bob16314
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Couple questions. 1. Any sense in me grabbing a 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus for a boot drive and just using my 1TB Crucial MX500 for backup/storage instead of my WD Black HDDs? Crucial Storage Executive with Momentum Cache enabled gives me the sky-high numbers in the attachments below and I'm seeing the CrystalDiskMark scores of a 970 EVO Plus being WAY lower than mine, but only when I have Momentum Cache enabled. 2. Can the Samsung Magician software do anything like Momentum Cache does? Momentum Cache Disabled  Momentum Cache Enabled 
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Re: SSD Question
2020/05/03 13:09:38
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I have never used momentum cache but I do know its a form of RAM cache so obviously waste some of your ram capacity and usually has a potential for data loss if system crashes or power goes out. I am not sure of any other drawbacks though... Samsung RAPID is very similar.
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Re: SSD Question
2020/05/03 13:18:59
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Rapid mode (enabled inside samsung magician, but only available for select ssd's, 970 evo plus isn't one of those select ssd's) & Momentum Cache do nothing but help short bursts. That isn't your real drives performance. A NVME is much faster when consecutive performance matters, however with that being said I own a Gigabyte Aorus NVMe Gen4 SSD 1TB GP-ASM2NE6100TTTD drive and it feels no faster inside windows than my Intel 730 Series 480GB SSDSC2BP480G4R5 SSD.
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Re: SSD Question
2020/05/03 19:06:47
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Sajin is correct. The NVMe drive is faster in transfer rate than the SATA SSD but we are talking fractions of a second here.
We cannot perceive such a small difference in time without calibrated instruments to measure it.
Both drives are instantaneous to us.
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Re: SSD Question
2020/05/04 20:47:38
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Use your hard drives as backups! Now you've really got a plan.
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Re: SSD Question
2020/05/05 05:24:37
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Use your hard drives as backups! Now you've really got a plan.
I already do..The point is, the spinners need to go.
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Re: SSD Question
2020/05/11 16:37:14
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Primocache can do the same ram caching, plus it's very configurable. But you have to pay for it. Free trial. Look into the HP EX950, just as fast as the Evo Plus and you can get the 2TB for about $250 on sale, the 1TB is $130 right now. If you want the fastest random 4K access OS drive, Optane 900P or 905P are the way to go. Bit spendy but you can find the 280GB 900P on ebay for about $250. Mine does about 175 mb/s in diskmark 4K connected through the chipset, with the modern smeltdown patches. It's still the fastest drive overall on userbenchmark. Always enjoy seeing the the diskmark numbers for a ram cache, they are fun.
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Re: SSD Question
2020/05/12 03:06:47
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bob16314
metroidprimerib
Use your hard drives as backups! Now you've really got a plan.
I already do..The point is, the spinners need to go.
Tell us the result,i'd like to know.
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Re: SSD Question
2020/05/12 04:47:49
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Use your hard drives as backups! Now you've really got a plan.
I already do..The point is, the spinners need to go.
I wish I could get rid of my spinners but I have a lot of photos and family video that takes up too much room to try to store on a SSD at least for what it would cost to buy the SSD's with enough space. Of course I find it fast enough for my needs.
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Re: SSD Question
2020/05/12 10:12:46
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I wish I could get rid of my spinners but I have a lot of photos and family video that takes up too much room to try to store on a SSD at least for what it would cost to buy the SSD's with enough space. Of course I find it fast enough for my needs.
Yeah, the spinners are going the way of IDE drives anyway and they're beginning to annoy me with their frequent spinning up/down and the delay involved, even though they work perfectly fine..Have three in mind, just haven't decided quite yet..Probably gonna roll with a 1TB Sabrent Rocket..Decisions, decisions. Will move my Crucial MX500 to M.2_2 for backup/storage and put the newer/faster one in M.2_1 as the primary. 1. Sabrent Rocket2. Gigabyte AORUS3. Corsair MP600
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Re: SSD Question
2020/05/12 10:41:32
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Got rid of my HDDs and SDDs some time ago. I have two MP600 Corsair M.2 NVME drives now. On my AMD X570 chipset I am using PCI-E 4.0.
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Re: SSD Question
2020/08/03 11:08:26
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I wish I could get rid of my spinners but I have a lot of photos and family video that takes up too much room to try to store on a SSD at least for what it would cost to buy the SSD's with enough space. Of course I find it fast enough for my needs.
Yeah, the spinners are going the way of IDE drives anyway and they're beginning to annoy me with their frequent spinning up/down and the delay involved, even though they work perfectly fine..Have three in mind, just haven't decided quite yet..Probably gonna roll with a 1TB Sabrent Rocket..Decisions, decisions.
Will move my Crucial MX500 to M.2_2 for backup/storage and put the newer/faster one in M.2_1 as the primary.
1. Sabrent Rocket
2. Gigabyte AORUS
3. Corsair MP600
Most folks would have disabled the HDD's from powering down years ago. Not sure why you're complaining about an easily resolved issue. HDD are not going away just yet.  They still have a huge cost advantage over SSD.
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Re: SSD Question
2020/08/03 11:23:50
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I also wouldn't recommend wasting a 1TB drive just for a boot drive...
300 Gb or so is more than enough for a Windows boot drive...
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Re: SSD Question
2020/08/03 21:25:33
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Most folks would have disabled the HDD's from powering down years ago. Not sure why you're complaining about an easily resolved issue.
Did that, years ago, thousands of years ago, still would spin up when accessing files..The problem was also detection..They would also still spin up and go through a detection process (I presume) at Windows startup/shutdown which massively slowed startup/shutdown times compared to having them disconnected or not even installed. They're sitting in a box now, problems solved.
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