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2015/11/10 12:35:26 (permalink)
Who here has any SBRs, or any NFA item for that matter? Let's see them!!!

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/10 12:40:25 (permalink)
    Too rich for my blood.



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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/10 13:44:07 (permalink)
    ^ yea that and I dont feel like waiting 4-6 months for paper work to go through while paying a $200 tax stamp to reduce a inch off of my 16inch barrel. I also dont feel like paying $800-$1000 for a suppressor along with another $200 for the tax stamp and paper work wait. BUT the only time and I would SBR something is if I owned one of these rifles. Its so retarded how you have to shoot that on your cheek and not on your shoulder if you have the arm brace. So I would buy CZ's arm brace and do the paper work and that would be my only NFA item.
     
    By the way did you guys see this bill about suppressors? I feel like it wont pass with the president to sign due to his stance on firearms. Maybe it could pass through the house and senate.
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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/10 18:49:55 (permalink)
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    ^ yea that and I dont feel like waiting 4-6 months for paper work to go through while paying a $200 tax stamp to reduce a inch off of my 16inch barrel. I also dont feel like paying $800-$1000 for a suppressor along with another $200 for the tax stamp and paper work wait. BUT the only time and I would SBR something is if I owned one of these rifles. Its so retarded how you have to shoot that on your cheek and not on your shoulder if you have the arm brace. So I would buy CZ's arm brace and do the paper work and that would be my only NFA item.
     
    By the way did you guys see this bill about suppressors? I feel like it wont pass with the president to sign due to his stance on firearms. Maybe it could pass through the house and senate.

    Not going to happen lol. That is a neat bill, but I give it a 1% chance of passing.
     
    I don't have any guns (yet)  but it seems like an SBR would be of relatively limited use for civilians. Personally, I plan on getting a Kimber 1911, Walther PPK, and a Bushmaster ACR 6.8mm eventually.

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/10 20:26:56 (permalink)
    Does a sawed off 12 gauge count? How about a homemade suppressor from a paint roller duct tape and some fiber fill?

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/10 22:42:33 (permalink)
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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/11 00:03:36 (permalink)
    @JustinHEMI
    is the MP40 in good working conditon?
    would love to see a pic of it as soon as you have it.

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/11 05:56:58 (permalink)
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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/11 06:55:22 (permalink)
    Would love to see pics! MP40 is one of my favorite guns.

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/11 18:33:41 (permalink)
    Nice! I'm building an SBR with a 10.3" barrel right now... Next I'll be building a true Mk18 SOPMOD clone with all the cool stuff from colt!

    Haz if you get the sig brace it transfers as a pistol.

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/11 19:48:54 (permalink)
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    Nice! I'm building an SBR with a 10.3" barrel right now... Next I'll be building a true Mk18 SOPMOD clone with all the cool stuff from colt!

    Haz if you get the sig brace it transfers as a pistol.

    My bad dude yeah I know that LOL. I was ranting about the brace and I accidentally typed brace again since I had it on my mind.  I meant to say the stock that CZ came out with.
     
    This is the stock I am talking about.
    https://www.k-var.com/sho...R/922-SCORPIONKIT.html
     
     
     
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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/11 20:37:01 (permalink)
    It is my favorite gun. It is a great shooter and so simple in function. I did put some new trigger springs in and lightened the pull by half.

    If you get a chance to get one, you won't regret it.

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/12 04:56:47 (permalink)
    Not really sure I care if it has a 'use for civilians'...
     
    I should still be able to buy it without jumping thru hoops if I have the money. All the idiotic taxes, stamps and BS.

    The second amendment is all I need to buy something like that.

    Hell, cars and abortions kill more people than firearms (outside of war, mind you)...but do you want to ban those?
     

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/12 06:04:56 (permalink)
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    Not really sure I care if it has a 'use for civilians'...
     
    I should still be able to buy it without jumping thru hoops if I have the money. All the idiotic taxes, stamps and BS.

    The second amendment is all I need to buy something like that.

    Hell, cars and abortions kill more people than firearms (outside of war, mind you)...but do you want to ban those?
     
    Competition shooting, Target shooting, home defense, hunting, fishing, I have property rights and should be be able to buy what I want.

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/12 06:04:56 (permalink)
    Double post

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/12 06:30:51 (permalink)
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    Not really sure I care if it has a 'use for civilians'...
     
    I should still be able to buy it without jumping thru hoops if I have the money. All the idiotic taxes, stamps and BS.

    The second amendment is all I need to buy something like that.

    Hell, cars and abortions kill more people than firearms (outside of war, mind you)...but do you want to ban those?
     
    Competition shooting, Target shooting, home defense, hunting, fishing, I have property rights and should be be able to buy what I want.



    Concur...I've no problem with someone buying a fully automatic Barrett 50 BMG...if they can afford it.
     
     

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/12 06:33:19 (permalink)
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    Not really sure I care if it has a 'use for civilians'...

    I should still be able to buy it without jumping thru hoops if I have the money. All the idiotic taxes, stamps and BS.

    The second amendment is all I need to buy something like that.

    Hell, cars and abortions kill more people than firearms (outside of war, mind you)...but do you want to ban those?

    Competition shooting, Target shooting, home defense, hunting, fishing, I have property rights and should be be able to buy what I want.



    Concur...I've no problem with someone buying a fully automatic Barrett 50 BMG...if they can afford it.
     
     
    Thats the thing man... People dont understand the cost of items like that and think anyone at anytime can walk into a gunstore and buy one. My job is to sell firearms, as well as filling out federal paperwork. So much redtape, some will have you believe it is easy to buy a firearm.

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/12 06:41:07 (permalink)
    Thing is, many think these 'laws' will stop 'criminals' from getting them..
     
    Nope...it only hurts law abiding citizens.
     

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles? 2015/11/12 06:41:54 (permalink)
    also, my LWRC M6IC-SPR was 2400 bucks...they're not 'cheap' to buy.. even 'civilian models'
     
     

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles 2015/11/12 07:36:39 (permalink)
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    Not really sure I care if it has a 'use for civilians'...
     
    I should still be able to buy it without jumping thru hoops if I have the money. All the idiotic taxes, stamps and BS.

    The second amendment is all I need to buy something like that.

    Hell, cars and abortions kill more people than firearms (outside of war, mind you)...but do you want to ban those?
     
    Competition shooting, Target shooting, home defense, hunting, fishing, I have property rights and should be be able to buy what I want.


    Let me clarify somethings before you guys jump all over me.

    I'm pro second amendment. Would I be planning to buy an ACR if I was not? I just meant that I think the SMG/SBR form factor does have limited use for civilians because if you're going for home defense with them a pistol is (IMO) a better option. Likewise technically speaking, a full size rifle is better for targets shooting. Now, just because I think it that as a form factor it has limited utility does not mean that I am against people being able to own them, and that is not what I said anyways. And I am aware they aren't cheap, the ACR will be well over $2k to buy.

    Additionally, no I do not want more red tape. I want the border shut down so we know who and what is coming into the country, and I want a crackdown on the illegal weapons and gangs. Note the word ILLEGAL. Like my favorite candidaTe, it's only the illegals that I am against. Legal firearms I am all for, if you want a full auto M4 with a suppressoR and can prove you do not have a history of violent crime yoU should be able to go buy it. If I could I would buy a full auto ACR. But My Personal opinion is one of someone who has not yet owned a gun either, so when it comes to the "seems like it would have limited use" comment, keep that in mind.

    Edit: let me also add that I didn't take it personally or anything, I just wanted to clear up the misunderstanding. Especially because I know it is a touchy subject for a lot of people. (As it should be)
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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles 2015/11/12 10:35:26 (permalink)
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    Not really sure I care if it has a 'use for civilians'...
     
    I should still be able to buy it without jumping thru hoops if I have the money. All the idiotic taxes, stamps and BS.

    The second amendment is all I need to buy something like that.

    Hell, cars and abortions kill more people than firearms (outside of war, mind you)...but do you want to ban those?
     
    Competition shooting, Target shooting, home defense, hunting, fishing, I have property rights and should be be able to buy what I want.


    Let me clarify somethings before you guys jump all over me.

    I'm pro second amendment. Would I be planning to buy an ACR if I was not? I just meant that I think the SMG/SBR form factor does have limited use for civilians because if you're going for home defense with them a pistol is (IMO) a better option. Likewise technically speaking, a full size rifle is better for targets shooting. Now, just because I think it that as a form factor it has limited utility does not mean that I am against people being able to own them, and that is not what I said anyways. And I am aware they aren't cheap, the ACR will be well over $2k to buy.

    Additionally, no I do not want more red tape. I want the border shut down so we know who and what is coming into the country, and I want a crackdown on the illegal weapons and gangs. Note the word ILLEGAL. Like my favorite candidaTe, it's only the illegals that I am against. Legal firearms I am all for, if you want a full auto M4 with a suppressoR and can prove you do not have a history of violent crime yoU should be able to go buy it. If I could I would buy a full auto ACR. But My Personal opinion is one of someone who has not yet owned a gun either, so when it comes to the "seems like it would have limited use" comment, keep that in mind.

    Edit: let me also add that I didn't take it personally or anything, I just wanted to clear up the misunderstanding. Especially because I know it is a touchy subject for a lot of people. (As it should be)
    I dont think anyone here was attacking you or your post man...

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles 2015/11/12 10:35:29 (permalink)
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    Not really sure I care if it has a 'use for civilians'...
     
    I should still be able to buy it without jumping thru hoops if I have the money. All the idiotic taxes, stamps and BS.

    The second amendment is all I need to buy something like that.

    Hell, cars and abortions kill more people than firearms (outside of war, mind you)...but do you want to ban those?
     
    Competition shooting, Target shooting, home defense, hunting, fishing, I have property rights and should be be able to buy what I want.


    Let me clarify somethings before you guys jump all over me.

    I'm pro second amendment. Would I be planning to buy an ACR if I was not? I just meant that I think the SMG/SBR form factor does have limited use for civilians because if you're going for home defense with them a pistol is (IMO) a better option. Likewise technically speaking, a full size rifle is better for targets shooting. Now, just because I think it that as a form factor it has limited utility does not mean that I am against people being able to own them, and that is not what I said anyways. And I am aware they aren't cheap, the ACR will be well over $2k to buy.

    Additionally, no I do not want more red tape. I want the border shut down so we know who and what is coming into the country, and I want a crackdown on the illegal weapons and gangs. Note the word ILLEGAL. Like my favorite candidaTe, it's only the illegals that I am against. Legal firearms I am all for, if you want a full auto M4 with a suppressoR and can prove you do not have a history of violent crime yoU should be able to go buy it. If I could I would buy a full auto ACR. But My Personal opinion is one of someone who has not yet owned a gun either, so when it comes to the "seems like it would have limited use" comment, keep that in mind.

    Edit: let me also add that I didn't take it personally or anything, I just wanted to clear up the misunderstanding. Especially because I know it is a touchy subject for a lot of people. (As it should be)
    I dont think anyone here was attacking you or your post man...

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles 2015/11/12 20:49:48 (permalink)
    My scorpion is on my night stand as my home defense gun. IMO, it in SBR form is the perfect weapon for HD. YMMV

    The beauty of most of America is you can choose what's best for you.

    IE, I see no use in shotguns, so I don't own one.

    Also, I have no real use for a 70 year old MP40, but I like the history and see it as an investment..., even though I'd like to see the NFA and Hughes amendment declared unconstitutional like they are.

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles 2015/11/12 20:58:03 (permalink)
    Why so much discussion on a computer forum about guns? I don't get it..

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles 2015/11/12 20:58:04 (permalink)
    Why so much discussion on a computer forum about guns? I don't get it..

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles 2015/11/12 21:01:43 (permalink)
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    Why so much discussion on a computer forum about guns? I don't get it..


    Do you ask the same question about all topics in the general section that aren't computer related? For example, the joke thread is hundreds of posts long. There are countless car topics.

    Or just guns?

    Some of us like guns, and computers, so on a computer forum that we visit we like to talk about them in the off topic area.

    I'm not sure what's so hard to get about that.
    post edited by JustinHEMI - 2015/11/12 21:03:16

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles 2015/11/12 23:10:25 (permalink)
    JustinHEMI
    My scorpion is on my night stand as my home defense gun. IMO, it in SBR form is the perfect weapon for HD. YMMV

    The beauty of most of America is you can choose what's best for you.

    IE, I see no use in shotguns, so I don't own one.

    Also, I have no real use for a 70 year old MP40, but I like the history and see it as an investment..., even though I'd like to see the NFA and Hughes amendment declared unconstitutional like they are.

    Justin

    Got that right! Maybe it's just from not having owned one or having needed to use one, it just seemed to me that a pistol would be easier to use in CQB/HD. But hey I could be wrong! Nothing wrong with that. I have to agree though the MP40 will be sweet. 
     
    Now, I will tell you what, I would love to get a CheyTac M200 Intervention .408 for target shooting. That is an awesome gun, I had the chance to see one at a show and it was easily the highlight. Though that doesn't count as SBR obviously lol.
    post edited by Halo_003 - 2015/11/12 23:16:13

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles 2015/11/13 04:19:35 (permalink)
    Shockjockey
    Why so much discussion on a computer forum about guns? I don't get it..




    If you don't like them, don't comment in the thread. No one forced you to click on the topic.
     
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    post edited by transdogmifier - 2015/11/13 07:13:06

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles 2015/11/13 06:39:19 (permalink)
    I didn't say I don't like guns. I am a hunter and have more than my share. Sorry I really am not tying to stir things up. Just asking a question. Don't get your panties in a bunch. It just seems like there is a lot more gun discussion on here than other tech forums.

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    Re: Short Barreled Rifles 2015/11/13 07:23:04 (permalink)
    Shockjockey
    I didn't say I don't like guns. I am a hunter and have more than my share. Sorry I really am not tying to stir things up. Just asking a question. Don't get your panties in a bunch. It just seems like there is a lot more gun discussion on here than other tech forums.
    I know overclock.net has a huge thread about firearms... This forum is a tad smaller than others and we have had oretty much the same active members for the last 2 years...

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