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2014/01/12 12:09:36 (permalink)
I've been contemplating water cooling for a while now and decided to order parts yesterday.  I did a quick paint job showing my tubing but I'm not sure if I did it right.  The case is a 900d
 

If you guys see any mistakes or if you have any suggestions can you please show me.
 
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 12:16:42 (permalink)
    I have until tuesday to plan this out.  Additional information:
     
    3 780 TI ACX.  Going to be connected via an EK terminal
    1/2"x3/4" tubing and compression fittings
     
    I ordered 12 fittings.  Thats how many connections I counted but I'm scared I might be missing a few once i actually put the thing together.  I'm really going to hate myself if I have to order a few fittings overnight if I end up not having enough.
     
    Here is my complete order list:

     
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 12:22:42 (permalink)
    Rad to Rad may not be the best way for cooling as their is no need to cool a Rad.
    I Go from Pump to Rad to CPU to Rad then back to Pump, the second Rad in my loop is to help cool the Pump.
    If you have a strong Pump and you are on a single loop Start Pump - Rad - CPU - Rad - GPU - Rad - Pump.
    MX-4 is good for up to 8 years, NX is 3 years Max. 
    On a side note, you cannot copy text from an image so we have to re-type to do a search.
     
    What are you going to use to control your Pump and Fans?
     
     $169.99 CTR-CD1224 12V or 24V Pump & Fan Controller With Display   SKU: CTR-CD1224
      $76.99 PMP-450 Pump, ID 13mm (1/2in)   SKU: PMP-450
     $49.99 Pump Fitting & Reservoir Base for PMP-450/S, Rev.2.1   SKU: COV-RP450 PMP-450 connect in this and the Reservoir a top. 
     
      $9.99 Reservoir Top with Fill Port (60mm OD)   SKU: COV-TKTOP
     $13.99  Reservoir Body, 60x120mm (WxL), 236ml   SKU: BDY-TK120
    Like in my Rig here:
     
    Pump Only no fan control
     $49.99 CTR-SPD1224M 12V or 24V Pump/Fan Controller   SKU: CTR-SPD1224M
     
    Best
    Per Foot $2.19 Tubing, Clear UV-Reactive PVC,  13mm x 19mm (1/2in x 3/4in)   SKU: HOS-13X19CL
    Why Clear you ask, to see the fluid and tube conduction (Inside the Tube) Also 1/2in x 3/4in is stronger and will kink lest then 1/2in x 5/8in if you want smaller then:
    Good
    Per Foot $1.59 Tubing, Clear UV-Reactive PVC,  10mm x 16mm (3/8in x 5/8in)   SKU: HOS-10X16CL
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 12:31:31 (permalink)
    The pump has a speed controller as for fan I'm not sure what to get yet so i just bought some cheap molex to 3 pin adapters for now.
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 12:32:49 (permalink)
    edit
    post edited by nickuku - 2014/01/12 18:02:14
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 12:33:54 (permalink)
    I agree with bcavanaugh.  Not sure you also need to have tubing go outside the case.  If you design it right, it should all be inside.  I thought about using the 900D, but instead went with a Caselabs custom case as there was enough room for everything inside the case.  I went with short and wide rather than tall.  I am still working on mine, but I did one res/pump combo for each rad in my configuration.  Not sure this is best, but it should help in keeping flow up and keep temps down.  I am still working on it, as there is much to consider while doing this.  I probably should have asked more questions on this before I ordered my stuff, but I feel confident I can work things out.  Best of luck.



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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 12:38:42 (permalink)
    Go from that bottom 480 to the gpu and work your way up and go from the top 480 back to the reservoir.

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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 12:40:07 (permalink)
    its going to go behind the motherboard tray not outside the actual case.  As for the tubing order I'll redo it as soon as I get a chance to.
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 12:40:50 (permalink)
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    Rad to Rad may not be the best way for cooling as their is no need to cool a Rad.
    I Go from Pump to Rad to CPU to Rad then back to Pump, the second Rad in my loop is to help cool the Pump.
    If you have a strong Pump and you are on a single loop Start Pump - Rad - CPU - Rad - GPU - Rad - Pump.




    Disagree.  The more heat surface the better depending what the OP wants to cool.  As we can see he points out that he has 3 GPUs and a CPU to cool.  He has more than enough radiators to cool it all with OCing headroom.  
     
    Once the loop is running say 30 mins it will neutralize, also better known as equilibrium.  Loop order does not matter ONLY on the circumstance of the reservoir being before the pump so the pump doesn't run dry which can be fatal.
     
    As for the OP, I hope you have done your research on how to prime, bleed and maintain a custom liquid cooling system.  It has its ups and downs.  I just hope you did your homework before purchasing as most don't always do.
     
    Also, the favored tubing atm used by a lot of custom water coolers that has been successful is the PrimoChill Advanced LRT.
     
    As for the case, its a phenomenal case and very easy to work with, especially with watercooling compared to other cases.  You can check my modsrigs or checkout my build log here to give you an idea what I did.  I had to use 4 90 degree fittings for all the bottom radiators.  Chances are you will or want to use some type of angle fitting(s).
     
     
    post edited by gtxjackbauer - 2014/01/12 12:48:13

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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 12:45:14 (permalink)
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    Rad to Rad may not be the best way for cooling as their is no need to cool a Rad.
    I Go from Pump to Rad to CPU to Rad then back to Pump, the second Rad in my loop is to help cool the Pump.
    If you have a strong Pump and you are on a single loop Start Pump - Rad - CPU - Rad - GPU - Rad - Pump.




    Disagree.  The more heat surface the better depending what the OP wants to cool.  As we can see he points out that he has 3 GPUs and a CPU to cool.  He has more than enough radiators to cool it all with OCing headroom.  
     
    Once the loop is running say 30 mins it will neutralize, also better known as equilibrium.  Loop order does not matter ONLY on the circumstance of the reservoir being before the pump so the pump doesn't run dry which can be fatal.
     
    As for the OP, I hope you have done your research on how prime, bleed and maintain a custom liquid cooling system.  It has its ups and downs.  I just hope you did your homework before purchasing as most don't always do.
     
    Also, the favored tubing atm used by lots of water coolers that has been successful has been the PrimoChill Advanced LRT.
     
    As for the case, its a phenomenal case and very easy to work with, especially watercooling compared to other cases.  You can check my modsrigs or checkout my build log here to give you an idea what I did.  I had to use 4 90 degree fittings for all the bottom radiators.  Chances are you will or want to use some type of angle fitting(s).
     
     


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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 13:02:43 (permalink)
    Loop order does not matter at the temp will become stable after it's up and running for a bit. I do agree about not going rad to rad, might be to some advantage to go rad - gpu - rad - cpu etc.
    I'm running dual pumps and dual speed controllers as that helps when you are bleeding the air out of the system (on low speed), after that I just turn them up.
    Don't forget to add a drain to the loop, I use a "T" fitting and a koolance quick disconnect fitting. Most of mine is in a 800d case but I opted to have a MO-RA 360 LT external rad as well as a internal rad.
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 17:59:42 (permalink)
    How does this look compared to the first one.
     

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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 19:07:07 (permalink)
    What is your Water Flow Direction?
    Pump - Lower Rad - GPU - Upper Rad - CPU - Reservoir? Then looks good.
    Are you setting your Fans in Push/Pull or only Pull with the Air coming into the case?
    You can use Blue for the Cool Side and Red for the Hot Side.
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 19:36:23 (permalink)
    I'm not going to do push pul(as of yet).  I'm going to have the bottom 4 radiator fans, 3 front fans, and back fan as intake and have the 4 radiator fans on top and the 2 140mm on the bottom as exhaust.  Flow is as you described.  This is the setup that linus used on his overkill watercooling build.  Not sure how well it works yet.
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 19:45:15 (permalink)
    Question.  I forgot to buy a kill coil for my loop when purchasing the main parts.  Where can I buy that around here?  Keep in mind I have access to frys, microcenter, newegg, home depot, etc.  All are a drive away.
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/12 19:48:17 (permalink)
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    Question.  I forgot to buy a kill coil for my loop when purchasing the main parts.  Where can I buy that around here?  Keep in mind I have access to frys, microcenter, newegg, home depot, etc.  All are a drive away.



    microcenter is where I found one, as I needed sooner than later and did drive over ours here in Colorado.

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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/13 16:06:27 (permalink)
    So I got confirmation that the parts shipped today.  I will be getting them tommorrow and preparing my tower/hardware for installation of the watercooling today.
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/13 16:13:09 (permalink)
    About how long do you guys expect the installation of the blocks/tubing/etc.   I'm scared to fill the pump without a kill coil.  Will it be fine to use the system for a week or so without a kill coil?
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/13 18:21:13 (permalink)
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    About how long do you guys expect the installation of the blocks/tubing/etc.   I'm scared to fill the pump without a kill coil.  Will it be fine to use the system for a week or so without a kill coil?


    Take your time and do it right the First Time.
    My 1st took 1 day my 4th took 2 days.
    As long as you use only distilled water a week should be ok,,,but I would test your drain and refill process that you have that down packed.
     
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/13 20:07:45 (permalink)
    just saying
    drain and refill is a good way to clean a new loop
    google for cleaning new rads before install
    bleeding can be a pain as per your lay out  , air has to be pushed down too far to the res., see how it go's,
    I have no rads in my case and have a ek 2 x 5.25 bay res above the cpu block ,so highest point in the system ,with a fill port on top of my haf 932 , that for me is easy to top up ,bleeding in 5 minutes [I pre bleed the case loop before reconnection to rad loop] using a external 12v power supply for case pump power.
    -for draining I use a small wet  shop vac using the qdc's at the back of the case [to rads] drain case loop = 3 minutes
     
    -just a noob on water cooling relative to the pro's but I use a bit of wd40 on any o rings / tube , compression fittings  ,fittings ,sli connectors  and any turning connectors before turning them-any thing with a o ring -  lub keeps rings from tearing and in most cases it's needed to undo finger tight with lub as the fittings are so tight once the lub is gone.
     

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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/13 20:42:32 (permalink)
    Use only "distilled water" for all your needs.
    I put some distilled water and heat it up but Not Boiling and flush the rad twice.
    Use Gloves as the Rad WILL BE HOT, shake it up, shake it up, Drain and repeat at least 2 time and do not re-use the water let it go down the drain.
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/14 08:38:22 (permalink)
    Prepping pics for the loop install today whenever the parts arrive.
     



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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/14 09:30:08 (permalink)
    Wow, the 900D is huge! Definitely keep us updated with pics.
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/15 07:27:03 (permalink)
    Apparently the parts didn't make it yesterday but I did order a kill coil and 8 Scythe GT AP-15s. I wanted to go with Noctua fans but the color is just too much.
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/15 09:53:04 (permalink)
    Looks like a very nice plan for cooling.
     

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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/16 08:47:18 (permalink)
    Here are some pics from my work on it last night:
     





     
    I'm still missing some things like the scythe GT fans but I just wanted to test out if there was any leakage so I ran the loop.  It seems to run fine.  No noise at all and I left it on overnight running the pump on max.  I'm going to buy a new resovoir because this one is waaaayyy too tall.  That was a mistake on my part for not checking dimensions and thinking the 900d could fit it.  Thats why my tubing looks so bad at the moment because I'm going to rearrange a bit of it.  All in all it wasn't that hard but a few miscaculations on my part made it a lot harder than it had to be.
     
    Its my first watercooling setup in 10 years and a huge one at that.  I think I'm doing a terrible job so far 
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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/16 11:14:15 (permalink)
    Nice custom cooling :D
    I'd like to get one, but I have NO idea where to start off (just for CPU as for my gtx 770 just can't afford) :D

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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/16 13:01:30 (permalink)
    Looks great. I love the look of the tri-SLI and the EK blocks. You need the Pro SLI bridge from EVGA. Thanks for the ideas. Glad you got the loop tidy and only used one rad. I need to clean mine up but have not had time this week. I will this weekend. Thanks for posting and keeping us updated. Good work.



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    Re: Water cooling loop check 2014/01/17 08:52:56 (permalink)
    Update:  Didn't want to wait around anymore and reconnected everything.  Had an A5 debug code on my asus motherboard(cpu error).  Scared the living hell out of me.  After some attempts to reseat the cpu it finally worked.  I AM ABSOLUTELY LOVING THESE TEMPS.  Ran Unigine Valley last night heavily overclocked and the 3 GPUs stayed below 40c(I was getting 90+ celcius)with the ACX cooler and insane noise) while reminaing silent.  CPU temps were somewhat still high(high 50s during unigine) but keep in mind I'm using a collection of junk fans from previous builds(3 SP quiet edition corsair fans and a radiator fan from an h100) on 2 480 71mm thick rads.  This thing is freaking HEAVY.  I put it on a scale last night and it was 72 lbs.
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