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Wednesday, July 25, 2018 10:55 PM
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Linked below is a database of modified BIOSes for EVGA X58 motherboards patched with the latest microcode (0x1F for Westmere, 0x1D for Bloomfield) against Meltdown and all variants of Spectre. Make sure the operating system is also updated to be fully protected from speculative execution side-channel vulnerabilities (CVE-2017-5715, CVE-2017-5753, CVE-2017-5754). While most of Nehalem CPUs received a new microcode from Intel, there is an early stepping (C0) that hasn't and therefore still vulnerable at the moment. However, these very few CPUs will also benefit from increased security and stability due to more recent microcode. In addition, the ROMs feature TRIM support for SSDs in RAID0 and extended CPU compatibility table for all motherboards. Unofficial ROMs! use at your own risk. Other useful downloads Some 3DMark and AIDA64 benchmark results are available here. I normally hang on TechPowerUp, here's the original thread in case you want to report a bug.
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
Thursday, July 26, 2018 3:29 AM
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I was completely disgusted and very upset by Intel and its "partner" EVGA for -both- simply walking away from this problem on the X58 platform. And EVGA for making no effort whatsoever for its "lifetime warranty" X58 customers in any way with regards to the Meltdown/Spectre issue. EVGA blamed Intel for not providing microcode, and Intel simply flat out lied about existing impacted system numbers "why bother, lets make them pay us again" was the message EVGA used to be known for its customer service, and sadly it is now a minor reflection of what that service once was. The Meltdown/Spectre for the X58 platform episode simply put the truth out there for all to see clearly that a EVGA "lifetime" promise is not even 9 years As we can see from the files posted above (and others on the web), it was not so hard to produce as both Intel and EVGA would have us believe.... If anybody working at EVGA gives a darn about the warranty promises it made to customers, now would be the time to COMMENT As you cannot blame Intel anymore, the files you said you needed have now been produced, integrated and posted for use. https://www.techpowerup.c...8-motherboards.246101/-->then test these, and post them up for download at EVGA for its customers. Can EVGA even be bothered to do THAT for its customers? When all the work (you completely avoided) has been done for you already? One would seriously hope so... *and a huge thumbs up for user Regeneration and the work he has shared for the community. Thank you Sir
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Your welcome. Did you try it? I need some feedback as Award BIOSes can be sometimes tricky.
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
Friday, July 27, 2018 3:29 AM
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regeneration Your welcome. Did you try it? I need some feedback as Award BIOSes can be sometimes tricky.
Back in the day I would have tested this immediately (as I need it very badly) but its been years since I started from scratch with this system and a botch would leave me without a working system or any internet access to work the issues.... As for EVGA... no meaningful comments on this from them in 24hrs (or should really I say over 6 months) is simply inexcusable. Is there really nobody left at EVGA support who cares abouts its customers? "EVGA does not have the needed microcode files from Intel" is the complete and entire response from EVGA up till this point. WELL THE FILES YOU (EVGA) SAID YOU NEEDED ARE POSTED, so test these files and post the FIX for your customers "Please buy a new $400 MB, new $300 CPU, new $300 RAM" and pay for another two copies of $200 OS's I have already purchased. All because EVGA cannot be bothered to support its products like they said they would in the warranty contract is NOT what I expect after 9 years and 8 videocards... And the--> WORST OF ALL My system is working perfectly except for a needed security patch, and there is no reason to pay $1500+ for replacements that will provide the EXACT same FPS performance levels in the games I play. Which of course is why I am still running this system config. The support I have received up till now (after many months) for the Meltdown/Spectre issue on my lifetime warranty X58 e760 has been effectively ZERO Now that the "needed" files are posted, I expect EVGA to comment -and- provide the support FIX AND TESTING needed for this issue
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
Friday, July 27, 2018 4:06 PM
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I saw some EVGA staff reading in this thread last night... Does anyone who works at EVGA have any comments to make?
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
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If its going to make you feel any better, other vendors haven't released BIOS update too. So far, only HP, Dell, Super Micro released BIOS updates for their servers and some of business platforms. The new microcode covers most but not all 1st generation CPUs. I think Intel and Microsoft are to blame for this. The microcode should be loaded during the bootup process (like in Linux).
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
Saturday, July 28, 2018 4:23 AM
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regeneration If its going to make you feel any better, other vendors haven't released BIOS update too. So far, only HP, Dell, Super Micro released BIOS updates for their servers and some of business platforms. The new microcode covers most but not all 1st generation CPUs. I think Intel and Microsoft are to blame for this. The microcode should be loaded during the bootup process (like in Linux).
EVGA sold these boards with a "lifetime" warranty, unlike others who gave only a few years at best... and charged more than a 100%+ extra margin for it. 3 year, 5 year, 10 year warranties are just that. Just what does "lifetime" mean anyway? In terms of in game performance levels, my system is able to produce the same FPS in games like Battlefield or PUBG with matching numbers or even -above- some of the latest Intel CPU/Chipsets (with my 1080Ti installed at 1440) so it certainly is NOT -->EOL game performance wise. I "should" be the poster child for EVGA product longevity, as my e760 has run like a champ overclocked for 9 years of very very heavy use... And none of the (8) Video Cards I have installed into my x58 over that time has ever needed a RMA... Instead I've become just a very unhappy customer due to a lack of promised (and PAID for) support for a MB that has a lifetime warranty and is not EOL performance wise for its intended use. Lets see if anyone at EVGA cares.....
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
Saturday, July 28, 2018 4:48 AM
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Thanks for these! How did you go about adding the code? I've been curious about doing some bios modding.
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
Saturday, July 28, 2018 6:55 AM
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Coldblackice Thanks for these! How did you go about adding the code? I've been curious about doing some bios modding.
Go to this website, the BIOS is already modded for you. Scroll down to the EVGA section and get the one for your board. https://www.techpowerup.c...8-motherboards.246101/
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
Saturday, July 28, 2018 9:27 AM
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regeneration Linked below is a collection of modded BIOSes for X58 motherboards patched with the latest microcode (0x1F for Westmere, 0x1D for Bloomfield) against Meltdown and all variants of Spectre. Make sure the operating system is also updated to be fully protected from speculative execution side-channel vulnerabilities. https://www.techpowerup.c...8-motherboards.246101/
I posted this in the news section already by the way: https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2838976
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Hmm ... are early Xeons effected by this flaw ? Iam thinking of putting a Xeon X5660 or W3680 in my Evga x58 132-BL-E758-TR . Currently my x58 is a mild backup machine and used seldom so Iam still on an older bios and need to update it to the last known "official" 82 or 83 bios .
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Sunday, July 29, 2018 0:36 PM
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Hmm....In the latest documents I could find these microcode updates only support XEON processors for X58 no i7-9XX processors are getting updates as all were still listed as stopped. The following CPUIDs got a new microcode: 106A5, 206C2, 206E6, 206F2 but they were all XEON as far as I could tell. If someone has any links to any different information I would be very happy to find out otherwise. Believe me, I would love the 980X to get an update for x58 as it is 206C2 but it still doesn't have a microcode as far as I can find. Just cause the CPUID was listed only server level CPU were updated. Nice if you are running a XEON or don't have to mod the board to use them.
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Sunday, July 29, 2018 2:06 AM
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Will anybody from EVGA support even bother to show up in this thread? Or maybe they just dont bother visiting the forums when the scavenger hunt is running, since the website barely runs..... Yeah, plenty of effort and money for promotions... lots of RMA's for scammers and hardware abusers... But apparently nothing for honest paying customers who take great care of their EVGA products just looking for some promised help.... That's just great
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
Sunday, July 29, 2018 3:18 AM
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Mrunderwonder Hmm....In the latest documents I could find these microcode updates only support XEON processors for X58 no i7-9XX processors are getting updates as all were still listed as stopped. The following CPUIDs got a new microcode: 106A5, 206C2, 206E6, 206F2 but they were all XEON as far as I could tell. If someone has any links to any different information I would be very happy to find out otherwise. Believe me, I would love the 980X to get an update for x58 as it is 206C2 but it still doesn't have a microcode as far as I can find. Just cause the CPUID was listed only server level CPU were updated. Nice if you are running a XEON or don't have to mod the board to use them. That's incorrect. 106A5 is Bloomfield (quadcore i7-9xx), 206C2 is Westmere (hexacore i7-9xx). 1st gen Xeons are very similar to the i7 series (W3680 is identical to i7-980x) Latest Intel's microcode for Linux ( https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27776/Linux-Processor-Microcode-Data-File) include those ucodes.
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
Sunday, July 29, 2018 3:19 AM
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stereo55Hmm ... are early Xeons effected by this flaw ? Iam thinking of putting a Xeon X5660 or W3680 in my Evga x58 132-BL-E758-TR . Currently my x58 is a mild backup machine and used seldom so Iam still on an older bios and need to update it to the last known "official" 82 or 83 bios . Yes. I suggest Xeon X series due to the lower tcase.
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
Sunday, July 29, 2018 8:41 AM
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Mrunderwonder Hmm....In the latest documents I could find these microcode updates only support XEON processors for X58 no i7-9XX processors are getting updates as all were still listed as stopped. The following CPUIDs got a new microcode: 106A5, 206C2, 206E6, 206F2 but they were all XEON as far as I could tell. If someone has any links to any different information I would be very happy to find out otherwise. Believe me, I would love the 980X to get an update for x58 as it is 206C2 but it still doesn't have a microcode as far as I can find. Just cause the CPUID was listed only server level CPU were updated. Nice if you are running a XEON or don't have to mod the board to use them.
That's incorrect. 106A5 is Bloomfield (quadcore i7-9xx), 206C2 is Westmere (hexacore i7-9xx). 1st gen Xeons are very similar to the i7 series (W3680 is identical to i7-980x) Latest Intel's microcode for Linux () include those ucodes.
Maybe not so incorrect if you look harder. You are correct that 106A5 is Bloomfield but.....it is also Nehalem which is the XEON EP,WS chips of the same generation; also 106A5 ID. First gen Bloomfield which is 106A4 they are also i7-9XX (920,930,950,960,975EE). The 106A5 Bloomfields are only (920"Second Gen", 940, 965EE) While 206C2 is Westmere, that was the server level XEON EP,WS chips. The consumer level chips were Gulftown (970,980,980X,990X,W3690 XEON) also 206C2. Again these chips were not supported with vulnerability fixes from my research. That is a nice list on the Linux release and I have no doubt that the microcode will be able to load with the processor. The real issue is, does it have changes for the processor to mitigate the attack vectors that these updates are supposed to stop. I haven't seen anything from intel supporting a new microcode for the 106A4 (920,930,950,960,975EE), 106A5 (920"Second Gen", 940, 965EE), 206C2 (970,980,980X,990X,W3690 XEON) that fixes Spectre vulnerabilities.. All 106A5,206C2 processors are Xeon Nehalem and Westmere. If you have one on your X58 that's good for you. If anyone can provide proof that the modded bios fixes the i7-9XX series I'll be happy to see it.
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
Sunday, July 29, 2018 12:17 AM
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106A4 = i7 9xx series steppings C0/C1/B0 106A5 = i7 9xx series steppings D0/B1 (improved IMC) 206C2 = Westmere, Gulftown
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
Sunday, July 29, 2018 2:41 PM
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maniacvvv Will anybody from EVGA support even bother to show up in this thread? Or maybe they just dont bother visiting the forums when the scavenger hunt is running, since the website barely runs.....
Yeah, plenty of effort and money for promotions... lots of RMA's for scammers and hardware abusers...
But apparently nothing for honest paying customers who take great care of their EVGA products just looking for some promised help....
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
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regeneration 106A4 = i7 9xx series steppings C0/C1/B0 106A5 = i7 9xx series steppings D0/B1 (improved IMC) 206C2 = Westmere, Gulftown
The latest revision guidance says nothing about the i7-9xx, in fact they have been dropped from the document. The revision guidance from April 2 had them in Stopped status as they had dropped development of those processor microcodes. Don't get me wrong I appreciate all the work you did to bring these to X58 but this isn't the smoking gun some in this thread are making it out to be. "https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/04/microcode-update-guidance.pdf" April Guidance "https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/sa00115-microcode-update-guidance.pdf" July Guidance. Damn this forum is stupid with the url links. Don't copy the quotes.
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
Sunday, July 29, 2018 9:12 PM
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Mrunderwonder The latest revision guidance says nothing about the i7-9xx, in fact they have been dropped from the document. The revision guidance from April 2 had them in Stopped status as they had dropped development of those processor microcodes. Don't get me wrong I appreciate all the work you did to bring these to X58 but this isn't the smoking gun some in this thread are making it out to be. "https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/04/microcode-update-guidance.pdf" April Guidance "https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/sa00115-microcode-update-guidance.pdf" July Guidance. Damn this forum is stupid with the url links. Don't copy the quotes. A week after Intel announced it will not support 1st generation, it released a beta microcode for the CPUs in question. Production microcode arrived on May with support for the following i7 CPUs: i7-920 (D0), i7-930, i7-950, i7-960, i7-970, i7-975, i7-980, i7-980x, i7-990x. Some of the Xeons are just rebranded products.
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
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All I can do is post a screenshot, i7-930 (106A5), E758, installed modded bios from link. Inspectre reports no change. All OS patches are installed. Like I said, if anyone has solid proof of this working on an i7-9xx series processor I would love to see it. When I get some time I'll post results on my 980X, its busy right now. I suspect it will be the same. "https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtylZR43-H9Wg-s3xc75n_VFQyYZCg" Sorry I don't have enough posts to post actual url links. Don't copy the quotes if you want to see the full screenshot.
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If you hit that up arrow just to the left of the post #number, then hit reply, on the right is a paperclip where you can post attachments. Just upload the picture right to EVGA, thn after that double click the pic at the bottom of the page to put it right in the main reply text box.
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
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MrunderwonderAll I can do is post a screenshot, i7-930 (106A5), E758, installed modded bios from link. Inspectre reports no change. All OS patches are installed. Like I said, if anyone has solid proof of this working on an i7-9xx series processor I would love to see it. When I get some time I'll post results on my 980X, its busy right now. I suspect it will be the same. Can you please try this bios? it has an alternative ucode for 106a5 courtesy of HP.
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bill1024 If you hit that up arrow just to the left of the post #number, then hit reply, on the right is a paperclip where you can post attachments. Just upload the picture right to EVGA, thn after that double click the pic at the bottom of the page to put it right in the main reply text box.
I uploaded the largest file I could. They limit it to 500kB, so quality is not great. I can't do much because you need 9 posts to post urls links and I suspect a low limit on uploading as well. Regeneration, I downloaded the other bios, I'll try it out later this week when I get some time. Thanks
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
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regeneration Can you please try ? it has an alternative ucode for 106a5 courtesy of HP.
I tried this tonight. Inspectre still shows no change. From what I can tell it stepped back to C from D revision on the microcode. So basically we just tried the "BETA" revision. Thinking about this from a practical standpoint. Do to the fact that these processors are "similar" to the Xeons these bios changes should work, but I believe there is some model specific stuff going on under the hood so to speak that is preventing this on the i7-9xx series. That would be even more of a kick in the nuts from intel than before. Here's my theory..... If you have one of these 106A5 Bloomfield Xeons W3520, W3530, W3540, W3550, W3565, W3570, W3580. I bet the microcode updates would work for you no problem. If I could get my hands on one I would test it. I'll get the results on the 980X this weekend.
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Re: Unofficial Spectre Patched BIOS for EVGA X58 Motherboards
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I heard from a user having the same problem like yours. He said that playing around with the Spectre registry flags solved it. Another user with i7-920 posted screenshot of InSpectre, all good. I think something is wrong on your side.
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OK this post is just to get me one more so I can post links. This post limit is ridiculous ahhhhh!!!!! I mean anything is possible but I don't see how I'm doing something wrong. Flash bios, reload defaults, reconfigure. What could I be missing?
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Hmm.....guess I need one more post? ****
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Regeneration, do you have some time to update this bios file with the latest microcodes? https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtylZR43-H9Wg-s6FOoTbRoUvSnrcQIt has some other updates that might be handy for some. Intel RAID Option ROM 11.2.0.1527 (Should enable TRIM on X58 with RST 11.2.0.1006), JMicron RAID Option ROM 1.07.28, and Realtek PXE ROM 2.64 We've been modding the 83 bios for awhile. This would only work on the E758 but there are many more files linked in this thread from back in the day. https://forums.evga.com/New-RAID-ROM-m1586609.aspx I'll keep trying to get this to work. I checked all registry keys I could modify. I even ran speculation control check using the powershell script. Which is recommended, I have seen false positives on InSpectre when people are using the VM driver someone was plugging awhile back. It says it is working and it isn't. I'll try to find the thread that was talking about it and ask the other guy if he has it installed.
post edited by Mrunderwonder - Saturday, August 04, 2018 11:11 PM
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