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2021/11/24 08:36:27 (permalink)
EDIT (12/30/21):  READ DOWN FOR UNOFFICIAL PAD HEIGHTS
 
Has anybody done a measurement of the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming GPU thermal pads?  Want to eventually do a re pad with Thermalright Odyssey 12 m/WK pads but not sure what each internal pad's height is ...
 
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2021/12/29 22:10:33 (permalink)
Man, I'd love to know this too.
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2021/12/30 05:21:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby EVGATech_MatthewC 2022/09/09 13:46:15
capac1982 Man, I'd love to know this too. 

 
Hey mate ... here are measurements for the pad heights on the EVGA 3080 ti XC3 model (should apply for all XC3 models).  See below for more comments regarding pad dimensions and sources for both quality pads and also putty should you want to continue using thermal putty where applicable:
 
(thanks and shout out to Reddit user u/CriticalQuartz for the below image which I borrowed from his website, Kritical Pads)



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Before modifying a new/warrantied EVGA GPU?
 
Before modifying your GPU in any way, I would definitely recommend buying a replacement kit of both stock EVGA thermal pads as well as EVGA's own thermal putty on the chance you might ever have to return your card for warranty service. In such a case, you will want to return your card to it's factory pad/putty configuration.   I have read numerous personal accounts of EVGA not honoring warranty claims when GPU's have been shipped back to them with aftermarket thermal pads/putty installed and especially in cases where users decide to use thermal pads in place of the stock thermal putty that is applied to all EVGA 30 series VRM areas.  Both EVGA thermal pads and thermal putty are very affordable.  For EVGA thermal pads, you must email support directly; they run about $10 for a full set (minus VRM putty).  For EVGA thermal putty, you can purchase it online HERE.

  
For Aftermarket Pad Replacements?
 
1. Kritical Pads:  this fellow is offering pre cut sets of high quality, 20 W/mk pads for EVGA 3080/3080ti/3090 cards.  He's spent a good deal of time sourcing custom measured and cut pads and sells complete sets for these cards. Prices are quite reasonable and reviews so far have been very good.  I have a set I ordered for my EVGA 3080 ti XC3 Ultra Gaming but have not installed them yet as my VRAM temps are fine at the moment.  They do come well packaged and the overall quality of sizing and cutting are top notch.  Way better cuts than the stock EVGA pads I ordered (no offense to EVGA but the pads I ordered from them look like they were cut out with scissors whereas Kritical pads are obvously machine cut/manufactured). 


2. Direct from EVGA: you can order thermal pads for your specific GPU direct from EVGA if you are a registered.  Cost is only $10.00 (as of Nov 2021) so an excellent source, especially for taking your own measurements of pad dimensions for use when doing thermal pad replacements. 
 
There are also other good pads from the likes of Thermalright, GEilid, Alphacool and others so search about but the above linked Kritical Pads are a sure bet as they come in very precise, pre cut kits for most EVGA 30 series cards, taking a lot of the work out of thermal pad replacement.  Fujipoly is also a high quality pad but is a very hard material and does not easily compress and so other, more compressible pads are generally recommended to most completely fill gaps.
 

For Thermal Putty?

 
1. T-Global TG-PP-10 Silicone Thermal Putty : this is an excellent replacement for the stock EVGA supplied putty.  It's rated at 10 W/mk thermal conductivity and has been around for a good while.  There are lots of reviews on youtube and the like.  


2. Direct from EVGA:  EVGA also can provide their own thermal putty should you desire such and though not as highly rated, it will most likely be cheaper than the T-Global putty.
 
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2021/12/30 10:24:18 (permalink)
Hey thanks for the reply!  I had 2mm pads for the mem but it didn't seem quite right, glad to have some clear measurements.  
 
Also I'm surprised by the 1mm sections, those seemed way taller on my card's stock pads.
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2021/12/30 12:20:25 (permalink)
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Hey thanks for the reply!  I had 2mm pads for the mem but it didn't seem quite right, glad to have some clear measurements.  
 
Also I'm surprised by the 1mm sections, those seemed way taller on my card's stock pads.




SHIZA!! LOL ... so glad you noticed that.  You are indeed correct!  Just updated the originally posted image with the correct layout.  The 1mm pads *actually* go where the putty is on the stock XC3 cards.  The two, long strips, 2.5mm/2.75mm respectively, go next to the putty strips.  The 2.75mm strip goes closest to the I/O shield as shown in the corrected image.
 
And BTW ... the owner of Kritical Pads has actually measured the stock XC3 VRAM pads at 2.25mm but I simply put 2.5mm as I don't think one is likely to find 2.25mm pads from common vendors.  That said, I am fairly certain the kits he sells at Kritical Pads have 2.25mm as he orders them to spec.  2.5mm should be just fine though if using typical semi "squishy" pads. 
 
Thanks again for the notice ... 
 
 
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2021/12/30 21:46:04 (permalink)
Thanks again!  So little info out there on this your post will likely help a ton of folks!
 
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2021/12/31 12:51:44 (permalink)
ordered some Kritical pads myself today, as my country has better customs with US (Kritical Pads) than Taiwan (EVGA), and local, official EVGA representatives will not sell me any acessories for EVGA products. I asked the shop I bought my 2x 3080 for thermal pads and 120mm fans to make my hybrid push-pull but "sorry, we don't sell those, we don't take custom orders".
 
I will eventually also order some EVGA pads +putty, down the line as I want to keep some spares in case of any eventual RMA from malfunction (so I get to keep the Kritical pads which are still 27+shipping). Extra  important as I have the extended 5y warranty.
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2021/12/31 15:28:14 (permalink)
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ordered some Kritical pads myself today, as my country has better customs with US (Kritical Pads) than Taiwan (EVGA), and local, official EVGA representatives will not sell me any acessories for EVGA products. I asked the shop I bought my 2x 3080 for thermal pads and 120mm fans to make my hybrid push-pull but "sorry, we don't sell those, we don't take custom orders".
 
I will eventually also order some EVGA pads +putty, down the line as I want to keep some spares in case of any eventual RMA from malfunction (so I get to keep the Kritical pads which are still 27+shipping). Extra  important as I have the extended 5y warranty.




Definitely order backup pads/putty from EVGA, just for that worst case scenario should you have to request warranty service; I got the extended 5 year as well, a really great deal. 
 
I have the 3080ti pre cut kit from Kritical but haven't installed them yet; here's a photo of the pads.  Before I ordered the Kritical pads I had just re pasted the GPU core with Noctua NH-1 but most importantly, replaced the stock EVGA putty with T-Global TG-PP-10 putty and also placed the same putty over the main VRAM areas on the back of the card so that it contacts the back plate.  I used most of the bottle of T Global putty (lots of space on back of card to fill) and  since it cost me like $30 for the putty I'm just going to leave it for now.  I left the stock EVGA thermal pads in place and have run extensive tests to max out the GPU VRAM temps but nothing I throw at the card will get the VRAM temps over 85C so I'm just leaving it for now.  Core temps are always around 70C max (fan 85%) so that's completely fine as well. I'll do the Kritical pad installs later I suppose.
 
I'm not sure if the putty I put on back of the card is helping or not but I do know that the back plate on this thing gets so hot that I can't keep my finger on it for more than a few seconds in certain places and when fully loaded (hours long gaming, etc.).  I haven't measured with an infrared temp but the areas of the backplate where I've applied the putty are definitely hotter to the touch than the rest of the back plate so I suppose it might be working.  The backplate gets so damn hot that I wonder if adding one of those copper heatsinks selling mostly on Ebay and Aliexpress might actually help the overall GPU temps... 
 
BTW.. before this stock/XC3 cooled 3080 ti, I ran dual GTX980 Hybrids and also a single GTX1080 ti Hybrid for many years.  I tried every imaginable fan configuration from ultra slow fans to ultra high speed fans in both single PUSH and dual PUSH/PULL configurations (always as exhausts, either way) and found zero benefit with PUSH/PULL.  Your cards may be different, however so give it a shot.  I want to eventually install the hybrid kit on this 3080ti but since it is a 240mm radiator, the only spot in my case that's free is the bottom and I'm not sure if this will cause pump noise issues as the pump will be above the radiator.  I ran my single 120mm hybrid cards with the radiator at the bottom and it worked fine, super quiet but not sure about the larger radiator. 
 
Try to take some before/after measurements when installing the Kritical Pads ... would be interesting to know what you find in that regard...
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2021/12/31 15:42:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby s1rrah 2021/12/31 15:45:35
s1rrah
 
Before I ordered the Kritical pads I had just re pasted the GPU core with Noctua NH-1

Yeap, also what I use, pretty much as good as NH-2 but 70% price.
 
s1rrah
The backplate gets so damn hot that I wonder if adding one of those copper heatsinks and Aliexpress might actually help the overall GPU temps... 

 
Also my experience. I have a 3080 non-TI which has 2 less front VRAM pads empty (the ones on the top) and actually I have both cheap thermal pads stacked on my XC3, and I also took some raspberry pi heatsinks I had lying around and glued them to the backplate atop the place where pads are. Doesn't help that much, actually think it's worse on the XC3. Also have Gelid Extreme 3mm (12mK/W) on the 3080 FTW3 hybrid, and also doesn't make much of a difference, maybe 2C at an ambient temp of about 20C which I guess is better than my results on the XC3.
 

s1rrah
I want to eventually install the hybrid kit on this 3080ti

 
I wouldn't, but at least you have a choice. My experience with the 3080 FTW3 Hybrid is overall bad: I have horrible pump noise just 5 months in, using the rad atop the pump all the time as I have an inverted case. In regards to VRAM, the hybrid kits are bad because the water cooling isn't direct but through a mounting plate that needs to be pasted, and the air from the auxiliary, on-board fan isn't guided through the board but towerds the holes on the PCB, so there's really worse cooling on VRAM and other components of the board besides the GPU chip. The only good thing is that the AIO actually works well enough that the GPU dissipates enough to compensate, as it is the main heater on the PCB.
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2021/12/31 18:59:56 (permalink)
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I wouldn't, but at least you have a choice. My experience with the 3080 FTW3 Hybrid is overall bad: I have horrible pump noise just 5 months in, using the rad atop the pump all the time as I have an inverted case. In regards to VRAM, the hybrid kits are bad because the water cooling isn't direct but through a mounting plate that needs to be pasted, and the air from the auxiliary, on-board fan isn't guided through the board but towerds the holes on the PCB, so there's really worse cooling on VRAM and other components of the board besides the GPU chip. The only good thing is that the AIO actually works well enough that the GPU dissipates enough to compensate, as it is the main heater on the PCB.




That is great information.  I thought the design of the 30 series hybrid kits looked questionable in regards to VRAM temps and have been curious how the new kits handled that aspect of cooling the card.  The 980 and 1080 Hybrids I had were awesome, though and spoiled the hell out of me with their low to mid 50 degree Celsius core temps LOL; I see an average of about 65C - 70C in most games, generally in the mid/upper 60's with the new XC3 card and think I'm destroying it just cause I'm so used to insanely low temps previously.  I also miss the fact that just about all the GPU heat was exhausted out of the case when using the hybrids but not that big of a deal...

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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2021/12/31 19:16:46 (permalink)
yeah unfortunately I think other AIB partners have the upper hand on AIO models for 30 series. Exception may be the 3090 Kingpin but that's a unicorn anyway. It also pains me that there isn't a way to convert my hybrid to air cooled model because they only sell the Hybrid kit, not the air shroud+fans. I paid 100 more to boot for the hybrid, but I got less components than if I had bought the FTW3 Ultra and its hybrid kit... Not to mention I would get a set of extra thermal pads lol...
 
But let me clarify: the GPU temps are indeed very good on the hybrid. It's just that everything else on the PCB is an afterthought, and I've had fast pump failure. I believe design of the hybrids was rushed this generation.
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2022/01/01 05:59:11 (permalink)
What other brands are releasing hybrid 30 series?  I found this Asus Hybrid at MicroCenter for a mere ~$2000 LOL but user reviews there say their VRAM temps are still hitting 100C while the GPU core is great so it doesn't look like Asus' design is much different.  Amazingly, it's actually in stock and I probably shouldn't laugh at the price since I paid $1800 after taxes for my XC3 ... EVGA 5 year warranty and over all track record being the deciding factor, really ... also the fact I tend to invest and then keep GPU's three or more years...
 

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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2022/01/03 09:47:24 (permalink)
They did post official height somewhere. They're all oddball .25 and .75 increments so it doesn't line up with anything you can buy.
Compression is a factor also so you can buy something that looks good, then the compression ****s it up.

If I had known about K5 Pro sooner I would have gone for that.
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2022/01/03 09:55:37 (permalink)
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They did post official height somewhere. They're all oddball .25 and .75 increments so it doesn't line up with anything you can buy.
Compression is a factor also so you can buy something that looks good, then the compression ****s it up.

If I had known about K5 Pro sooner I would have gone for that.
https://www.computer-syst...duct/k5-pro-k4-pro-set




That K5 pro looks interesting ... would be nice to have in the tool kit for sure.  I've also heard of users getting very good results with the T-Global putty used in place of all thermal pads on 30 series GPUS ... it's been around for a long time and has been used by many ... rated at 10w/mk and would be quite easy to apply to VRAM chips that typically require any height of thermal pad from .5mm to 3mm and would naturally compress to whatever gap necessary.  It's spendy, though at about $30 per bottle and it would take at least one to two bottles for a single card ...
 
 

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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2022/01/03 11:54:57 (permalink)
Oh yeah ... re: the T-Global putty ... I replaced the stock EVGA pads with the Kritical pad set I had ordered about a month ago ... and also put T-Global putty in place of EVGA's putty ... overall memory temps dropped by 4C at max load which isn't much but my card was already in good shape temp wise with the stock thermal pads ... here's the numbers after 4 hours of constant gaming, fans at 70% (3080Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming) ... I ran a Nbminer EHT test for 15 minutes and memory hit 84C max which is still not bad if one is inclined to mine (which I'm not) but gaming temps are just fine and I'm not touching the damn thing again unless I see degradation in the future LOL:
 
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2022/01/03 14:23:55 (permalink)
Thermal conductivity ratings are not necessarily that useful a metric. 

The main idea of K5 Pro is that it won't seep out and is very very chemically stable.

I don't know about this other stuff.

I do know that K5 Pro was made specifically as a thermal pad replacement material. Even if the other stuff performs better part of the idea of K5 Pro is that it will last for a very long time.

Personally K5 Pro seems more appealing because I don't know about what claims the other stuff makes about longevity and stability. 

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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2022/01/03 17:03:50 (permalink)
Are these pads also good for the 3080 ti XC3 hydro copper? 
 
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2022/01/03 18:50:44 (permalink)
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Are these pads also good for the 3080 ti XC3 hydro copper? 

 
I have no clue but just message them off of their website ... there is a contact email.  I've found them to be quite responsive to inquiries and I know the owner is currently readying kits for Asus Strix cards and Gigabyte cards.  The currently available XC3 kit might work for you but message them to be sure.
 

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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2022/01/03 18:57:39 (permalink)
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Thermal conductivity ratings are not necessarily that useful a metric. 

The main idea of K5 Pro is that it won't seep out and is very very chemically stable.

I don't know about this other stuff.

I do know that K5 Pro was made specifically as a thermal pad replacement material. Even if the other stuff performs better part of the idea of K5 Pro is that it will last for a very long time.

Personally K5 Pro seems more appealing because I don't know about what claims the other stuff makes about longevity and stability. 




Have no clue how T-Global's stuff will age but will find out, I suppose.  I've read of others running it for up to a year and finding it still "putty like" and maleable when disassembling their gear ... but def no running or melting.  This thread has some info on it (and also K5) but not a whole lot... 

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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2022/02/14 20:10:49 (permalink)
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but has anyone used 3mm pads instead of 2.5 for this card? I re-padded a MSI 3080 and all the tutorials called for 1.5mm but my temps skyrocketed until I replaced them with 2mm. Using Gelid GP-Ultimate which seems a little more compressible than the OEM pads.
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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming? 2022/02/15 05:37:36 (permalink)
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Sorry to resurrect this thread, but has anyone used 3mm pads instead of 2.5 for this card? I re-padded a MSI 3080 and all the tutorials called for 1.5mm but my temps skyrocketed until I replaced them with 2mm. Using Gelid GP-Ultimate which seems a little more compressible than the OEM pads.



The pads shown as 2.5mm over the VRAM above actually come from EVGA as 2.25mm but since 2.25mm pads are very hard to source, one can simply use decently compressible 2.5mm pads there and get by just fine.  You can also order 2.25mm pads from Kritical Pads, who also sell whole, pre cut kits for all of the EVGA (and some others) 30 series cards. 

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Re: Thermal pad heights for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Gaming ((UNOFFICIAL) 2022/09/09 13:05:09 (permalink)
I always use ThermalRight thermal pads on graphic cards. It is really good.
Evga says VRAM uses 2.25mm thickness thermal pads. ThermalRight has no 2.25mm thickness.
I used 2.00mm on VRAM : VRAM heat is too high, core heat is good.
I used 2.50mm on VRAM : VRAM heat is good but the core heat is too high.
 
I ordered 2.25mm at kriticalpads.com I finally received my order after waitig for 22 days international delivery to Turkey. + I had to pay custom taxes %30 + custom clearence broker fee.
Yeah, it s little expensive for my country. But it's a good price for USA. I will try it. I think it will fit. I will share the results.
 
I wish Evga will use regular thicknes thermal pads in future graphic cards like 0.5mm, 1.00m, 1.50mm, 2.00mm, 2.50mm and 3.00mm.
I dont buy custom gpu thermal pads. I always buy each thickness and use them acording to needs because I change many graphic cards thermal pads.
You can buy custom gpu thermal pads at kriticalpads.com if you dont know how to measure the orginal ones.
 
ThermalRight makes 120mm X 120mm thermal pads. it is good for me.
Kriticalpads makes 100mm X 100mm thermal pads. I wish they make 120mm X 120mm thermal pads. There is always lost area while cutting the thermal pads.
Evga 3080 ti XC VRAM: 53mm X 14mm X 2.25mm Uhm, 53mm X 2 pieces = 106mm. And I always need some lost in the cutting area around 0.2mm
So 120mm X 120mm thermal pads are always better. But Only kriticalpads.com has 0.25mm thickness pads.
 
 
 
post edited by igotek - 2022/09/09 13:10:13
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