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Replacing TIM on VREG MOSFETs for E758

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2009/11/19 13:26:58 (permalink)
Hi, was wondering if anyone had some tips for replacing the TIM on the VREG?

VREG is the hottest temp on this system here and I've got some MX-2, figure it will probably help temps a bit.

I've seen threads about mounting waterblocks on the MOSFETs but the system here is air cooled.

Took a look at Petra's MOSFET sinks but I'm not sure which would fit the E758 and if it would make much of a difference over the stock EVGA sink. Is anyone running any of these?

I think I saw posts saying there are thermal pads on the MOSFETs but its somewhere in the old forums and I can't seem to find it again. All I have are screwdrivers and MX-2, is that all thats needed for putting fresh TIM? The screws also look a little particular, from the top of the board at least.

Anybody who's removed/replaced the VREG sink please chime in with your experience or procedure. Thanks!

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    Re:Replacing TIM on VREG MOSFETs for E758 2009/11/19 14:21:50 (permalink)
    The mosfet's will have a thermal pad on it, You could probably replace this with MX-2, but they are pretty uneven and you might not get proper contact on all of them without a thermal pad.

    Not sure what the safe temps are for the mosfet's but they must be able to withstand a good amount of heat.


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    Re:Replacing TIM on VREG MOSFETs for E758 2009/11/19 14:58:43 (permalink)
    I found that zip-tieing a pair of 60mm fans to the VREG heatsink works just fine. Temps in the 50s in Prime95 with the i920 D0 at 3.8GHz. Quick and easy fix.

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    Re:Replacing TIM on VREG MOSFETs for E758 2009/11/19 15:24:35 (permalink)
    although im highly interested in people with experience in this mod chiming in something that i learned from a recent thread is that if your end up putting your mx'2 on there make sure that it doesnt touch any other components

    im assuming mx-2 has some electrical conductivity like AS5 im not sure though.

    the mosfets on my air cooled x58 e758 are in the 80's and are easily the hottest part in my case.




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    Re:Replacing TIM on VREG MOSFETs for E758 2009/11/19 15:36:07 (permalink)
    Yea VREG is definitely the hottest part of these boards.

    I know MX-2 is not conductive or capacitive like AS5 so it should be ok for MOSFETs. AS Ceramique should also be fine.

    Looks like the thing missing is a new thermal pad in case the old isn't in good condition.

    I'm wondering if the screws can be tightened to take care of the gap that removing the thermal pad would leave. Direct contact with the heatsink to the MOSFETs with a spread of MX-2 in between and no thermal pad is a good idea or bad idea?

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    Re:Replacing TIM on VREG MOSFETs for E758 2009/11/19 20:42:49 (permalink)
    Yes, you can swap the thermal pad for thermal paste but as stated, the process can be tricky since the heatsink usually doesn't conform to the profile of the MOSFETs well.

    You may get lucky and have the heatsink fit well against the MOSFETs or it may fit badly.  Kind of luck of the draw.

    If you want to do it, be prepared to do it to the end or have a spare new thermal pad handy in case you ruin the original and see that the work necessary to make the heatsink fit well with TIM is too difficult.

    The Process:

    Remove the motherboard from the case.  Remove the Vreg (MOSFET) heatsink by unscrewing the two screws on the backside of the motherboard.  Make sure you use the right size screwdriver otherwise you can easily round off the screws.  Remove the thermal pad.  Apply a small amound of thermal paste to each MOSFET.  By small, I mean less than an 1/8" dot.  Press the heatsink up to the MOSFETs by hand and then remove the heatsink again.  See how much thermal paste transferred from the MOSFETs to the heatsink.  If thermal paste transfer was poor, it means that your heatsink is warped differently than the motherboard and TIM will not provide good heat transfer.  If the two MOSFETs -- one on either end -- have poor contact, file down the heatsink standoff so that the heatsink will sit further down on the MOSFETs.  If the two end MOSFETs have good contact but the middle has poor contact, bend the middle of the heatsink down so that better contact is in the middle.  Etc.  This is a long process to get correct.  If you damage the heatsink, you are in a pickle.

    Good luck. 

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    Re:Replacing TIM on VREG MOSFETs for E758 2009/11/19 20:47:12 (permalink)
    I did it the other day and originally I seen DRASTIC drops in temps.. 49C Idle and 65 fully loaded.. I have done some other work and added some other stuff to the pc and for some reason I am back up to low-mid 50's on Idle and low-mid 70's on load.

    I will say it beats the hell out of 85+ any day of the week though, eh... I used MX-3, if it matters..

    


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    Re:Replacing TIM on VREG MOSFETs for E758 2009/11/19 21:43:42 (permalink)
    The advice so far is good, and suffice to say that ty_ger07's was the most *sobering*! None the less, it is a good thing to fix one way or another, as VREG temps in the 80's are excessive, and need to be fixed.

    I guess I'm a lucky guy! The reason I write that is because the procedure that I went through was pretty straight-forward. I didn't have a big gap in the sealing of the MOSFETs, I just had a couple thermal pads that needed to be taken OUTAATHERE! In my case, the pads were mis-applied, didn't fit or conform to the shape of the MOSFETs at all, and my fix turned out to be a better situation.

    I used Artic Silver Alumina, which is also a lighter-textured TIM, pretty "creamy and nice" to work with for this application, and it sealed the MOSFETs pretty much spot on the $$$. The VREG temps on that board were in the high 70-'s to low 80-'s originally, and after the treatment/procedure they mellowed out to the low 50-'s at idle, to mid 50's/low 60-'s under load, a big, BIG difference!

    I do *not* use fans on the VREG to this day, as after the treatment the temps have remained as above, 50-'s and 60-'s...on the E758 board. My Classified has been a good/great board all the way since I broke the box, for comparison, as the temps there have been low since Day No.1. I have never seen VREG temps higher than 59-degrees on the Classified, and that includes some rather extreme torture testing with 12GB RAM, 4438Mhz speed, and a warm evening to contend with.

    I hope you have some good luck, and that your VREG MOSFET's are conforming and easy to work with...if there's anything to be said about doing this job, it's this: you probably will not make it worse no matter what you do, if the temps are in the 80-'s or higher, so be patient, be good, and most of all, be lucky!

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