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2017/03/06 05:40:14 (permalink)
Can we have a single slot GTX 1080 Ti hydro copper, pretty please? 
 
The card is almost asking for it with only display port and hdmi adapters now. 
 

 
Remember your GTX 980Ti KPE Hydro Copper? That thing was single slot and it was so nice. 

 
Only problem was it came out so late it was almost obsolete by the time it was released...
 
Can we get some of these hydro coppers soon ish? Tell swiftech to go measure some Titan XP cards and start churning them out already :D

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 08:49:39 (permalink)
    Don't mind too much about single slot or not, but I really hope they bring out a hydrocpper 1080Ti a bit more quickly this time compared to the 1080 that took blooming ages.
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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 08:52:37 (permalink)
    if the hydrocopper block is a swift tech I would not get one. EK or Bitspower should be making it IMO. 
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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 09:03:06 (permalink)
    EVGA and EK had a falling out and EVGA had to go look for another block manufacturer. That's why it took so long for the 1080 hydro coppers to come out and why the initial launch teasers looked slightly different than the final launch 1080HC's. The swiftech blocks are actually very similar to the first gen EK Hydro Coppers. The way EVGA lights the block is the same. We are almost definetly not going to get an EK hydro copper this time around. 
     
    That said, seeing as the Swiftech already makes a Titan XP block, all EVGA needs to do is to call them up and order some made the same way as the 1080's and they're done. No need to fully redesign everything over again.  
     
    EK Hydro Copper

     
    Swiftech Hydro Copper

     

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 10:04:44 (permalink)
    That would be a very Heavy Card to support with only one slot screw holding in in the case you would need some kind of support for it.

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 10:49:07 (permalink)
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    That would be a very Heavy Card to support with only one slot screw holding in in the case you would need some kind of support for it.


    You think? I don't see why. 
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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 10:56:28 (permalink)
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    That would be a very Heavy Card to support with only one slot screw holding in in the case you would need some kind of support for it.


    You think? I don't see why. 


    If you had an HC Water Block then you would know, they are very heavy plus add a back plate and even heaver.
    I have 14 HC Water Blocks as long as they are in a Vertical Position it not an issue but it is when they are in a Horizontal Position.
    Looking at using the below support for my current rigs that are in the Horizontal Position.
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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 11:14:00 (permalink)
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    That would be a very Heavy Card to support with only one slot screw holding in in the case you would need some kind of support for it.


    You think? I don't see why. 


    If you had an HC Water Block then you would know, they are very heavy plus add a back plate and even heaver.
    I have 14 HC Water Blocks as long as they are in a Vertical Position it not an issue but it is when they are in a Horizontal Position.
    Looking at using the below support for my current rigs that are in the Horizontal Position.
    Puget Systems Universal Acrylic GPU Brace




     
    Heavy? Yes. However, with the backplate and waterblock, the cards are very stiff so the cards themselves don't really sag that much, at least I haven't found any sagging in any of my watercooled systems in the past. 



    Now, going from 2 slots down to one slot? Perhaps it might impact the sagging a little, but I doubt it will make THAT big of a difference. I'd still want to go single slot to get two cards on a single mATX board. Heck, I've went as far as to conentplate cutting off the extra DVI connector on the card. XD 

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 11:18:42 (permalink)
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    Heavy? Yes. However, with the backplate and waterblock, the cards are very stiff so the cards themselves don't really sag that much, at least I haven't found any sagging in any of my watercooled systems in the past. 
     

    It is the PCIe Slot that you need to think about, the weight pressure on the Slot that is.

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 11:20:39 (permalink)
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    Heavy? Yes. However, with the backplate and waterblock, the cards are very stiff so the cards themselves don't really sag that much, at least I haven't found any sagging in any of my watercooled systems in the past. 
     

    It is the PCIe Slot that you need to think about, the weight pressure on the Slot that is.




    No, I totally get that. A second screw will help BUT have you seen how the back PCIe slot is attached to the PCB? There might be a couple screws on the I/O but it usually only has one screw on the PCB. It's actually really flimsy. 

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 11:24:59 (permalink)
    What is nice is when you have 3 or 4 cards with a good SLI (Water Block) it helps but no one makes one that will work with the HC.
    I am hoping that EVGA comes out with one this year.

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 11:31:30 (permalink)
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    What is nice is when you have 3 or 4 cards with a good SLI (Water Block) it helps but no one makes one that will work with the HC.
    I am hoping that EVGA comes out with one this year.




    Tell me about it...
     
    I used to pull all three cards out at the same time and just leave it in this configuration when I needed to get the cards out. When you have both the SLI terminal and 3 way SLI bridge on there, it was as solid as a rock. 
     


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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 12:01:31 (permalink)
    EVGA needs to sell a single slot bracket or sell replacement double slot brackets for people like me who will cut them in half.  My mobo has metal reinforced PCIe slots, I'm not concerned with the weight of the block twisting it in a single slot mount config.
     
    And yeah, considering the Ti is waterblock compatible with the XP, the HC should have no excuse to not be launched quickly.

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 14:34:36 (permalink)
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    What is nice is when you have 3 or 4 cards with a good SLI (Water Block) it helps but no one makes one that will work with the HC.
    I am hoping that EVGA comes out with one this year.




    Tell me about it...
     
    I used to pull all three cards out at the same time and just leave it in this configuration when I needed to get the cards out. When you have both the SLI terminal and 3 way SLI bridge on there, it was as solid as a rock. 
     





    if they do come out with a block for the HC i'm down!  Otherwise I might wait and see when EK releases their blocks.   I'm still torn between getting the 1080ti HC or just a FTW and putting some ek blocks on it.  The downside is, only 1 system has WC so once I upgrade, HC versions would be useless unless I either WC another system or sell them.   Well doesn't seem like anyone's in a rush to release anything so I have some time to think ^_^....that and my case wont get here till end of april anyways.

     
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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 14:44:10 (permalink)
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    That would be a very Heavy Card to support with only one slot screw holding in in the case you would need some kind of support for it.


    You think? I don't see why. 


    If you had an HC Water Block then you would know, they are very heavy plus add a back plate and even heaver.
    I have 14 HC Water Blocks as long as they are in a Vertical Position it not an issue but it is when they are in a Horizontal Position.
    Looking at using the below support for my current rigs that are in the Horizontal Position.





     
    Heavy? Yes. However, with the backplate and waterblock, the cards are very stiff so the cards themselves don't really sag that much, at least I haven't found any sagging in any of my watercooled systems in the past. 



    Now, going from 2 slots down to one slot? Perhaps it might impact the sagging a little, but I doubt it will make THAT big of a difference. I'd still want to go single slot to get two cards on a single mATX board. Heck, I've went as far as to conentplate cutting off the extra DVI connector on the card. XD 




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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 16:58:22 (permalink)
    I wish they'd make an AIO as thin as custom blocks are, the thinner the better in my opinion.

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 17:13:06 (permalink)
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    I wish they'd make an AIO as thin as custom blocks are, the thinner the better in my opinion.


    You have to remember the HC move Water only and the Hybrid moves Air and Water.

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/06 17:16:20 (permalink)
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    I wish they'd make an AIO as thin as custom blocks are, the thinner the better in my opinion.


    You have to remember the HC move Water only and the Hybrid moves Air and Water.


    Which is why I've stated before, I hope EVGA makes a full covered AIO instead of the hybrids, it is possible:



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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/07 22:20:56 (permalink)
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    That would be a very Heavy Card to support with only one slot screw holding in in the case you would need some kind of support for it.


    You think? I don't see why. 


    If you had an HC Water Block then you would know, they are very heavy plus add a back plate and even heaver.
    I have 14 HC Water Blocks as long as they are in a Vertical Position it not an issue but it is when they are in a Horizontal Position.
    Looking at using the below support for my current rigs that are in the Horizontal Position.



    First time posting guys, hello.
    Im currently using an Asus Rampage V Edition 10 Motherboard with reinforced PCIe slots but I still use one of these exact brackets to hold up my card. It functions very well and is something I wish I would've had since the day I was rocking a 660ti. Just thought I would give my two cents on the bracket, but single stack HC 1080 Ti FTW would be perfecttttt. 
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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/08 10:53:01 (permalink)
    Welcome to the Forum HoodPope
    Thanks for that info.

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/08 10:54:02 (permalink)
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    I wish they'd make an AIO as thin as custom blocks are, the thinner the better in my opinion.


    You have to remember the HC move Water only and the Hybrid moves Air and Water.


    Which is why I've stated before, I hope EVGA makes a full covered AIO instead of the hybrids, it is possible:
     

    They are still 2 Slot Cards, but your opinion has been noted.
    The EVGA Hybrid is an AIO Unit to note.

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/08 11:03:50 (permalink)
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    Heavy? Yes. However, with the backplate and waterblock, the cards are very stiff so the cards themselves don't really sag that much, at least I haven't found any sagging in any of my watercooled systems in the past. 
     

    It is the PCIe Slot that you need to think about, the weight pressure on the Slot that is.




     
    Most of the top mobo mfg (ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE and MSI) have reinforced PCI-E slots. That should help to reduce issues with heavy GPU's.


     
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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/08 12:31:59 (permalink)
    Going with liquid cooled VGA is much more practical from sagging point of view. Air cooled cards are just big chunks of radiator with some PCB attached on one side. Freaking enormous. 
     
    Liquid cooled cards are much easier to handle. Weight of the card is usually concentrated near the core. A lot of manufacturers create only cooper-nickel base for parts where it matters leaving acrylic to cover everything else. This makes card very light at the edges and thus much less prone to sagging. Going with any form of rigid tubing largely/totally eliminates the problem by acting as additional support. Of course the easiest setup is 90 degree (Silverstone or now Thermaltake in e.g. Tower 900) - you can basically hang a car. :) Reverse ATX is also excellent as card(s) is(are) kept level from below. 
     
    Running few liquid cooled rigs and I have no issues with sagging VGAs whatsoever, be it enormous GTX690 or GTX970. On the other hand 1080 which I received couple days ago just in testing sags like mad. I've got so used to cooling with liquid that I'm totally freaked out by these ginormous air cooled cards (like MSI GTX580 TF3 I have, Behemoth with B!). I can't guarantee that problems won't arise when using new Glacier FTW waterblocks from Phanteks. These are net 1.6kg for the block alone! Nuts. That's extremely heavy. I don't know about HC weight - and Swiftech doesn't exist in Europe in any form. I'm against blocks which aren't transparent acrylic over all important things, but my GTX690 Heatkiller block according to specs is only 1.2kg spread across two enormous GPU cores. I don't know what for Phanteks going so extreme, as at some point adding more thickness to the cooling plate becomes irrelevant and total waste of time/money while increasing stress on the PCB. One fault of Phanteks Glacier I discovered is that block is directional which means it doesn't have universal inlet/outlet apertures - that's insta-Fail in my book.
     
    For 1080Ti I expect single slot bracket (family not only Hydro-Copper) and if not available I will certainly cut mine.
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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/08 12:50:06 (permalink)
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    Going with liquid cooled VGA is much more practical from sagging point of view. Air cooled cards are just big chunks of radiator with some PCB attached on one side. Freaking enormous. 
     
    Liquid cooled cards are much easier to handle. Weight of the card is usually concentrated near the core. A lot of manufacturers create only cooper-nickel base for parts where it matters leaving acrylic to cover everything else. This makes card very light at the edges and thus much less prone to sagging. Going with any form of rigid tubing largely/totally eliminates the problem by acting as additional support. Of course the easiest setup is 90 degree (Silverstone or now Thermaltake in e.g. Tower 900) - you can basically hang a car. :) Reverse ATX is also excellent as card(s) is(are) kept level from below. 
     
    Running few liquid cooled rigs and I have no issues with sagging VGAs whatsoever, be it enormous GTX690 or GTX970. On the other hand 1080 which I received couple days ago just in testing sags like mad. I've got so used to cooling with liquid that I'm totally freaked out by these ginormous air cooled cards (like MSI GTX580 TF3 I have, Behemoth with B!). I can't guarantee that problems won't arise when using new Glacier FTW waterblocks from Phanteks. These are net 1.6kg for the block alone! Nuts. That's extremely heavy. I don't know about HC weight - and Swiftech doesn't exist in Europe in any form. I'm against blocks which aren't transparent acrylic over all important things, but my GTX690 Heatkiller block according to specs is only 1.2kg spread across two enormous GPU cores. I don't know what for Phanteks going so extreme, as at some point adding more thickness to the cooling plate becomes irrelevant and total waste of time/money while increasing stress on the PCB. One fault of Phanteks Glacier I discovered is that block is directional which means it doesn't have universal inlet/outlet apertures - that's insta-Fail in my book.
     
    For 1080Ti I expect single slot bracket (family not only Hydro-Copper) and if not available I will certainly cut mine.


    I really do hope that EVGA releases a GTX 1080Ti HC Model, I never found a standard GTX 1080 HC Model for sale.
    I had to buy the HC for my GTX 1080 and maybe it is best as you can use your own TIM.
    I have no real need for any type of an FTW HC Model Card so I will keep an Eye Out this few weeks coming.

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/08 15:31:28 (permalink)
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    Heavy? Yes. However, with the backplate and waterblock, the cards are very stiff so the cards themselves don't really sag that much, at least I haven't found any sagging in any of my watercooled systems in the past. 




    The card may not bend due to the block, but it can sag in its mounting slot. On my old X58 GB board the GTX 480 Hydro was so heavy it could slip partially out of the slot with just one screw used. I found that out after moving the desktop to blow it out.
     
    After a year the weight began to affect the PCIe slot. It got to the point that even if the card was firmly secured with a screw a light nudge, say a bump from a passing hand could cause that GB system to hard lock. Two screws from a double-height bracket blocks enough movement to prevent that from happening. It made me glad that modern motherboards will lock the GPU in properly, but still you don't want to put the full weight of the card on the PCIe slot.
     
    The point is moot though. EVGA can very easily include single and dual-slot brackets with its Hydrocopper cards if it wants to and I think that's the best option. 
    post edited by kougar - 2017/03/08 15:33:33


    Have water, will cool. 
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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/09 23:22:24 (permalink)
    Is it confirmed that EVGA will release a water-cooled 1080Ti? If so, when?
     
    I'm planning to make an upgrade from my 780Ti, which I self have made to be water-cooled. If we have to have wait too long, I probably will by a Founders Edition and buy a water-cooled cooling-plate instead, but I would prefer, and would absolutely buy and EVGA Watercooled GPU, but I do not want to wait too long.
     
    After have switching from air-cooled to water-cooled, I'll we never go back!
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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/10 07:48:19 (permalink)
    I am ok with either. I just hope they release them sooner than later, so I can complete my build.

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/14 02:52:54 (permalink)
    I would love to see a single slot I/O bracket, because with the 1080TIs display port layout it is finally possible to put 7 GPUs into a system without cutting off the DVI, something several GPU render / Octane freelancers like me have already done ...

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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/14 09:09:29 (permalink)
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    Is it confirmed that EVGA will release a water-cooled 1080Ti? If so, when?
     
    I'm planning to make an upgrade from my 780Ti, which I self have made to be water-cooled. If we have to have wait too long, I probably will by a Founders Edition and buy a water-cooled cooling-plate instead, but I would prefer, and would absolutely buy and EVGA Watercooled GPU, but I do not want to wait too long.
     
    After have switching from air-cooled to water-cooled, I'll we never go back!


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    Re: Single Slot GTX 1080 Ti Hydro Copper 2017/03/16 16:43:24 (permalink)
    First time posting because I want to add my name to the growing list of people looking for a HC 1080ti.
     
    For me a AIO is pointless because I've already invested in a custom loop and a air-cooler won't fit in my mITX case so the HC edition card is by far the best off the shelf upgrade.
     
    As far as I know EVGA is the only company to offer a factory installed water block so I hope they keep producing them.
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