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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/05/14 14:25:21 (permalink)
Indeed it does. 


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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/05/15 08:23:45 (permalink)
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A lot of PC gamers are on old hardware fighting and carrying on like they have modern gaming PCs because their system meets bare minimum specs suggested by game.

Used to be people understood meet min spec that was your able to turn it on and maybe you don't crash. Ppl think oh I meet suggested so that means I get to play at ultra setting with RT mode at 60 FPS. Suggested is just the point at which you may actually get to play the game at a fine enough fps has nothing g to do with how good the graphics are.

Most gaming PCs are about 2011, on DDR3 and maybe they have a pascal card from 3 generations ago. People want to point at tech reviews acting like cause this claim is made on modern gear my old PC is still good cause I got that much cores, got that much ram, got that much vram.

The reality is that there are gamers that are playing modern games on really old pc, they are the ones jumping on the optimize bandwagon. These guys would not benefit from a graphics card as much as a whole new PC, in order to properly leverage the card.



I feel like that is an extreme minority, and it certainly isn't the norm on this forum. The people I see complaining about optimization on games are running things like 12900k and 3080/3090 or even 4090. Personally, I complained about BF2042 because even with an OC'd 12900k and 3080ti it was only using about 40% of the CPU and 70% of the GPU. It didn't get any better with 13900k either. I haven't played that game in months though, so they may have updated things. I'm just making a point that this is the sort of optimizations people have complained about on here, not people with GTX-670's complaining they can't run CP-2077 maxed out, as you seem to suggest. No offense, but I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/05/15 11:58:39 (permalink)
Ah, So you were making a generalization about other people complaining in other places that have nothing to do with this forum or this thread. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/05/26 07:19:08 (permalink)
lol..he said geforce 2 changed everything..anyone remember voodoo? 3dfx? ha..i just dated myself.

 
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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/05/26 09:53:49 (permalink)
The more I observe the recent fiscal in Vram and Video card performance, the clearer it becomes that the industry disregards the needs of gamers entirely. Furthermore, the lackluster optimization of new games is simply baffling. It's astonishing to note that the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 is considered the average video card on platforms like Steam (seriously, ****?) It seems we are stuck with mediocre hardware and subpar RMA services because there is no urgency to improve the hardware. The industry's focus has shifted to Wall Street rather than prioritizing customer satisfaction, resulting in the loss of various benefits we once enjoyed. Moreover, with the rise of AI, the gaming market is bound to suffer as the industry shifts its attention. However, as I mentioned earlier, I have already noticed a decline in video card prices due to the lack of demand, precisely as I predicted.

   
   
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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/05/26 10:16:13 (permalink)
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The more I observe the recent fiscal in Vram and Video card performance, the clearer it becomes that the industry disregards the needs of gamers entirely. Furthermore, the lackluster optimization of new games is simply baffling. It's astonishing to note that the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 is considered the average video card on platforms like Steam (seriously, ****?) It seems we are stuck with mediocre hardware and subpar RMA services because there is no urgency to improve the hardware. The industry's focus has shifted to Wall Street rather than prioritizing customer satisfaction, resulting in the loss of various benefits we once enjoyed. Moreover, with the rise of AI, the gaming market is bound to suffer as the industry shifts its attention. However, as I mentioned earlier, I have already noticed a decline in video card prices due to the lack of demand, precisely as I predicted.


I think a lot of it is we are still in the start of the next generation of console games when most everything is also made to run on PS4 and Xbox One. When we start getting into Unreal 5 games and no backwards compatibility for last generation consoles I think people might upgrade to better graphics cards. Hopefully by that time we get to the point where affordable graphics cards are an option.

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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/05/26 13:44:53 (permalink)
 I agree with python ,I'll date myself here to I have been around since the "Trident" 4mb cards came out for the 486 MB's. Voodoo, all of them still have 2x Voodo 5 cards behind glass. Ati then Nvidia through eVGA to many cards to count along with a bakers dozen of mobo's and odds and ends.
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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/06/06 10:44:34 (permalink)
I am also an EGVA user. My Dell laptop has a 4K OLED display and it can play Halo fine.
 

  


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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/02 09:48:04 (permalink)
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...~snip~
 
Yesterday I bought an Asus ROG Strix 4090 OC at several hundred dollars over retail. 
 
When I spent big bucks with EVGA, it felt like they cared. I felt safe. I knew if something wasn't right with the card, they'd do whatever was necessary to make sure I either had my money back or had a fully functioning card. I felt nothing good when I bought the asus. I've never gambled a day in my life... but that's what it felt like when I added the asus to my cart and checked out. It felt like I was standing in las vegas and put $2500 on blackjack. It felt hollow and gross. 
 
 
Oh, and by the way... I'm well aware that this is the internet, and there will be less than 1% of you that has anything constructive to say about any of this. The rest of you will get right to work engineering a post that is designed to make you feel good and me feel worse. Not to worry... do what you have to do. I won't care one way or the other.
 
This post was for me, and those that feel what I feel. No one else. Before this asus card arrived, I had to say goodbye, in my own way. 
 

Sorry I didn't see this post till today.
I hope you have better luck with your Asus gpu..
In my own experience...and I am not a gamer.
EVGA is top notch!
Warranty, customer service..thinking outside the box in satisfying customers needs...
All of the above I have personal experience.
I am still a supporter of the company...
Asus fans on their gpu's are inferior to EVGA gpu fans..all of my Asus 2060 gpu's were RMA'd over the years.
I RMA'd one EVGA 3080...All of the other 2060's and 3080's from EVGA are still working perfectly.
I have found that MSI X Trio 4090's to produce the most points per day, when folding, followed by the MSI Liquid Suprim (which comes with a very nice mouse pad)
The FE 4090 doesn't perform as well as the MSI's but, is almost, 3x as many points per day as my 3080's.
(unless you are dealing tough WU's, then the 3080's excel and the 4090's are at the 3080 level???)
I too have been a strong supporter of ASUS with their motherboards (exclusively) but was surprised by their overpriced gpu fan failures.
I, too, would be very interested in seeing what new technology that EVGA gets involved in..
 





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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/02 12:41:17 (permalink)
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I too have been a strong supporter of ASUS with their motherboards (exclusively) but was surprised by their overpriced gpu fan failures.

At the end, EVGA's fans were no good either. I mean, you had a 30xx series EVGA card fan fail too, right? NVIDIA has been gutting all the AIBs.
I, too, would be very interested in seeing what new technology that EVGA gets involved in..

Ha! EVGA would need to be sold to new investors and re-invented. Seems the owner is unlikely to do that. Otherwise EVGA is dead. EVGA is currently dead.

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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/02 13:05:29 (permalink)
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I too have been a strong supporter of ASUS with their motherboards (exclusively) but was surprised by their overpriced gpu fan failures.

ty_ger07
At the end, EVGA's fans were no good either. I mean, you had a 30xx series EVGA card fan fail too, right? ....

 
No...Sorry...it was some kind of update from either windows or Precision that caused it to brick
EVGA stepped right up...EVGA gpu's never had a fan failure..


SmookinJoeI, too, would be very interested in seeing what new technology that EVGA gets involved in..

 
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Ha! EVGA would need to be sold to new investors and re-invented. Seems the owner is unlikely to do that. Otherwise EVGA is dead. EVGA is currently dead.



 
Yeah we probably could all benefit from an overhaul in our thinking...lol
 EVGA product list agrees with you...
I am too much of a dreamer to give up hope...
It does feel bad thou...
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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/06 20:37:54 (permalink)
My first top end board was the EVGA 8800 GTX, and I feel the same way as Orkan, but I had hopes that EVGA would enter the GPU market again.  After I heard that the CEO said it wasn't profitable, only Motherboards and PSUs made money, I realized he didn't really want anybody to hang around, save bankruptcy.  He must want to sell at commodity prices, not $800 motherboards; a side note, I miss the old stinger boards, now you have to buy a whopper case or nearly that if you want EVGA.  I read the posts here and the personnel exits that I didn't know about are alarming.  I don't do forums unless I have a problem.  If EVGA becomes a label on a generic product, its a fire sale like Sears & Roebuck.  Only a fool could do this to a company that was that much better than the rest for the American consumer, why not expand to other markets at a different price point?  Top it off, Mod Rigs is down, another place hard to find an equal show case for nonprofessionals.  I guess they laid off so many people, the boss has to sweep the money up off the floor himself  I would love to see the all-star team comeback together somewhere, and I wish they could buy their label back too.  Shark Tank it.  It's love not banking.  If EVGA was in such bad shape, they could Shark Tank too.  There is no excuse for not risking it, unless you didn't believe in what you was needed of you.  I fear global garbage and not innovation, is what the world will inherit.  EVGA's 4090, was a potential masterpiece at a glance, just their take on the board, not the actual 4090 vs other generations.  I went to PNY and wish they would step up, but I think their finances are more from an industrial base rather than consumer or the enthusiast base.  Asus had the best voltage option on the 4090, but I was trying to keep some American interest in it because of the attack on currencies and central bank manipulations.  I won't forget the EVGA difference though.  I miss the EVGA gone by.  I don't have perfect information, I just browse, not test and study, so take what I say with a grain of salt.  I do enjoy reading your post when I do.

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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/07 09:33:29 (permalink)
Well there's this : https://youtu.be/UdbanI3rNwo
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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/07 10:01:14 (permalink)
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Well there's this : https://youtu.be/UdbanI3rNwo

Sigh...
Alright I give up






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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/07 10:08:42 (permalink)
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Well there's this : https://youtu.be/UdbanI3rNwo

Sigh...
Alright I give up




Yeah...none of us wanted this. It definitely sucks.

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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/09 03:56:45 (permalink)
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Well there's this : https://youtu.be/UdbanI3rNwo

We should probably start an our goodbye's thread before the forum suddenly shuts down.
 
As far as the OP's closing of a chapter and emptiness feeling coupled with a bit of betrayal, I know exactly how that feels. I felt it with 3DFX, OCZ, DFI, and BFI. Sadly, companies don't all live long, but we can have hope. Hope another great company steps up to the podium to provide consumers another great community, amazing product, and a signature service.

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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/09 07:45:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2023/07/09 15:17:04
Apparently those rumors were false. Kingpin is still with EVGA: https://www.techpowerup.com/310955/evga-withdraws-from-the-motherboard-market
 
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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/09 09:15:14 (permalink)
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Apparently those rumors were false. Kingpin is still with EVGA: https://www.techpowerup.com/310955/evga-withdraws-from-the-motherboard-market
 


 Taken from the above link.... 
We saw those message and they are rumors.
Our Taiwan office is still operating and Kingpin is still with EVGA.
EVGA is still doing business and supporting its customers.
Thanks for reaching out
 
Flybye

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We should probably start an our goodbye's thread before the forum suddenly shuts down.
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No, can't agree...

 
 





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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/10 04:03:44 (permalink)
I thought it was over...... long time customer.. new lurker, glad to see some life still left





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post edited by ryet9 - 2023/07/10 04:08:39
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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/10 08:45:32 (permalink)
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Apparently those rumors were false. Kingpin is still with EVGA: https://www.techpowerup.com/310955/evga-withdraws-from-the-motherboard-market
 


still with EVGA "for now".

doesn't mean that EVGA isn't fully aware of their plans to have different employment in the near future.

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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/10 17:30:15 (permalink)
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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/10 21:05:45 (permalink)
I personally hope EVGA can reconcile with Nvidia and get back on board with the 5 series cards. Maybe this is a dream but I agree the world just feels wrong with EVGA not producing GPU cards. Back in the late 1980s the VGA cards and monitors came on the market and my friends and I would be blown away by the graphics at computer trade shows. We all grew up with monochrome monitors and some of us Hercules graphics cards.
 
I recently received in the mail the original IBM XT that I grew up with from a relative. They had it in storage. The monochrome monitor and keyboard was also included! I have no idea if the system will even boot up and have not had a chance to look at it. The computer case has a few dents that I will try to get out. I'll see how well she cleans up and might have to paint the case again. Or maybe just leave it as is to maintain the authenticity.
 
My point is back then VGA or Video Graphics Array is all we talked about almost everyday. Not too long after my mother bought a VGA monitor and card for me. I was still in school at the time. Then the graphics card was updated to a Matrox Millennium and a Matrox M3D which really did not work out as well as the Voodoo GPUs.
 
VGA is synonymous with graphics and my wish is for EVGA to get back into that business.
 
I have 24 EVGA graphics cards and over a dozen EVGA power supplies. Their PSUs have been rock solid and I had good experiences with the GPUs as well. I had an issue with a 3090 fan that fell off but the fan ran at 100% speed for a while. The card still worked fine but I did RMA it. EVGA replaced the card and their support was great! 
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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/10 21:12:23 (permalink)
Edit: I actually have 26 EVGA GPUs. I have two Geforce 8800 Ultra cards as well. They both work but I've had to bake them in the oven a few times when they developed graphical issues. One day I will use a heat gun and repair them properly. The cards are in storage along with the computers they were in.
 
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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/12 05:39:04 (permalink)
The Framechasers vid is brutal...
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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/12 16:37:59 (permalink)
My Gigabyte 4090 OC is doing good but man I sure miss having an EVGA GPU along with Precision X for it. Gigabyte OC software is not much in comparision to Precision X.  I too so hope EVGA reconsider their stance when it comes time for the 50xx series.

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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/13 09:37:38 (permalink)
Yeah feels like there some kind of ending coming not sure when but just feels like its coming. Differently going to shadow box my EVGA 3090 TI when I upgrade to the 4000 Series or 5000

   
   
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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/13 10:31:24 (permalink)
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 Yesterday I bought an Asus ROG Strix 4090 OC at several hundred dollars over retail. 
 
When I spent big bucks with EVGA, it felt like they cared. I felt safe. I knew if something wasn't right with the card, they'd do whatever was necessary to make sure I either had my money back or had a fully functioning card. I felt nothing good when I bought the asus. I've never gambled a day in my life... but that's what it felt like when I added the asus to my cart and checked out. It felt like I was standing in las vegas and put $2500 on blackjack. It felt hollow and gross.

 
I read that now for the first time...

I know exactly what you mean. I had problems with a new "Hero" and neither the official support or the -forum could help. They (ASUS) downplayed the inadequateness. In the end, the seller took it back, - that was fair.

I'm not in a hurry, not anymore, with a new GPU. TBH it's just sad. Hopefully, it will not continue like that with EVGA.
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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/13 11:56:17 (permalink)
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When I spent big bucks with EVGA, it felt like they cared. I felt safe. I knew if something wasn't right with the card, they'd do whatever was necessary to make sure I either had my money back or had a fully functioning card. I felt nothing good when I bought the asus. I've never gambled a day in my life... but that's what it felt like when I added the asus to my cart and checked out. It felt like I was standing in las vegas and put $2500 on blackjack. It felt hollow and gross.

So the problem with EVGA cards that they were "looking into" 2 years ago, never commented on again, and continue to ignore every customer request on the subject, is not comparably bad?
 
I swore off buying EVGA when their 30xx series cards had problems which weren't getting fixed.   I swore off their motherboards long before that. EVGA is dead to me, so good thing EVGA is pretty much dead.

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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/14 05:08:47 (permalink)
Flybye
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Well there's this : https://youtu.be/UdbanI3rNwo

We should probably start an our goodbye's thread before the forum suddenly shuts down.
 
As far as the OP's closing of a chapter and emptiness feeling coupled with a bit of betrayal, I know exactly how that feels. I felt it with 3DFX, OCZ, DFI, and BFI. Sadly, companies don't all live long, but we can have hope. Hope another great company steps up to the podium to provide consumers another great community, amazing product, and a signature service.


Uh, maan, DFI hurt..... that sucked when they quit. Nobody else was really doing mobos like them back then.

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Re: The industry feels dead now. 2023/07/16 09:19:06 (permalink)
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lol..he said geforce 2 changed everything..anyone remember voodoo? 3dfx? ha..i just dated myself.


 
I had a Voodoo card way back when
 

  


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