How can you hate WASD?
 
Also get a controller, the games more enjoyable with it.

This is one of thos games that doesn't play well for me at all with the KB/M.
 
Odd that they don't let you custom the key inputs at all, since you know...its the PC and all.
 
Since its been like this since launch I doubt they'll patch it anytime soon.
 

_Nite_

I just always have hated WASD, I'm a arrow key user for everything. I'm not the only one either, thier is a big long thread with others complaining of it too.

http://forums.steampowere...owthread.php?t=2873636

http://forums.sleepingdog...pic.php?f=6&t=1164

I do have a xbox 360 controller but still.... I prefer to use keyboard / mouse, it worked fine when I played Saints Row The Third, GTA, Mafia, etc.

I hate WASD also.. I always thought.....Why would you use WASD, when there are dedicated arrow keys ?
Thats how i learned to play... so everything is bound to the right side of my KB.
This is beneficial when using a mouse, as you can move the KB far to the left when just using the right side of it...thus giving you more room for your mouse.
I see people(read Friends), using wasd on a smallish desk, and having about a 6" x 6"  area for the mouse... seems that would be harder for me.
Now about that non binding issue...what kind of keyboard do you use, i know some of the higher end boards with there own keybinding/macro programs would be able to do this.
Are there other keys bound to the arrows ?  If so can you unbind them ?
 
Sorry the long post.. just want to share/help.
 

 
WASD=The way games are mean't to be played.       ;)

 
^ I can understand that. It's not for everyone, but has worked for me for many, many years.

It should be arrow keys, but WASD is more comfortable to use and you still have the keyboard for your right hand. -)

Enad1

Who would ever use arrow yes, that's THE most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

PC Gamers these days...

 
I can get it if they want inverted controls on the PC but the whole arrow keys thing is a bit off..

boredgunner

tet5uo

XrayMan


WASD=The way games are mean't to be played.       ;)

I have an injured finger from years ago that never healed properly. The ring-finger on my left hand is now just a hook that gets in the way of using WASD. The arrow keys have nothing under them which makes them usable for me to game with.

Games that don't have re-bindable arrow keys are usually the worst  ports and aren't worth my money.

It's actually a good port overall, but it's strange how they don't allow for this.  Oh well, I guess you better get used to WASD Nite.  A controller is not the way to go, it's even worse than arrow keys. 

 
A controller IS THE way to go for a game like this.

boredgunner

Rei86

A controller IS THE way to go for a game like this.

Why?  You gain nothing from a controller, I suppose the only real difference is reduced turning speed and shooting accuracy, since I don't think Sleeping Dogs has hotkeys for anything.  Otherwise mouse and keyboard is just more comfortable in my opinion, compared to grasping a controller the whole time.  The only thing a controller is better for is driving.

 
Better for driving, combat, and movement.
 
The KB/M has never been amazing for 3rd person action games, platformers, and racing. 

boredgunner

Rei86

Better for driving, combat, and movement.

The KB/M has never been amazing for 3rd person action games, platformers, and racing. 

It isn't better for combat in any way, or movement.  I find mouse and keyboard to be much better for platforming, since you can direct your movement more accurately with a mouse.  In the Crysis games for example, there's a number of platforming things that just cannot be done via controller.  I never understood why people claim controllers are better for everything but FPS games?  For 3rd person action games, mouse and keyboard again provides better turn speed, and hotkeys so you don't have to navigate through menus to equip items.  These games also tend to take advantage of PC having a bunch of keys.

Controllers are only better for driving since they have pressure sensitive buttons (only the triggers on XBOX 360) for acceleration control.  Otherwise they're totally gimped and limit most games.

 
Crysis is at core a FPS.
 
Super Meat Boy is a Platformer.
 
Dare you to play with a KB/M vs someone with a controller in that game.
 
 

Rei86

Crysis is at core a FPS. 

Super Meat Boy is a Platformer. 

Dare you to play with a KB/M vs someone with a controller in that game. 

 
 
IT'S ON.  Crysis was just an example, I've been playing Banjo Kazooie with mouse and keyboard and it's much better than a controller.
 

Johnny_Utah

This, period.  If you cannot rebind keys, I will NOT purchase the game.

 
You can rebind keys, but it's limited as this thread shows.  

boredgunner

Rei86

Crysis is at core a FPS. 

Super Meat Boy is a Platformer. 

Dare you to play with a KB/M vs someone with a controller in that game. 

 

IT'S ON.  Crysis was just an example, I've been playing Banjo Kazooie with mouse and keyboard and it's much better than a controller.

 
Go ahead, you won't be able to make the precises jumps in SMB as you could with a controller.
 
KB/M isn't the best controller option for every game out on the market.  And Sleeping Dogs just plays better with a standard controller.

boredgunner

Rei86

And Sleeping Dogs just plays better with a standard controller.

You still haven't given any reasons why, so I suppose you just prefer the feel and don't care for actual benefits given by keyboard/mouse.

 
What benefits would I get with KB/M? 
- Aiming when doing a shoot out?  And how many times do you do that in Sleeping Dogs VS combo hand to hand fights?  Which requires delayed button presses and holds?
 
- Driving?  Oh hell no is the KB/M better in this aspect.  Unless you don't wanna actually play the game and use a taxi.
 
Sleeping Dogs, GTA, Saints Row the Third are better off with a controller VS the KB/M
 
I know this is a

For PC gamers but not ever game is better with a KB/M
Now if you'll excuse me back to BF3 with my KB/M setup  

I'm not sure but Joy to Key might make it so you can rebind your arrow keys into WASD.

boredgunner
Yeah like I said controller is better for driving since you can actually control how much throttle and steering you want, but apart from that it has no benefit for most games, including Sleeping Dogs/GTA/Saints Row.  It does nothing for the hand-to-hand fighting system, so it mostly comes down to preference vs actual benefits (regarding Sleeping Dogs).

 
I agree
 

boredgunner
But I have trouble imagining playing with arrow keys... you'd need a really wide desk I guess, but it seems very inconvenient.  

 

It works for me. In most games I use this config: arrow keys for movement/driving, RSHIFT for run, RCTRL for Crouch, left mouse to fire, right mouse to aim, middle mouse wheel for weapon select, middle mouse wheel button for jump, mouse button 4 for interact, mouse button 5 for melee
 
as for Planes and Choppers I use the Number Key pad, 8 for forward, 2 for back, 4 and 6 for side to side or steering, 9 for throttle up, 1 for throttle down, again using the mouse for fireing when doing this.
 
The only time I really have to reach across the keyboard is if I reload a gun or throw a grenade (R and G), but thats ussually when I'm behind cover and not moving so it works out.
 
I completed Saints Row The Third, Mafia 1 and 2, Just Cause 2, Far Cry 3, GTA4, etc to 100% using this config