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2020/08/23 09:15:38 (permalink)
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/seasonic-outs-nvidia-12-pin-power-connector-lists-850w-psu
 
The countdown to Nvidia's Ampere GeForce GPUs has started, and meanwhile, the rumor mill is working as hard as it can to get you excited. We recently caught wind of a rumor detailing Nvidia's new 12-pin power connector and verified through our sources that such a cable does exist, and now a new picture of a 12-pin cable has surfaced - and it's purportedly posted by Seasonic, a PSU manufacturer. 
The posting was spotted by twitter user HXL, who found the image on the bilibili forums. It shows a Seasonic cable next to its box, adapting dual 8-pin connectors into a single 12-pin connector. The "Nvidia 12-pin PCIe Molex Micro-Fit 3.0 Connector" is 750 mm long, and the box notes "It is recommended to use a power supply rated 850 W or higher with this cable."
 
As this cable features two male 8-pin connectors, it's intended to plug straight into the modular ports on a Seasonic PSU -- rather than to be used as an adapter on your existing 8-pin cables. 
 
Normally, 8-pin power connectors are rated for 150W each, which paired with 75W through the PCIe port tallies up to 375W of total board power. This isn't completely unheard of, as even custom boards from Nvidia's AIC partners occasionally have three PCIe power connectors. However, it's noteworthy that this doesn't say much about Ampere's power consumption or efficiency.
The Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 was also pictured again just yesterday, and it looks like it will be a behemoth of a triple-slot card, suggestive of a power-hungry design.
 
It's unclear whether this new 12-pin connector will make it to the entire Ampere GeForce line. According to Google Translate, Seasonic notes "Is it really unsure, dare to send because there is no NDA. If it is true, the power supply manufacturer will increase the cost of the bonus line, and Lao Huang will not give us a penny. It is currently only used for testing"
 
The note on the box says "It is recommended to use a power supply rated 850 W or higher with this cable," but that might only be needed for the most power-hungry cards, as we could imagine it would upset quite a large group of people if something like the RTX 3070 would also need a near-kilowatt PSU. 
 
That being said, it's also possible that the note is just there as a warning. After all, we can't deny that a single 12-pin connector would be a much more elegant solution than multiple connectors, especially if you decide to indulge in individually-sleeved cables. 
Either way, the only way to know for sure is by waiting for Nvidia's actual announcement, so just sit tight until September 1st. 
 
I'm curious if the very top end NVIDIA ampere cards will have the 12 pin connector. 
 
 
 


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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/23 09:56:03 (permalink)
    It will be interesting to see the spread of GPUs which use the 12-pin connector vs the traditional connectors.

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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/23 10:13:23 (permalink)
    Looks like I’ll need to be contacting seasonic soon to get one of these cables for my 1300w seasonic psu.
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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/23 11:55:29 (permalink)
     
    Oh great. Watch while asshats buy the entire stock and then resell it for triple the price.
     
    Why the need for a 12 pin connector NVidia? You can have any multiple of 6 and 8 which already exist, so why screw everyone over? NVidia should and must provide an adapter cable with their GPUs if they are going to force this on users, if they don't, I can see AMD gaining market share on this if their next GPUs are anywhere close to NVidia in performance.
     
    What's with the 850W minimum? I just purchased a new 850W PSU, I haven't even opened the box yet.
     
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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/23 14:32:35 (permalink)
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    As this cable features two male 8-pin connectors, it's intended to plug straight into the modular ports on a Seasonic PSU -- rather than to be used as an adapter on your existing 8-pin cables. 




    Ohhh, whoops. Thought this was an adapter when I saw it posted on r/hardware.  
     
    Nereus, the rumor was that this would be mostly an OEM thing. If consumer cards use this new pin then the GPUs will probably ship with adapters for it.


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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/23 14:38:50 (permalink)

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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/23 14:46:17 (permalink)
    Like i said before get ready to pay that high electric bill🤣🤣🤣🤦

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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/23 19:26:18 (permalink)
    Never mind, was a dumb thought.
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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/23 21:45:42 (permalink)
    Okay, the connector is TINY. Nobody will be able to plug AUX or EPS12V connectors into GPUs anymore, that's for sure. (src techpowerup)
     



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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/24 07:10:38 (permalink)

     
    So UN-necessary , if true.

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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/24 09:49:17 (permalink)
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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/24 17:33:09 (permalink)
    Ugh this is just so stupid, really Nvidia what the hell


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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/24 18:54:11 (permalink)
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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/24 21:31:03 (permalink)
    They're brute forcing things this series it looks like. Pour in the power and super size the heatsink. Not too sure what that is going to mean for overclocking headroom. I suppose that means just buy it pre-OC'd and not screw with it anymore this series. Probably ok if it actually shows some good improvement over 2000-series.
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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/24 22:42:53 (permalink)
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    Never mind, was a dumb thought.

    Oh you can say it 😹😹

    Nah, you do enough of it that I don't need to add more to the forums.

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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/25 02:34:13 (permalink)
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    Never mind, was a dumb thought.

    Oh you can say it 😹😹

    Nah, you do enough of it that I don't need to add more to the forums.

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    Eventually we shall see how beneficial is for the consumer's pocket...but my gut feeling tells me it wont be pretty🤷

    Not sure where you think your posts are witty enough to charge for?
     
    I'm not exactly sure where people are coming up with it's going to be more power hungry? It's 12-pins vs what used to be 2x8-pins, which = 16-pins. To be honest a single 12-pin connector is preferable to me then 2x8-pin connectors. People always fight change, even when it's better for them.
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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/25 04:50:08 (permalink)
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    I'm not exactly sure where people are coming up with it's going to be more power hungry? 



    ...because the claimed spec sheet from Nvidia says the cable takes a 850W minimum power supply .
    ..and the latest pictures show a massive sized card/ heatsink in triple slot config

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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/25 04:51:15 (permalink)
    I am pretty sure that they couldn't roll out this cable to the general public and not have it backfire on NVIDIA. It's just not a change that can happen in months. If we are talking about the 4090 in a couple years sure or if we are talking about developers I would say yes it's possible right now. General public just doesn't seem ready for it.

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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/25 05:15:47 (permalink)
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    I am pretty sure that they couldn't roll out this cable to the general public and not have it backfire on NVIDIA. It's just not a change that can happen in months. If we are talking about the 4090 in a couple years sure or if we are talking about developers I would say yes it's possible right now. General public just doesn't seem ready for it.


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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/25 07:42:15 (permalink)
    rtx4090 in 1 year is likely
     
    if AMD is gonna produce RDNA upgrades each year then Nvidia has to do the same
    and you now have Intel in the GPU game ....Nvidia has to try and stay ahead
    nvidia can do 7nm+ next year and then 5 after that
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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/25 08:53:17 (permalink)
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    I'm not exactly sure where people are coming up with it's going to be more power hungry? 



    ...because the claimed spec sheet from Nvidia says the cable takes a 850W minimum power supply .
    ..and the latest pictures show a massive sized card/ heatsink in triple slot config


    What claimed Nvidia spec sheet are you talking about? The only specs I have seen regarding the 12-pin is that Seasonic recommends a 850W or higher psu with that 12-pin adapter.
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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/25 20:04:56 (permalink)
    Anyone remember Nvidia Gsync? Y’all see how well that went down. Nvidia is getting too cocky. Need something like AMD catching Intel with their pants down. Someone could still slap Nvidia some, like customers that have had enogh...
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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/26 02:59:16 (permalink)
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    Anyone remember Nvidia Gsync? Y’all see how well that went down. Nvidia is getting too cocky. Need something like AMD catching Intel with their pants down. Someone could still slap Nvidia some, like customers that have had enogh...

    Yep, I remember G-Sync, it worked fantastic the last time I used it. Did you have an issue with it not working properly? I have not had enough from Nvidia, not even sure what you're talking about. Nvidia gives us the most powerful gaming video cards on the market with features no other company offers. Nvidia is not sitting around with their pants down like Intel was, Nvidia is pushing the gaming video card market to new levels that nobody can offer right now. Glad companies like Nvidia are around or we would be gaming off cpu built in graphics.
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    Re: Seasonic Outs 12-Pin Nvidia Power Connector, Lists 850W PSU Requirement 2020/08/26 11:11:55 (permalink)
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    Anyone remember Nvidia Gsync? Y’all see how well that went down. Nvidia is getting too cocky. Need something like AMD catching Intel with their pants down. Someone could still slap Nvidia some, like customers that have had enogh...



    Yes, and Gsync works perfectly fine. It just costs more than it should. Meanwhile, I've lost track of how many monitors all have FreeSync now... but the monitor itself is 60FPS. Which makes Freesync almost (but not quite entirely) pointless.


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