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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/11/28 15:51:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby stalinx20 2016/12/05 18:16:45
EVGA's TOS is basically SafeSpace(tm) especially in video games that are rated 17+ and have swearing in them from the developer.
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/11/28 16:19:32 (permalink)
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When they don't want to hear opposing opinion they get a 'safe space'... ok, so where is the 'safe space' for everyone else when these same little darlings are out protesting rioting?
 
 
 
 



It's right there. Safe Space.
 
Edit: Hahahaha. snowflakes 'little darlings'
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/11/29 21:00:16 (permalink)
Better watch out, you might trigger someone.


 
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/11/30 03:02:10 (permalink)
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The long arm of the PC police even reaches this thread.
 
Do not call the little snowflakes what they are because they might get offended. 
 
 
 


I'm glad you and MSim finally agree in something

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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/11/30 04:13:53 (permalink)
Will the safe place have a cappuccino machine and pacifiers?

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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/01 18:20:27 (permalink)
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The long arm of the PC police even reaches this thread.
 
Do not call the little snowflakes what they are because they might get offended. 
 
 
 


I'm glad you and MSim finally agree in something





It's about time he came around to my way of thinking.


 
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/02 01:47:55 (permalink)
A Generation that has never been told "no" - Daniel Hannon destroys Protestors' "Safe Spaces"

 
this is the first generation that has been brought up not to tolerate opinions that they dislike...

 
 
Just google "Daniel Hannon destroys protestors"
 
 
I find it too embaressing to be part of this generation. 
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/02 21:56:04 (permalink)
So I haven't read all 3 pages, just addressing the OP. I'm 25, college educated, what most would consider a "millennial liberal". I think safe spaces outside of genuine need (actual rape victims etc) are absolutely BS.
 
Diversity of thought and experience is what allows people to expand their view point and grow as individuals. Abuse of the safe space concept is by people who want to live in their own little bubble, "safe" from anyone who might pop it. 
 
That's not what college/education is about, in my view. That said the whole "anti PC" culture is equally obnoxious. 
 
To quote Bill & Ted: Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES!  
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/02 22:13:55 (permalink)
RiChess, I encourage you to google "Milo Yiannopoulos on safe spaces". He speaks exactly what you're talking about. College is about working with other people and to bring your ideas to the center and allowing others to view such ideas. If that is not for you and you don't like it when others disagree with you, then college is not for you. He states that those who don't like when their ideas or thoughts are challenged and get upset by it need to basically "get out and go home". This, including getting expelled, lol. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMLstUPp2-c
 
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/02 22:19:07 (permalink)
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RiChess, I encourage you to google "Milo Yiannopoulos on safe spaces". He speaks exactly what you're talking about. College is about working with other people and to bring your ideas to the center and allowing others to view such ideas. If that is not for you and you don't like it when others disagree with you, then college is not for you. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMLstUPp2-c
 




His association with Breitbart is a huge red flag as far as objectivity goes, but I do agree with what he said there, to a point. The "safe space" movement is a minority. The vast majority receive a solid education and move on to do with it as any generation has done.
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/03 19:25:12 (permalink)
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RiChess, I encourage you to google "Milo Yiannopoulos on safe spaces". He speaks exactly what you're talking about. College is about working with other people and to bring your ideas to the center and allowing others to view such ideas. If that is not for you and you don't like it when others disagree with you, then college is not for you. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMLstUPp2-c
 




His association with Breitbart is a huge red flag as far as objectivity goes, but I do agree with what he said there, to a point. The "safe space" movement is a minority. The vast majority receive a solid education and move on to do with it as any generation has done.



That moment when brietbart has far more credibility that any of the cable news networks.
 
Welcome to reality.
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/03 20:02:17 (permalink)
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RiChess, I encourage you to google "Milo Yiannopoulos on safe spaces". He speaks exactly what you're talking about. College is about working with other people and to bring your ideas to the center and allowing others to view such ideas. If that is not for you and you don't like it when others disagree with you, then college is not for you. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMLstUPp2-c
 




His association with Breitbart is a huge red flag as far as objectivity goes, but I do agree with what he said there, to a point. The "safe space" movement is a minority. The vast majority receive a solid education and move on to do with it as any generation has done.



That moment when brietbart has far more credibility that any of the cable news networks.
 
Welcome to reality.


I was going to say that. Avoid Mainstream media at all costs. 

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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/03 20:04:08 (permalink)
 
"Hundreds of Boston Public Schools students are planning to walk out of classes Monday in protest of the President-elect's “inexcusable statements” and “harmful policies,” with the end goal of building a “student-led resistance against the incoming administration,” organizers said." [link]
 
LMAO.. “inexcusable statements” and “harmful policies”, gee sounds like their teachers might have had a hand in this.
 
Ok, so are they all going to be suspended / expelled? You know if this was done against another President they would not only be expelled, they'd be branded racists.
 
You also know the vast majority of these students will be seeing this as a way out of classes and nothing more, and would never do this if asked to do it in their own time.
 
 
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/03 20:18:37 (permalink)
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This subject has brought a lot of strong opinions for many people.  Up to this point, these feelings seem to be one sided, however, there may be members of this forum on the opposite side and the general tone of this thread is that of hostility.  Please refrain from using insults in this thread.  I realize that these comments were not directed at any one person, but it is still a personal attack and is against the TOS.

It's still a personal attack when not direct at any one member? 

Personal Attacks - Personal attacks often lead to the trading of insults, and can throw the discussion of a legitimate topic off-track.  Personal attacks can be defined as issuing a single or repeated personal attack or attacks aimed at another member, rather than at their opinions or ideas


Yes, that is correct.  Simply because we don't know any specific individual that may have that particular opinion and/or that person has not been named directly, does not change the fact that calling someone a "Snowflake" is a personal insult on that individual.

Incorrect, the way the forum guideline was written, it was to prevent calling out individuals by name with direct conflict on the forums. Now you might reimagine what that forum guideline means, but I was rather intent on it's purpose when I assisted in it's writing. Was someone called out by specific name in this forum as a Snowflake? If not, it's not against that specific forum guideline. There needs to be direct naming of a person and intent to directly attack an individual through their post. If someone identifies with an issue, that does not mean they have been personally attacked. Only the issue has been attacked. Now if you want to go and rewrite the forum guidelines to update to your current mod and management stance, by all means do so. But don't claim intent of the forum guidelines contrary to the intent of those that originally framed them. The wording was very specific in order to allow for open debates to occur on topics and issues of potential contention, while ensuring that no one in those topics went ad hominem in the process. This is not an argument with you as a current mod from a retired mod. This is a statement of context that you have interpreted the guideline contrary to it's original intent. My suggestion is you rewrite the guideline to better reflect your current intent. As it stands, your current intent and the intent I helped write are not in line with each other. The moment you confuse attack of an ideology with attack of an individual you've lost objectivity. The two things are polar opposites.
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/03 20:40:18 (permalink)
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With the 24 hour news cycle and they have to fill all that time. I think most things today are blown out of proportion.
I asked my daughter who is in a college upstate NY and she doe not see any of this stuff going on.
No protests, no safe places. Today the squeaky wheel not only gets the grease it gets way too much air time on TV.
Other thing today that is a problem, people get their news off the internet and off facebook, where 90% of the crap is not true.
The other 10% is only half true and taken out of context.


Depends on where you're getting this "news" from, off the internet. Anyone who is getting their news from facebook better reconsider their sources, fast. 

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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/03 21:00:25 (permalink)
That's the problem with "news". If I point to a mainstream news station, and tell you that it's all fake. Are you going to believe me? No, you probably won't, because they're mainstream right? They have a professional news station with professionals with expensive suits, so that makes them have real news... You're claiming that a small news guy that posts videos on youtube (do i got this right so far?) would be considered "fake news" because he's nothing but a guy posting videos on youtube, and can't possibly be even credible, because even the lowest of the low has access to youtube, and can do whatever he wants. It sounds like we have a real problem on our hands. The problem, who are you going to believe to get your news from? And can you validate their source? And then their source?  MSM: receive bribes they do. 
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/03 21:14:58 (permalink)
Yes, we all should look at all sides.

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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/05 04:51:33 (permalink)
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Trouble is people do not research, they see something and believe it.
Not everything is fake. MSNBC will tell you one side, Fox news will tell you their side, both tell it as they see it.
You will see things on each channel you will never see on the other. Some things are twisted to make the other side look bad.
People should get the news from several news venues. A couple TV channels. CNN, FOX, One America news, if you can stomach it, MSNBC too.
Should read the Wall Street Journal and even the NY times. People should see both sides.
 
We are not teaching real history today, if you do not know history, you will be condemned to repeat it.
So much to learn in this world, we also need to let people have their own opinions, their own truths. Not their own facts.




So much this. A well rounded diet makes a healthy body. Same goes for media/news consumption. If you stick with whatever source pleases your cravings, you're not going to be informed. Be it fox, cnn, infowars, breitbart, washpo, the young turks, whatever.
 
It's really popular to outright dismiss "main stream media" right now (somewhat ironic in itself) as bought and sold outlets that just spin and lie. If they say it, it must be wrong, right? No. Truth is all media spins, to a pretty crazy extent. From the alt right to the extreme left. Cross check, cross read, see how all sides are projecting themselves.
 
Don't box yourself into an echo chamber of what you want to hear.
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/05 08:20:14 (permalink)
 
Then there's idiots like this kid, driving at speeds up to 120mph, no seatbelt, recklessly weaving through traffic while holding their phone and livestreaming their idiocy. Jerk crashed into a truck and somehow survived, and is now in hospital and awaiting criminal charges.
 
You want to endanger your own life, you go right ahead and play Russian roulette with a revolver, but what this idiot was doing was putting everyone else's lives in danger, and he clearly did not give a single solitary crap about others. Might have been better for the rest of the world if he hadn't survived. I doubt he'll learn anything from this - probably get a chip on his shoulder against the "establishment" because he got "caught". Idiot.
 
 
 


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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/05 18:23:06 (permalink)
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Then there's idiots like this kid, driving at speeds up to 120mph, no seatbelt, recklessly weaving through traffic while holding their phone and livestreaming their idiocy. Jerk crashed into a truck and somehow survived, and is now in hospital and awaiting criminal charges.
 
You want to endanger your own life, you go right ahead and play Russian roulette with a revolver, but what this idiot was doing was putting everyone else's lives in danger, and he clearly did not give a single solitary crap about others. Might have been better for the rest of the world if he hadn't survived. I doubt he'll learn anything from this - probably get a chip on his shoulder against the "establishment" because he got "caught". Idiot.
 
 
 


I can't help but laugh at this. He got what he had coming. I do not pity the ignorance or even the innocents that say "they didn't know". It only takes 5 minutes to educate one's self on certain matters; especially when it comes to putting your seatbelt on.
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/05 22:57:34 (permalink)
Betting $20 the kid plays GTAV.
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/06 00:00:15 (permalink)
That driver should lose his license for at least 10 years. It's a privilege to drive not a right. 


 
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/06 05:29:59 (permalink)
I can't afford college right now, do I get a safe space? Also, do these safe spaces come with blankets and cocoa?
 
@Bill; I agree with you completely. Most media, whether it's mainstream or alternative, is skewed. Most of them have some sort of idea or agenda they're trying to push. Not only that, but I feel they do blow things out of proportion and dramatize things. Somewhere in the middle, and on a toned down scale, there's the truth. Occasionally, there isn't.
 
Of course, if you're not really seeing it, and it's not effecting you, what merit does it really have? I'm not supporting ignorance or burying your head into the sand, I just think some of these things aren't happening on the scale the media makes it out to be.
 
I find it odd when people fret over things that don't effect them just because they saw it in the media.
 
To be fair, some things in the news are definitely worth paying attention to, even if they seem distant and they might not always get much coverage. There are some serious things going on overseas, and in our own government, that I think people should pay more attention to and actually care about. There are people within and without trying to take peoples' rights away (including yours and mine), sometimes even life, but nobody bats an eye.
 
 
@RiChess I know what you're talking about. I don't like the whole PC thing, as I find it ironic. If you support rights, you don't silence free speech. If you're empowered, you don't need a safe space. If you want equality, you treat everyone fairly and don't give or expect special treatment. It's certainly deserving of the term regressive liberalism IMO.
 
However, I do dislike the whole liberal bashing thing, and millennial bashing as well. Not only that, but the anti PC crowd can be quite hypocritical, as they become just as sensitive as the PC crew. Sometimes they justify things they say / do by bringing up the PC crowd and how overly sensitive they are even though what they just said / did was legitimately offensive. Or using the whole "conservatism is right, liberals are wrong, we could beat them any day" and "liberals are dividing this country (as we refuse to work with them)" mentality.
 
In the end, whatever side it is, it's ultimately the pride and hypocrisy these people have that bothers me.
 
Well, that turned into quite a bit of a rant...
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/06 07:51:02 (permalink)
"Last Man Standing" TV show addressed this topic last Friday in their comical way. It's a goofy show but I enjoy the right vs left theme of it. Try to find it on demand if you like.
 
 


 

 
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/06 08:42:23 (permalink)
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Trouble is people do not research, they see something and believe it.
Not everything is fake. MSNBC will tell you one side, Fox news will tell you their side, both tell it as they see it.
You will see things on each channel you will never see on the other. Some things are twisted to make the other side look bad.
People should get the news from several news venues. A couple TV channels. CNN, FOX, One America news, if you can stomach it, MSNBC too.
Should read the Wall Street Journal and even the NY times. People should see both sides.
 
We are not teaching real history today, if you do not know history, you will be condemned to repeat it.
So much to learn in this world, we also need to let people have their own opinions, their own truths. Not their own facts.




Jesus. You named the WORST possible media sources from which to acquire information. Everyone should STAY AWAY FROM THAT GARBAGE. Never, EVER watch or read those outlets. Nothing but opinionated, politically correct and propagandized banter.
 
If you want to see pure, unedited truth and discuss issues...go to Liveleak. The true nature of liberals and the scum they support will shock you. Be warned. That site is not for the faint of heart. Humans do vile things as that site clearly shows, and these safe spaces are nothing more than see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil avenues toward delusion.
 
But I have to agree with you about history. No one is learning anything about the world. They see what they want to see because it's their "right" to ignore facts.
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/06 09:31:19 (permalink)
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Thing is too, many people do not understand opinion commentator and real "News"
Everyone should watch their local evening news. And they should watch national/world news.
One America new is straight forward news. Fox and CNN give you commentary on how their side of the isle sees the world.
It is important to see both sides. If you listen to only people you agree with is very closed minded and you will not learn new things
It is like a domestic call to the police. There is his story, there is her story , and there is the truth. Really is three sides to a coin.


Would be entertaining if they were required to put a disclaimer at the top of the hour shown on places like CNN, MSNBC and FOX that stated that the content is OP/ED not news. Still wouldn't change most people's biases though. Ever heard of the old saying "you are what you eat"? Well, people ingest a lot of junk food loosely labeled as news.
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/06 09:40:38 (permalink)
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Thing is too, many people do not understand opinion commentator and real "News"
Everyone should watch their local evening news. And they should watch national/world news.
One America new is straight forward news. Fox and CNN give you commentary on how their side of the isle sees the world.
It is important to see both sides. If you listen to only people you agree with is very closed minded and you will not learn new things
It is like a domestic call to the police. There is his story, there is her story , and there is the truth. Really is three sides to a coin.




Local news stations are controlled by the corporations that own CNN/Fox/MSNBC/ABC/NBC. All of them are told what to report and how to report it.

 
 


 
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/06 11:11:45 (permalink)
bill1024
Thing is too, many people do not understand opinion commentator and real "News"
Everyone should watch their local evening news. And they should watch national/world news.
One America new is straight forward news. Fox and CNN give you commentary on how their side of the isle sees the world.
It is important to see both sides. If you listen to only people you agree with is very closed minded and you will not learn new things
It is like a domestic call to the police. There is his story, there is her story , and there is the truth. Really is three sides to a coin.



Completely incorrect. You can't treat a media outlet like a common domestic disturbance or altercation. The news is designed to mislead you. That is it's purpose. I saw reports on CNN showing pictures in a 2.5 minute video collage of all these poor Syrian protesters laying on the ground, bloodied and screaming. CNN depicted this as an atrocity carried out by the Syrian government on peaceful protesters. Then...I went to Liveleak. On that site they had a 30 minute video depicting the staging of this "heinous incident". Same people. Same faces. Same clothes. Same flags. These actors were shown casually laying down on the ground, someone pouring red syrup all over them and they then began to act. But in the collage video with the smoke it looked quite convincing.
 
Do your research, people. Getting the opposing point of view of CNN vs. Fox is not enough. Matter of fact, if you watch EITHER of these sources and believe what they say, you are, in fact...a moron. If this offends you, your safe space is labeled Power. Press the button and pretend you're something you're not.
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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/06 11:14:00 (permalink)
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Local news stations are controlled by the corporations that own CNN/Fox/MSNBC/ABC/NBC. All of them are told what to report and how to report it.




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Re: Safe Places - really? 2016/12/06 17:32:50 (permalink)
 
Omg..  just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, it gets worse. The latest threat to the little petals: Food Insecurity
 
"They surveyed students, finding that more than half said they or someone they know experiences "food insecurity" -- the lack of access to affordable, nutritious food." [link]
 
The university they highlight is Montclair State University - a public doctoral research university located in the Upper Montclair section of Montclair, NJ. "They have a wonderful Musical Theater Program and Family and Child Service Program also!" It also has a Dunkin Donuts and an Einstein Bros Bagels outlet ON CAMPUS - more than any university I went to in NYC. Right outside the campus is Alexus Steakhouse and Tavern, McDonalds, Six Brothers Diner, and within a block, Boston Market, Absolutely Fish, Pub 46, and a small shopping mall. Yup, lack of access to affordable nutritious food. Those poor poor little dears, how will they ever cope ....with REALITY.
 
I imagine at least 75% of NYC blue-collar workers 'suffer' from "food insecurity" in that case.
 
Bunch of pathetic little babies.
 
Food insecurity my ass.
 
 
post edited by Nereus - 2016/12/06 17:35:10


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