sticks are populating the server lines now with some having 128gig sticks available, and I know the controller on one of my servers shows that the max memory is 64gig per slot.
     
    So if it is possible on a server to have up to 128gb per slot, why not desktop? I know servers have further ECC and Registered options, but doesn't it all follow the same DDR4 set of standards?




    Most likely cut down or sub par IMCs in commercial CPU's.  Enterprise level CPU's like the Xeons are usually binned with that kind of stuff in mind.  If I remember correctly, overclocking stability is somewhat affected by the amount of RAM installed with the memory controllers being the Achilles heel in a lot of instances so the flip side of the coin would be you may be able to get 256gb ram at the sacrifice of overclocking potential.  Another reason is why have that much ram for intensive workloads with no ECC benefits?  I guess RAM drive is a reason to have that much but that is limited in functionality on the non enterprise front from what I understand.
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/06/05 14:21:06 (permalink)
    After thinking about my personal experience in building a X99 computer I think if things turn out to be true I will be going the x399 route. The X99 route seemed rushed and honestly no one really fully understood the bloody edge hardware supported by these beasts (and still are beast). From the rumor mill x399 cpu is way more affordable/competitive compare to the intel cpu's. I told my hardware friends my thoughts on the X299 and the X399 and I honestly prefer to have a piece of hardware that has been fine tuned/you know what you're getting than something in the beta phases. I specifically got a evga mobo/gpu because I thought evga has the best support for their products based on what I saw on the forum. However EVGA is intel exclusive company and they probably won't make a X399 evga mobo unless they have too. 
     
    I honestly felt the X99's were always in that beta phases never were exactly well polished from a hardware spec compatibility standpoint. If Amd's x399 can meet my expectation of it being affordable and it feeling well polished then that's the route I'll go. If Amd does not meet those two expectations I'll be running back to intel in a flash until then consider me X399 until said otherwise. 
     
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/06/05 14:29:50 (permalink)
    TBH X299 is really going down a weird and confusing path.  With the commercial CPU line up starting as i5's up through the new i9 it looks like Intel is reverting back to the socket 775 days where it was the same socket between the "high end" boards and the low end 775 socket boards.  I don't know why they would have done that.  It kind of breaks the whole enterprise/workstation level boards and commercial level board differentiation they have maintained since the X58-1366/P55-1156 era.
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    Re: With x299 and x399 coming out 2017/06/09 13:31:26 (permalink)
    no need for 256gb now, but give it time, back 10 years ago 2gb was enough and 4gb was just picking up steam, and people with 6-8gb seemed wasteful
     
    20 years ago a normal system had 32-64mb with 128mb or more seemed wasteful, so give it another 10 years and yes we will be using 256gb of ram in everyday systems maybe.
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