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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/19 03:42:04 (permalink)
I found having 2 fans directly beneath the GPU really helps with tempreture control and noise control, as the Noctua Fans perform well whilst having a lower acoustic value. I can confirm that long RDR2 sessions with resolution of 3440x1440@100hz averages around 70 FPS at Ultra settings with consistent 70°C being observed by the EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra (no OC on CPU or GPU just out of box settings)



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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/19 06:54:07 (permalink)
Wow, that is a great idea! Right underneath my 3080 is my PSU though, and I don't know where you would put it otherwise? I can't even see your psu! Where is it?
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/19 09:52:38 (permalink)
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Wow, that is a great idea! Right underneath my 3080 is my PSU though, and I don't know where you would put it otherwise? I can't even see your psu! Where is it?


behind the mobo, much better setup than traditional psu location

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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/19 11:10:09 (permalink)
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behind the mobo, much better setup than traditional psu location


I have to say the O11D is a truly awesome case to build in, not a massive foot print, great options for cooling, awesome cable management and very well made. Add to that the NZXT fan/RGB controller, the Z73 AIO, the noctua fans running in pairs on channels 1-3 with custom ramps for either GPU or CPU temps its a super quiet, clean build with great thermal control from a glass double sided case.


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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/19 11:15:24 (permalink)
I'm using a Corsair Carbide Air 740 case and I've got two 140mm Noctua fans mounted as bottom intakes (as well as two 140mm Noctua front intakes). They've kept all of my video cards cool so far.

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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/19 11:56:56 (permalink)
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I can confirm that long RDR2 sessions with resolution of 3440x1440@100hz averages around 70 FPS at Ultra settings...

If your average framerate is ~70 but your display is refreshing at 100Hz, you're experiencing a lot of judder. I.e. your motion is not near as smooth as it could be.
 
If your framerate never drops below 60 (or at least only does so occasionally), you want to set your refresh rate to 60Hz, and enable VSync. As long as your framerate doesn't drop below your refresh rate, you'll get zero judder, and perfectly smooth motion. If you're not familiar with this, at least do yourself the favor of testing what I advise before dismissing it!
 
In RDR2 you want to set the refresh rate at 60 simply because that's a target that you can stay above. But the concept applies to any refresh rate. This is the reason that Adaptive Sync/G-Sync was introduced--to eliminate judder by making sure that your framerate always matches your refresh rate--by reversing the sync and having the display lock to the framerate rather than vice versa.
 
When I played GTA V on a CRT, I dropped the refresh rate to 50Hz because I could maintain a framerate above 50, but not 60 (Some people may not be aware that millions of people in the world have always had displays running at 50Hz, not 60). Of course I could have gotten a much higher framerate, but I preferred "smart max" settings, and also needed a good deal of true antialiasing.
 
Also, for anyone who may read this:
 
1. VSync does not inherently introduce significant latency/lag. Only poor implementations of VSync do this.
2. VSync does not drop the framerate to 1/2, 1/3, etc. of the refresh rate. Only poor implementations of VSync do this.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/19 17:35:11 (permalink)
I have same temperature issue for FTW3 3080 as below gaming situation, Is it FTW3 3080 78°C is normal in gamng?
 
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 06:24:34 (permalink)
The GamersNexus video does make the FTW3 Ultra card seem really bad/inefficient in terms of noise/temps, even dBA & voltage normalized. And they tested open bench.
 
There's always the possibility I suppose that some cards are just bad and different conditions and testing setups, not to mention different ambient temperatures, are major factors. There's also the possibility that I'm too dumb to understand all the charts and explanations GN gave.

I'm not too concerned personally as I plan on getting a Hybrid or Kingpin. Though at the moment it does seem like the TUF is a better AIB for air cooling. The separate cooler block for the vram & the backplate actually being used probably help it a fair degree. No word on the non-Ultra FTW3's or XC3's as of yet. We'll have to wait and see as far as testing on those is concerned.

I wouldn't be too bothered. People should get whatever card they can get. It's not exactly easy to get any of these cards at the moment. Even if EVGA's 3000 series temps & cooling/noise efficiency are horrid you could always end up getting a Hybrid kit, or going with a custom loop if you don't mind the maintenance and setup headache.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 07:27:06 (permalink)
Has anyone replaced the thermal paste and ran a before and after? I have a FTW3 Ultra in the box still as I have had 0 time to get it installed. I am really curious as to how these cards will run on water or Hybrid.

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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 07:31:16 (permalink)
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Has anyone replaced the thermal paste and ran a before and after? I have a FTW3 Ultra in the box still as I have had 0 time to get it installed. I am really curious as to how these cards will run on water or Hybrid.

Yes. Apparently the difference is not perceivable.

I suspected in this thread that the thermal paste was the problem, but apparently that is not the case.

See this thread for more details:
https://forums.evga.com/E...al-paste-m3121869.aspx

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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 07:57:07 (permalink)
I just looked at the frame chasers XC3 teardown video (shunt mod) and the XC3 cooler seems to be well thought out.
 
Asus's stand-alone VRM spreader probably does a good job of isolating the more heat-sensitive GPU from the heat generated by the less-heat-sensitive memory modules, but the XC3 cooler is otherwise a good cooler with less surface area. 
 
I feel better about the XC3 Gaming that I'm in line for now, after seeing that video. 
post edited by z1nonly - 2020/10/20 08:57:52
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 10:53:57 (permalink)
I am also seeing really hot temps on my 3080 FTW Ultra.  (85c in Warzone) 
Before this I had a 1060 SC from evga and it idled at 45 and topped at at 65c so I am a bit concerned
 
I would like to see what I can do before I try and RMA it though.  I just put the card in the case, didn't overclock or anything. 
 
What benchmark should I try and run or is there a certain fan curve I should run? 
Before this I had a 1060 SC from evga and it idled at 45 and topped at at 65c so I am a bit concerned
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 10:57:47 (permalink)
85 is really high. Mine at stock was 74c at the highest.
 
What case and fans are you running? If there's bad airflow inside the case that might be doing it.
 
You could undervolt with MSI Afterburner (and set a more aggressive fan curve). I got my card down to 64c with a minimal performance drop.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 11:00:18 (permalink)
4 140 Noctua 2000 PWM.  (2 pulling air in the front, 2 pushing air out on top)
1 120 Meshify pushing air out in the back.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 11:05:49 (permalink)
also my cpu temp is at 32 right now at idle and my gpu is at 60.  So I am not sure it is an air flow issue but if there are suggestions on improving the air flow I am willing to make the changes.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 11:09:06 (permalink)
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I am also seeing really hot temps on my 3080 FTW Ultra.  (85c in Warzone) 
Before this I had a 1060 SC from evga and it idled at 45 and topped at at 65c so I am a bit concerned
 
I would like to see what I can do before I try and RMA it though.  I just put the card in the case, didn't overclock or anything. 
 
What benchmark should I try and run or is there a certain fan curve I should run? 
Before this I had a 1060 SC from evga and it idled at 45 and topped at at 65c so I am a bit concerned



1060 SC has a TDP of 120w? The 3080 FTW Ultra has, well, a LOT more.
 
I don't know that 65C on a low power card is an indication that your case has good-enough airflow to dissipate over 300w of power. There could be something wrong with your card, but there could also be airflow issues with your case.
 
*Edit* case info posted while I was typing.
 
How much space do you have between your FTW fans and the PSU shroud?
 
Can you post a pic?
post edited by z1nonly - 2020/10/20 11:24:04
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 11:25:55 (permalink)
Here is a picture of my case.  I have the video card in the top pci slot.
 
 

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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 11:30:35 (permalink)

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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 12:02:39 (permalink)
It's impossible to normalise results for temperatures as everyone's cases are different, and even the same cases have different fan set ups, one older card with different settings that give "X" temperature is not going to be the same as another card running different settings and has "Y" temperature.

If you have a good air flow case, and you are running the latest firmware and bios for your card, with latest Nvidia drivers and your card is hitting above the standard results (72C for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra gaming was stated by GN) whilst on gaming load then there might be an issue but there are a ton of variables for each setup and before trying to RMA it's worth at least a little time troubleshooting your software, systems, fan curves etc before throwing in the towel.

Just my humble 2c
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 13:24:18 (permalink)
I have a xc3 ultra model I temps up 89c at 70% fan curve yet to 90% to hit 83c I opened the card and noticed the thermal paste was dried out and hard. I changed it and now my temps don’t go above 72c in warzone at about 60% fan curve.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 13:54:46 (permalink)
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Here is a picture of my case.  I have the video card in the top pci slot.
 
 





Is the PSU shroud removable on that case? I would try removing it to get a little more breathing room for the Card's intake fans.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 14:37:07 (permalink)
Those sets of cables (3 of them) run right across Infront of the lower case fan, if you could thread them through above the card that might help the card but then might impact the CPU, the FTW3 is wide and the blower design means it needs to channel the warm air away, it can't go out the back (mobo) and can't go out the front (side panel) so it needs to go somewhere and typically that would be the back or slightly past between the side panel and exit out the top, with the panel on I'm guessing the heat pools in the lower part of the case without the lower 140 fan pushing out the warm air out the back of the case. Difficult to tell for certain, I guess a little bit of trial and error, might even be worth looking at an undervolt ?
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 14:40:27 (permalink)
Hello I had over a week now with my ftw3 ultra , I installed it in a thermaltake view 71 with 3 intake fans and a push-pull configuration with a Corsair h150i Pro on top and 140 ml intake on the bottom and another 140 mil exhaust on the back, I have an 8700 K with a Maximus X formula, my card runs stable out of the box , the card overclock between 1960 to 1980 Mhz , the highest temperature I have seen after hours of war zone is 66c , with max graphics RTX off playing at 1440p , I do not hear my card over my case fans
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 15:33:06 (permalink)
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Those sets of cables (3 of them) run right across Infront of the lower case fan, if you could thread them through above the card that might help the card but then might impact the CPU, the FTW3 is wide and the blower design means it needs to channel the warm air away, it can't go out the back (mobo) and can't go out the front (side panel) so it needs to go somewhere and typically that would be the back or slightly past between the side panel and exit out the top, with the panel on I'm guessing the heat pools in the lower part of the case without the lower 140 fan pushing out the warm air out the back of the case. Difficult to tell for certain, I guess a little bit of trial and error, might even be worth looking at an undervolt ?

 
Yup it was the cable for the power supply but now what you think.  One of the second connectors on the power cable on the end was catching the middle fan and stopping it.  Sigh.  I have ordered new power cables from CableMod.  I am going to redo the whole thing. 
 
Thanks for all your help.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/20 23:42:32 (permalink)
I also have a meshify C but with standard 1500-rpm a14 fans in the front and 1 top and 1 rear s12a fans. I ran a GPU + CPU power virus load (furmark and prime95) and hit 83 max on the GPU and 88 max on the CPU. I have the XOC VBIOS with the stock OC fan curve and maxed out power limit on the FTW3. The bottom front and top fans are connected to the fan header on the GPU and reached a max PWM of 80%. The other case fans and the CPU fan were running at full speed. 85 degrees while gaming is definitely not normal.
 
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/21 01:58:08 (permalink)
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Yup it was the cable for the power supply but now what you think.  One of the second connectors on the power cable on the end was catching the middle fan and stopping it.  Sigh.  I have ordered new power cables from CableMod.  I am going to redo the whole thing. 
Thanks for all your help.



No worries, glad you found the issue


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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/21 19:27:32 (permalink)
For FTW3 3080 high temp issue, GPU undervolting is the best regulation at this stage, now my GPU adjust 0.925V at 1935mhz, GPU temp in gaming is 68°(better than adjust before gaming temp 78°), every one can try this method.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/21 22:52:03 (permalink)
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Here is a picture of my case.  I have the video card in the top pci slot.
 
 





Same Case... Same Problem... my sidewall is removed and i bought a O11 Dynamic... the Fractal compact isnt the right case for this GPU... Difference between Closed Case and Open ~10+ °C. This card needs definitly more air then others before.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/22 14:01:17 (permalink)
I have my FTW3 Ultra in a Lian Li 011 XL and I'm using the vertical mount kit.  I did move the mount point towards the motherboard while the card is air cooled.  So that the GPU is more directly over the fans I have in the bottom of the case.  My previous GPU was on my water loop.
 
So far in my gaming sessions and benchmarking today the card is ranging from mid 60's to a high of 72'ish.  This morning it never went out of the 60s, but it has gotten warmer over the course of the day.  The only thing I've changed on the card is setting the RGB to white to match my build.
 
I will also add that for an experiment I moved the slot on the vertical mount to the same position my Hydro Copper was in.  Which put the fans pretty close to the side glass and the card wasn't over the fans really.  After the system warmed up the idle temp was 60c....  simply moving the mounting point back over the fans dropped the idle at current room temp to 48c.  I have no idea what the temp is inside but it feels really warm and this morning it was really cool.  I live in Western NY for reference.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/22 14:08:44 (permalink)
I continue to be happy with and impressed by the temps on the 3080 FTW3 Ultra.
No game has pushed me beyond the 60°s yet. And that's at 4k 60FPS, near max or max settings. Stress testing and benchmarks have only reached a maximum of 73°.
 
Very pleased with these results.
 

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