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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 08:33:24
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Tweaked This subject has brought a lot of strong opinions for many people. Up to this point, these feelings seem to be one sided, however, there may be members of this forum on the opposite side and the general tone of this thread is that of hostility. Please refrain from using insults in this thread. I realize that these comments were not directed at any one person, but it is still a personal attack and is against the TOS.
It's still a personal attack when not direct at any one member?
Personal Attacks - Personal attacks often lead to the trading of insults, and can throw the discussion of a legitimate topic off-track. Personal attacks can be defined as issuing a single or repeated personal attack or attacks aimed at another member, rather than at their opinions or ideas
Yes, that is correct. Simply because we don't know any specific individual that may have that particular opinion and/or that person has not been named directly, does not change the fact that calling someone a "Snowflake" is a personal insult on that individual.
For it to be a personal attack, you must show they were directing it at a MEMBER. What it sounds like me, you don't like what members are talking about. Now you want to abuse your powers by threatening members.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 08:40:04
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Tweaked This subject has brought a lot of strong opinions for many people. Up to this point, these feelings seem to be one sided, however, there may be members of this forum on the opposite side and the general tone of this thread is that of hostility. Please refrain from using insults in this thread. I realize that these comments were not directed at any one person, but it is still a personal attack and is against the TOS.
It's still a personal attack when not direct at any one member?
Personal Attacks - Personal attacks often lead to the trading of insults, and can throw the discussion of a legitimate topic off-track. Personal attacks can be defined as issuing a single or repeated personal attack or attacks aimed at another member, rather than at their opinions or ideas
Yes, that is correct. Simply because we don't know any specific individual that may have that particular opinion and/or that person has not been named directly, does not change the fact that calling someone a "Snowflake" is a personal insult on that individual.
For it to be a personal attack, you must show they were directing it at a MEMBER. What it sounds like me, you don't like what members are talking about. Now you want to abuse your powers by threatening members.
i've got to stick up for the MOD on this one, if he/she feels that there is an issue whatever it may be, then he/she has every right to point it out and ask that it stops it's his/her job to do so, in theory he/she could just edit the comment or close this thread totally, stop MOD bashing it's not nice and it shows disrespect to the community that depend on the Mods to keep order, peace and harmony among members :D
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 08:54:30
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☄ Helpfulby stalinx20 2016/11/30 03:00:54
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i've got to stick up for the MOD on this one, if he/she feels that there is an issue whatever it may be, then he/she has every right to point it out and ask that it stops it's his/her job to do so, in theory he/she could just edit the comment or close this thread totally, stop MOD bashing it's not nice and it shows disrespect to the community that depend on the Mods to keep order, peace and harmony among members :D
So you think it's fine for people in power to make up rules how they see fit. For something to be a personal attack, you first must show they directed it at a member. Members are only speaking in general about what they see wrong in the world today.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 09:04:01
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i've got to stick up for the MOD on this one, if he/she feels that there is an issue whatever it may be, then he/she has every right to point it out and ask that it stops it's his/her job to do so, in theory he/she could just edit the comment or close this thread totally, stop MOD bashing it's not nice and it shows disrespect to the community that depend on the Mods to keep order, peace and harmony among members :D
So you think it's fine for people in power to make up rules how they see fit. For something to be a personal attack, you first must show they directed it at a member. Members are only speaking in general about what they see wrong in the world today.
if something is picked up in the wrong way then these things happen, but then i don't find MOD bashing good or a smart thing to do more of them with finger on the switch than us, your argument should you wish to continue it should be done as a direct PM to the MOD rather than flaming(easily done) the situation in an open forum. your stuck between a rock and a hard place either way with no safe space :D
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 09:08:03
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The long arm of the PC police even reaches this thread. Do not call the little snowflakes what they are because they might get offended.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 09:09:06
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Nereus The long arm of the PC police even reaches this thread.
+1 hell yea, just out of interest looking at your Carbide Air 540 do you think i would be able to fit a 420mm radiator into it?
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 09:17:30
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baconinabun just out of interest looking at your Carbide Air 540 do you think i would be able to fit a 420mm radiator into it?
Nope, at least not without some serious modding. It can handle 140mm fans at the front but only 2 of them. It's designed for a 280/360 at front or 240/280 at top...
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 09:21:30
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baconinabun just out of interest looking at your Carbide Air 540 do you think i would be able to fit a 420mm radiator into it?
Nope, at least not without some serious modding. It can handle 140mm fans at the front but only 2 of them. It's designed for a 280/360 at front or 240/280 at top...
i'm currently rocking a corsair 750D and it's time for upgrade but the 900D is way above what i would want to spend on a case, the 420mm rad was a chav squeezing in, but it went in without modding the case on inside top
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 09:29:55
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The 540 is an awesome case, but yeah, I've been looking and have not found one example of a 420 mounted in it. I have a MountainMods U2-UFO Horizon 18" cube sitting here empty because I like the Corsair Air 540 so much lol. The MountainMods case is amazing for full custom loop(s) though, particularly if you're cooling the CPU and 2+ GPU. Here's a pic of my old 480 Hydro SLI build in the MountainMods case. Sorry going off topic lol.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 09:49:03
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Nice i like that i wouldn't worry to much about the @op in this thread, me thinks it went off ages ago, i've got fresher milk in my fridge lol :D might be able to gett he thread back on track, the safest place i have is inside my case where i keep the expensive "removed for using bad words" :D
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 09:57:54
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Tweaked This subject has brought a lot of strong opinions for many people. Up to this point, these feelings seem to be one sided, however, there may be members of this forum on the opposite side and the general tone of this thread is that of hostility. Please refrain from using insults in this thread. I realize that these comments were not directed at any one person, but it is still a personal attack and is against the TOS.
It's still a personal attack when not direct at any one member?
Personal Attacks - Personal attacks often lead to the trading of insults, and can throw the discussion of a legitimate topic off-track. Personal attacks can be defined as issuing a single or repeated personal attack or attacks aimed at another member, rather than at their opinions or ideas
Yes, that is correct. Simply because we don't know any specific individual that may have that particular opinion and/or that person has not been named directly, does not change the fact that calling someone a "Snowflake" is a personal insult on that individual.
For it to be a personal attack, you must show they were directing it at a MEMBER. What it sounds like me, you don't like what members are talking about. Now you want to abuse your powers by threatening members.
Believe what you want. I wont be baited into an argument with you. I have made a request which is in no way unreasonable and absolutely NOT an abuse of power. As a moderator, I must keep my personal opinion out of my decisions and follow the TOS to the best of my ability which is what I have done. If you disagree, you are more than welcome to contact another mod or an admin and complain all you like.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 10:02:50
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Tweaked This subject has brought a lot of strong opinions for many people. Up to this point, these feelings seem to be one sided, however, there may be members of this forum on the opposite side and the general tone of this thread is that of hostility. Please refrain from using insults in this thread. I realize that these comments were not directed at any one person, but it is still a personal attack and is against the TOS.
It's still a personal attack when not direct at any one member?
Personal Attacks - Personal attacks often lead to the trading of insults, and can throw the discussion of a legitimate topic off-track. Personal attacks can be defined as issuing a single or repeated personal attack or attacks aimed at another member, rather than at their opinions or ideas
Yes, that is correct. Simply because we don't know any specific individual that may have that particular opinion and/or that person has not been named directly, does not change the fact that calling someone a "Snowflake" is a personal insult on that individual.
For it to be a personal attack, you must show they were directing it at a MEMBER. What it sounds like me, you don't like what members are talking about. Now you want to abuse your powers by threatening members.
i've got to stick up for the MOD on this one, if he/she feels that there is an issue whatever it may be, then he/she has every right to point it out and ask that it stops it's his/her job to do so, in theory he/she could just edit the comment or close this thread totally, stop MOD bashing it's not nice and it shows disrespect to the community that depend on the Mods to keep order, peace and harmony among members :D
He is not mod bashing. He is not calling Tweak any names or showing any hostile aggression of any manner. All what MSim did was ask a question about the TOS against personal attacks that corresponds to the issue about using the word snowflake in which bill used. MSim even proceed to show what the TOS says about personal attacks. But to me it looks like the TOS strictly says AIMED at a member which means directly. It also says does not count if it is against the members opinions or ideas. So it looks like bill's expression to use the word snowflake was not even directed at anyone on the forum. It was directed at the very sensitive folks who need time out spaces at college campuses. Now remember the mods are here to serve/help the forum members. It just like politicians are there to serve the people. Catch my drift? Anyways it seems like we have very sensitive people to the word snowflake on these forums. Lets start using the words buttercup instead.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 10:15:21
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please feel free to report the post, my use of ** goes so well in this thread, be well! it would certainly be interesting to have some other MODS opinion of what's going in this thread! it is flaming rather than just letting it go, the MOD has made a decision rightly or wrongly, whether you me or anyones uncle brother cousin disagrees with that he/she is the MOD and the authortong(south park) should be respected, this thread is going to be pages long of baiting, flaming and name calling, all of us have to remember were not all fuddy duddies in here :D
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 10:15:30
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baconinabun if something is picked up in the wrong way then these things happen, but then i don't find MOD bashing good or a smart thing to do more of them with finger on the switch than us, your argument should you wish to continue it should be done as a direct PM to the MOD rather than flaming(easily done) the situation in an open forum. your stuck between a rock and a hard place either way with no safe space :D
Is it police bashing if you stand up for your rights? Look at the ToS about personal attacks, it clearly says AIMED at another member. Please show me where anyone in this thread made a personal attack aimed at another member (that meets ToS requirement for personal attacks). I can't find any post where someone said X member is a special snowflake etc. Only thing members are doing is discussing what's they think is wrong with the world today.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 10:19:59
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baconinabun if something is picked up in the wrong way then these things happen, but then i don't find MOD bashing good or a smart thing to do more of them with finger on the switch than us, your argument should you wish to continue it should be done as a direct PM to the MOD rather than flaming(easily done) the situation in an open forum. your stuck between a rock and a hard place either way with no safe space :D
Is it police bashing if you stand up for your rights? Look at the ToS about personal attacks, it clearly says AIMED at another member. Please show me where anyone in this thread made a personal attack aimed at another member (that meets ToS requirement for personal attacks). I can't find any post where someone said X member is a special snowflake etc. Only thing members are doing is discussing what's they think is wrong with the world today.
i think in the US if you were to bash a copper because he was infringing your rights, they would no doubt shoot you :D what does it say about flaming in TOS? @bill1024 i would have thought at your age the fuddie duddie comment would have been enough for a heart attack loon :D God Dam it you've got me at it now :(
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 10:33:04
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it's just like american wrestling in here, see who behaves the worst to get booted out first lol the show must go on lol
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 10:39:04
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EVGA should make a section on the forums called Safe Space. What do you all think? Good Idea?
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 10:44:44
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HAZMAN_THE_GREAT EVGA should make a section on the forums called Safe Space. What do you all think? Good Idea?
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 11:42:09
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Everyone, we've had some complaints about some of the comments in this thread. We are going to give this thread "one" more chance to redeem itself otherwise we will have to lock it down. Please stay on target of the OP, keep the thread clean, and respect's each others opinions even if you disagree with them.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 12:02:23
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rjohnson11 Everyone, we've had some complaints about some of the comments in this thread. We are going to give this thread "one" more chance to redeem itself otherwise we will have to lock it down. Please stay on target of the OP, keep the thread clean, and respect's each others opinions even if you disagree with them.
well said i blame bill :D
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 12:32:56
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stalinx20 So, what do you all think about universities in the United States all of a sudden introducing safe places? It's for people that get offended or "traumatized" (as they referred to it) because others that may disagree with their point of view or their certain prejudices. Which then has them go to these "safe places" so they can be comforted. What do I think? Those people need to be expelled. College, in my eyes, actually have caused more people to be dumber than before they went to college. My the world has changed. Just google "safe place" or "safe space".
I thought college was to teach you how to think, not what to think. College is supposed to be a place of open ideas, being exposed to ideas opposed to you own way of thinking. I don't know about being expelled, maybe they should have to join the debate team where they can not run from opposing points of view. Is it just people in college? I have worked many a construction sites, I never seen a safe place on one. Seen a few fist fight bust out. Maybe they have safe places too now a days. OSHA like to see safe places at work, hard hats, steel toed shoes, rubber gloves at the parts wash bin, a yellow line 3ft around the edge of the roof (maybe that was IBMs rule). Safety harness when working over 8ft, who has time for that.
see when i was younger there was no safe places when i did wrong, i just used to get a klip round the lug, nowadays they just buy them an iphone when they do something wrong that's what is wrong with the world, bring back national service and bring back the cane
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 15:54:30
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HAZMAN_THE_GREAT EVGA should make a section on the forums called Safe Space. What do you all think? Good Idea?
Naa, then all the snowflakes will go there and tell everyone how wonderful their parents say they are.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 17:42:53
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I wonder how many people this thread has sent to their safe places.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/26 18:48:13
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Ladies and gentleman I welcome you to the EVGA forums. One of those safe places where grown men can't handle a joke.
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2016/11/26 20:54:16
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Chrome-M-Dragon Ladies and gentleman I welcome you to the EVGA forums. One of those safe places where grown men can't handle a joke.
This quote..... | V People are, well, only human. We know that. The rule of law is borne out in identifying, condemning, and punishing those who violate the standards on which we all agree. This is exactly what we do in America.
But wait a second... that's the problem, the ones who are in the wrong, just get butt hurt and hide in their "safe place/space" and play with play-do till their feelings get better. Yeah, that's not 'Merika, sorry, that's land of the teddy bears.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/27 07:24:32
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"Safe spaces" are just the natural evolution of politically correct speech restrictions, but now institutionalized discrimination by denying or removing physical space to those deemed unworthy. Politically correctness = censorship of thought Safe spaces = removal of people considered violating the censorship of thought It's absolutely atrocious.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/27 07:48:47
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fearpoint "Safe spaces" are just the natural evolution of politically correct speech restrictions, but now institutionalized discrimination by denying or removing physical space to those deemed unworthy. Politically correctness = censorship of thought Safe spaces = removal of people considered violating the censorship of thought It's absolutely atrocious.
Great analysis, and against everything these people claim to stand for. ..but they still don't get it.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/27 08:21:23
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When they don't want to hear opposing opinion they get a 'safe space'... ok, so where is the 'safe space' for everyone else when these same little darlings are out protesting rioting?
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/28 11:38:25
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I hate growing up in my generation. Thankfully I grew up on a farm where I worked hard. If you didn't want to do something or your feelings were hurt, tough, the work still needs to be done. I'm so sick of this PC culture that has been created. I don't have to deal with PC culture first hand, living in a rural area, people usually say what they want to and nobody cares, but seeing it in media, politics, etc is sickening. Political correctness is a weapon against our freedoms and certain people have no problem using it.
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Re: Safe Places - really?
2016/11/28 11:47:57
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Just a friendly reminder that politics isn't allowed on the EVGA forums. If there is a repeat incident then this thread will be locked on that basis.
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