GFAFS
 

I did clarified what i wanted multiple times in the thread and in my ticket, never got an answer by an EVGA Official in the Thread nor in PM's (or i missed it somehow,so be kind to show it to me), in the ticket i got an Bot answer - Giving me the howto RMA...or was it a woman?! and nothing on the points i insisted on, to which i replied, insisting again on my basics demands, till today nothing (4 days).
Now that was the first part.
 
For the fear-mongering part, to which i answered already, i'm sharing facts, it's a forum after all.
 
You said, EVGA have admitted their mistakes?, no they did not and will not. I also stated this in one of my post.
Again about the "optional" as i said in one of my post (again), if it really is, one is entitled to not make any of it (Which is my position right now) - and the card will surely die prematurely. (back to the part where EVGA did not admitted the mandatory situation).
 
Next we have the RMA part, which is pretty much summed up in the first part. Also my big fuss as you said, is not a threat, just a another fact, i'll ask a refund, depending on the way the ticket is handled.
 
If it has to come to the refund, of course, THEN, i'll have nothing to do here anymore and move along. I wll add that if you can't coop with my positions, you still have the option to close your eyes.
 
Yes, i wish the same thing, a real solution and quick.

Aristoc69
normally what should happen is you take your card to the store and the store gives you a new card. that is what the company should offer. you shouldn't need a receipt as it is obvious what brand and card you have.  this would be truly standing behind the products and respecting the customers. RMA with a credit card really is not the best way to deal with this. neither is repairing your own card. 

EVGA_JacobF
First post updated with 1080/1070 FTW Secondary BIOS and Classified BIOS.

Aenmond

EVGA_JacobF
First post updated with 1080/1070 FTW Secondary BIOS and Classified BIOS.

 
Hi. Noob questions: I have a 1080 FTW. If I don't plan to use the Secondary BIOS, should I update it anyway? What are the advantages of the Secondary BIOS?

Stan Wayne
I have a noobie question.
Should I turn the bios switch from 1 to 2 before flashing the bios 2? and vice versa?

dexters
Just want to post something positive here.
 
I installed vBIOS ok for my GTX 1080 FTW but as my card is so new (October purchase) and I wasn't comfortable doing the thermal pad myself, I decided to pull trigger on RMA.
The longest wait was getting through, *2 calls ahead* but once I got through and confirmed my details, I was put on the que for advanced RMA , just waiting for my invoice to be verified.
 
The rep confirmed the RMA card will have thermal pads installed and the  latest vbios flashed.
He also told me the RMA box will come with a self addressed postage paid box for shipment back to EVGA.
 
Up here in Canada, shipping GFX cards as hefty as the 1080 FTW would easily run me $50+ and probably more since the holiday busy season is coming up.  It was a super nice gesture by EVGA to pay for my postage back to them.
 
I also asked about if I'll get new or refurbished and he confirmed I'll get new since my purchase was recent.  Albeit it may come in an RMA box  (hope it's ok for resale in a few years?)
 
Unless the RMA process itself falls apart or something unexpected comes up, I think this is the best customer service I've received.
 
 
I was an EVGA user on my old GTX 260 and went with MSi for the 700 and 900 series.  This whole thermal thing almost moved me away from EVGA, but it may well keep me with them for the 11 series or 12 series card, whenever I choose to upgrade.
 
Thumbs up.  Fingers crossed on smooth RMA for me, but pretty happy so far.

Aenmond
Hi. Noob questions: I have a 1080 FTW. If I don't plan to use the Secondary BIOS, should I update it anyway? What are the advantages of the Secondary BIOS?

EVGA_JacobF
if you are not using the secondary BIOS, then no need to update it.

Guest007
In my opinion you should. If you update it now, even if you're not going to use it, you won't FORGET to update it (I'm great at forgetting stuff myself haha).

I'm fairly new at computers myself, so take it with a grain of salt.
The purpose of dual bios is the ability to easily reset settings if something goes wrong in an overclock.
If you "abuse" your primary bios and it "breaks" you're able to boot up with the secondary one and "revert the primary".
I own a 1070 FTW myself and it's both my first premium card and first dual bios card.
At least for this card, I think, the Slave bios enables higher OC potential - If I recall correct the slave bios can use a higher power target, or something or other..

Yeah if it isn't obvious, I'm not overclocking yet (or experienced with it) - BUT SOON!

Edit:
Or just listen to Jacob, and don't update it at all :p
You will be fine, not having it updated :) Especially if you're not going to use it.

Aristoc69
normally what should happen is you take your card to the store and the store gives you a new card. that is what the company should offer. you shouldn't need a receipt as it is obvious what brand and card you have.  this would be truly standing behind the products and respecting the customers. RMA with a credit card really is not the best way to deal with this. neither is repairing your own card. 

trevor42088
I've been through a good amount of pages and haven't seen it clearly answered.

Does the over heating issues effect a 1070 sc? I keep my fans around 80% and keep the card 60c or cooler, will this ever be a problem for me?

clocked970
 
You do realize that the purpose of the new bios is to increase the native fan speed of the card at certain temperatures? So if he is keeping his fans at 80% with a program like Afterburner or PrecisionX, that is the exact same result as flashing the new bios. I am not worried about rushing to get the new bios because I always make my own fan curve to keep my card cool anyways.