Ok guys, i need some advise
Ive gotten my 4.2 OC stable using With and Without Vdroop
Please look at my templates and tell me which one is safer.


4.2 Ghz With Vdroop


Mother Board ( EVGA X58 SLI Vanilla )      
Drivers ( )      
Bios (  )      
CPU ( 920 D0 ) (with 920's please also add the stepping CO or DO)      
CPU Cooler ( Megahalems )      
Memory ( Gskill Pi 1600 8-8-8-24)      
PSU ( HX850W Corsair )      
GPU ( GTX275)      
Drivers (191.07)      
Operating System ( Windows 7 64 Ultimate. )      

Frequency Control       
CPU Clock Ratio ( 20X )      
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 201 ) 
MCH Strap ( Auto )      
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( 16x )      
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )      
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )      
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 101 )      


Memory Feature         
Memory Speed ( Standard )      
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )      
Memory Frequency ( 1067Mhz / 2:8 )      
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )      
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )      
Memory Low Gap ( Auto )      
tCL Setting ( 8 )      
tRCD Setting ( 8 )      
tRP Setting ( 8 )      
tRAS Setting ( 24 )      
tRFC Setting ( 88  )      
Command Rate ( 1t )      


Voltage Control       
EVGA VDroop Control ( With VDroop )      
CPU VCore ( 1.41875 )      
CPU VTT Voltage ( +225 )      
CPU PLL VCore ( 1.650 )      
DIMM Voltage ( 1.650 )      
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )      
QPI PLL VCore (1.300v)      
IOH VCore ( 1.300v )      
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto )          
ICH VCore ( Auto )      
*PWM Frequency ( 800KHz )      


CPU Feature       
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )      
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )      
CxE Function ( Disabled )      
Execute Disable Bit ( Enabled )      
Virtualization Technology ( Enabled )      
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )      
Active Processor Cores ( All )      
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )      
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )      
QPI Frequency Selection ( 4.8GT/s )      
OC Recorvery ( Enabled )     



4.2 Ghz  Without Vdroop  


Mother Board ( EVGA X58 SLI Vanilla )      
Drivers ( )      
Bios (  )      
CPU ( 920 D0 ) (with 920's please also add the stepping CO or DO)      
CPU Cooler ( Megahalems )      
Memory ( Gskill Pi 1600 8-8-8-24)      
PSU ( HX850W Corsair )      
GPU ( GTX275)      
Drivers (191.07)      
Operating System ( Windows 7 64 Ultimate. )      

Frequency Control       
CPU Clock Ratio ( 20X )      
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 201 ) 
MCH Strap ( Auto )      
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( 16x )      
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )      
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )      
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 100 )      


Memory Feature         
Memory Speed ( Standard )      
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )      
Memory Frequency ( 1067Mhz / 2:8 )      
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )      
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )      
Memory Low Gap ( Auto )      
tCL Setting ( 8 )      
tRCD Setting ( 8 )      
tRP Setting ( 8 )      
tRAS Setting ( 24 )      
tRFC Setting ( 78  )      
Command Rate ( 1t )      


Voltage Control       
EVGA VDroop Control ( Without VDroop )      
CPU VCore ( 1.35625 )      
CPU VTT Voltage ( +300 )      
CPU PLL VCore ( 1.675 )      
DIMM Voltage ( 1.650 )      
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )      
QPI PLL VCore (1.275v)      
IOH VCore ( 1.275v )      
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto )          
ICH VCore ( Auto )      
*PWM Frequency ( 800KHz )      


CPU Feature       
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )      
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )      
CxE Function ( Disabled )      
Execute Disable Bit ( Enabled )      
Virtualization Technology ( Enabled )      
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )      
Active Processor Cores ( All )      
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )      
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )      
QPI Frequency Selection ( 4.8GT/s )      
OC Recorvery ( Enabled )     


It seems to me the With Vdroop OC is much more stubborn at took alot more Vcore.
Am i safer without?

You think?
Becasue As far as i can tell at load (without) is about 1.38 and hasnt gone over 1.4
Whereas (with) is over that to start....

However my temps are slightly better (with)....but only by 1 degree.

Here i fond this on a different thread posted by dentnu... you are more stable with it on and its better for the cpu in the long run. with or not with you will have the same load voltage because thats what the cpu needs to run at that speed. you may be able to use slightly lower voltage with beacuse it dosn't dip to much wich can lead to a crash



with Vdroop 
 
  
Without Vdroop 
  
 

yea but you need to look at load voltage, that is when you are drawing the amps that can harm it. high idle voltages don't matter as much becuase the cpu has a higher resistance at low load so you are not drawing many amps and eather way your voltage is the same when you are at full load, the vdoop function just changes how it gets there

Idle temps will increase with Vdroop enabled(more Vcore), but load temps will come down.
Without Vdroop idle temps(less Vcore) will decrease, but load temps will be higher.

I have been running both my machine "without" vdroop for almost a year, no problems. Hell, it wasn't that long ago we were all ****ing about not having that feature in the bios, so we would make pencil marks to STOP the droop. Who knows...lol

OK well
(with Vdroop) need 1.43 Vcore to be stable  -------peaks at 1.43981
(without Vdroop) needs 1.35 Vcore. ------------peaks at 1.400123

So (with) is yielding higher temps across the board, as well as higher volts...
Anybody else having results like this?
Or am i just doing something wrong?

Just use what working best for you, there have been a lot of people saying you risk damage using without vDroop, hell you risk damage everytime you turn the computer on.....LOL.  I have not seen any one here ever report killing a CPU using without vDroop.  Is it possible?? yea, but so are a million other things.  I know a lot of people here (including myself) have used without vDroop for a long time with out issue, I would think if the risk of damage was as bad as some say we would see a slew of people cooking their CPU's...... Havent seen one yet.

All I know is that my higher overclocks were a lot easier to make stable using without vdroop.....

Lvcoyote

All I know is that my higher overclocks were a lot easier to make stable using without vdroop.....

+1  me too.

Lvcoyote

I think I'm going to puke if I see that ripple chart one more time.....LMAO!

+100

dave851

Here i fond this on a different thread posted by dentnu... you are more stable with it on and its better for the cpu in the long run. with or not with you will have the same load voltage because thats what the cpu needs to run at that speed. you may be able to use slightly lower voltage with beacuse it dosn't dip to much wich can lead to a crash



with Vdroop 
 
  
Without Vdroop 
  
 

did i post that?

i use them as part of my War on "Without Vdroop" x3

With Vdroop your voltage will run lower than what you have it Set at.

Without Vdroop your voltage will run at or above what you have it set at and spike quite a bit above that...

its jest better for the CPU to keep it on. even if you cant get as super high of a over clock with it on.. maybe the few extra months or a year of CPU life will be worth it?



these charts were made with the EVGA Classified motherboard. that uses 10 Phase Digital PWM. and all other evga boards use 8 or 6 Phase... so other boards will have bigger spikes and drops as far as i know.

Lvcoyote

 
I told you +100
 

I am having the same exact exerience. When i have it set with vdroop it takes more voltage to be stable overall and without I can OC my Core I7 975 to 4.3Ghz stable. Without it I am not stable and if I raise the voltage to the point were I am I overheat and thats with water cooling! I say without.