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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/24 18:20:23 (permalink)
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I understand the issues with not being able to ship sufficient GPU's, chip shortage is real, but this is ridiculous .. is a stupid WB, why you need to wait in a queue for it I don't understand. 
 
anyway - 
400-HC-1999-B14/23/2021 10:05:35 AM PTNo

Apparently manufacturing them wasn't high enough on the list of priorities. And, given that EVGA and maybe someday OptimusPC, might be the only places to get one for the K|NGP|N GPU, it kind of makes sense. But, I agree that it's dumb that there are not enough of them to go around. Had they taken pre-orders they could have identified exactly how many needed to be manufactured.


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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/24 18:22:46 (permalink)
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rodarkone
I understand the issues with not being able to ship sufficient GPU's, chip shortage is real, but this is ridiculous .. is a stupid WB, why you need to wait in a queue for it I don't understand. 
 
anyway - 
400-HC-1999-B14/23/2021 10:05:35 AM PTNo

Because they need to manufacture just enough that they aren't losing money on them with unsold units given its a niche product, and unfortunately we live in a world where literally anything in short supply will be scalped. That said they should have at least added a reserve/partial payment preorder a few months ago to give them a better idea on what the demand would ultimately be rather than a panicked notify button.


Totally agree. That would have made A WHOLE LOT MORE SENSE and they could have scaled production based on a known demand. I would have even been willing to pay in full up front. Somebody will blame it on COVID, LOL. 


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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/24 18:39:53 (permalink)
Dude (JealousBlue as I see brother Fox posted in between :D) we are in April (end of the month) ... EVGA have concerns about what ? 
 
1. they don't make money with this .. or they make an irrelevant amount, let's say 40% of the price  x 100 blocks .. is NOTHING for EVGA and this is an EXAGGERATION ... they don't make nowhere near that amount.
2. loosing money ? there are GTMS for a reason, they have, for sure a great sales and marketing team that can easily approximate (based on previous years/models) forecast how many they need to make to be on the safe side (in other words don't loose a dolar) 
3. payed preorder .. yes, but why now ? why not back in November/December timeframe, when the Kingpin card was launched ... if "loosing money" was a concern
 
I feel like this product is just for the EVGA hardcore fans and the experience should have been a lot better considering the times we are living, a lost opportunity to give us that "normality glimpse" that you can go on a website and buy something without waiting, without being frustrated that it sold out before you could press buy.
 
Anyway ... my 2 cents. 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/24 18:41:26 (permalink)
rodarkone
I understand the issues with not being able to ship sufficient GPU's, chip shortage is real, but this is ridiculous .. is a stupid WB, why you need to wait in a queue for it I don't understand. 
 
anyway - 400-HC-1999-B14/23/2021 10:05:35 AM PTNo


Well after enough people complain that finding products available for sale randomly isn’t fair, EVGA is trying to offer a fair platform that sells them on a first request basis so that you wait in a fair line rather than to the person who constantly checks the website. Or really, the person employing a bot, which usually means a scalper.

Now people are whining about the attempt to be fair.

Sadly it doesn’t seem it doesn’t matter how hard EVGA tries, there will always be complainers.

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/24 18:44:41 (permalink)
@christobol - you got it wrong buddy ... read again my post. 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/24 19:14:17 (permalink)
rodarkone
Dude (JealousBlue as I see brother Fox posted in between :D) we are in April (end of the month) ... EVGA have concerns about what ? 
 
1. they don't make money with this .. or they make an irrelevant amount, let's say 40% of the price  x 100 blocks .. is NOTHING for EVGA and this is an EXAGGERATION ... they don't make nowhere near that amount.
2. loosing money ? there are GTMS for a reason, they have, for sure a great sales and marketing team that can easily approximate (based on previous years/models) forecast how many they need to make to be on the safe side (in other words don't loose a dolar) 
3. payed preorder .. yes, but why now ? why not back in November/December timeframe, when the Kingpin card was launched ... if "loosing money" was a concern
 
I feel like this product is just for the EVGA hardcore fans and the experience should have been a lot better considering the times we are living, a lost opportunity to give us that "normality glimpse" that you can go on a website and buy something without waiting, without being frustrated that it sold out before you could press buy.
 
Anyway ... my 2 cents. 




1. Think you are grossly underestimating the profit margin EVGA makes on it's higher tier cards, they do also sell the 3080 hydrocopper in far greater numbers, which would divert manufacturing from that as well.
2. I can almost guarantee EVGA does not have the slightest clue how to forecast this year/last year, no one does. Given the chip shortage and 3080's being resold for 1800-2k you have untold THOUSANDS waiting on the Kingpin hybrid queue alone. Not sure if you have peaked in the Kingpin hybrid wait threads but there were many people still wait listed... people who may not even be able to get this card...planning on jumping in and buying this block. So yeah, as far as what to produce I'm sure it was a big question mark.
3. I mentioned that the "Preorder" should have been months ago, so we are in agreeance on that point.
 
The last point is basically a difference in opinion on whether these would have been botted/scalped if a open drop was done, I have less faith in humanity and think it would have been, you don't.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/24 19:14:43 (permalink)
not sure if there is a notify tracker form somewhere for me to enter. No buy link yet
 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/24 19:15:23 (permalink)
as of the time of this post...
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/24 19:24:34 (permalink)
JealousBlue
 
 
1. Think you are grossly underestimating the profit margin EVGA makes on it's higher tier cards, they do also sell the 3080 hydrocopper in far greater numbers, which would divert manufacturing from that as well.
2. I can almost guarantee EVGA does not have the slightest clue how to forecast this year/last year, no one does. Given the chip shortage and 3080's being resold for 1800-2k you have untold THOUSANDS waiting on the Kingpin hybrid queue alone. Not sure if you have peaked in the Kingpin hybrid wait threads but there were many people still wait listed... people who may not even be able to get this card...planning on jumping in and buying this block. So yeah, as far as what to produce I'm sure it was a big question mark.
3. I mentioned that the "Preorder" should have been months ago, so we are in agreeance on that point.
 
The last point is basically a difference in opinion on whether these would have been botted/scalped if a open drop was done, I have less faith in humanity and think it would have been, you don't.


ahhhah :) you give too little fate in EVGA, I would have understood a reason like "Kingpin card is already a WC card, so only crazy ppl will buy a new and expensive WB for it" and yes .. we are all crazy ppl :D probably thinking about esthetics before ROI.
 
yeah - big thanks to tbrown7552 for putting together the list - hat's off to you Sir !
 
post edited by rodarkone - 2021/04/24 19:31:26
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/24 19:25:30 (permalink)
Thanks for organizing the block queue list! 


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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/24 22:00:48 (permalink)
ooof. well for what it's worth, I've got a pretty low key method of blocking the KPE whilst utilizing the original cooler shroud in the works. I'll be sure to post a pic here if it pans out correctly lol
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/25 03:55:01 (permalink)
Hi guys!!

How can I add myself to the queue?

Is there any link? I could not find it.

Does anyone know if this is queue is also for EU customers?

Best,
Nikos
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/25 04:13:58 (permalink)
Nikos4Life
Hi guys!!

How can I add myself to the queue?

Is there any link? I could not find it.

Does anyone know if this is queue is also for EU customers?

Best,
Nikos



Need to be an elite member to sign up for the Auto notify
 
https://www.evga.com/prod...aspx?pn=400-HC-1999-B1
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/25 06:26:29 (permalink)
Thanks! I am on the list, I received the email. Not quite sure why I could not see the autonotify button on my phone.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/25 12:18:26 (permalink)
 10:00:29 AM PT 
 
One more for the list
 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/25 17:44:19 (permalink)
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I've yet to see the first "Order confirmed 3090 kingpin Hydro copper!" listing on ebay, maybe they did only make one block 




XD yeah mine definitely won't be showing up on EBay.  Should be here Tuesday, already got the Preparing for Shipment email.
 
One person was listed before me at 10:00:05 in the main queue thread, so there were at least 2 that went out 
 
It is a niche part of a niche part, so I am genuinely curious how many actually were ready to ship today... I messaged Jacob on Twitter about it but I doubt he'll reply with even a rough number. If I had to guess, it'd be pretty derpy to have less than 100 blocks ready, but who knows.  Considering they've probably sold at least 1-2 thousand via the queue at this point, of the actual card, doing at least 25% of the queue's current output in blocks makes sense for an initial launch... but then again who knows what logic they're using for that.
 
I think for starters I'll be doing just adding the card block to the loop, no second radiator, to see how temps are with just the 480mm/60mm thick behemoth handling both, then if the card is running warmer than I expect it to, I'll add the P360 back in up top later.
 
I wonder if the Kingpin AIO actua... oh right, I can't resell it because I have to put it back on if I ever need to RMA the card.  
 
Speaking of, does the Kingpin AIO actually fit other 3090s?  That'd be kind of neat if it does, extra cooling power with a 360 vs 240mm radiator hybrid vs hybrid... or taking a lower tier 3090 & sticking a 360 AIO on it.  Only downside would be you'd need VRM cooling, since the Kingpin VRM heatsinks only work on the KP card.


Where are you getting they sold at least 1-2 thousand KP cards already?

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/25 21:18:16 (permalink)
Nikos4Life
Hi guys!!

How can I add myself to the queue?

Is there any link? I could not find it.

Does anyone know if this is queue is also for EU customers?

Best,
Nikos



You have to join the EU Que: EVGA - EU - Intelligent Innovation - Official Website
For which it's not available at the moment, sorry I didn't check beforehand.
The US Que will not ship to the EU.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/26 05:42:52 (permalink)
Is there an 8 hour limit to buy the block like there is for the card?
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/26 06:04:41 (permalink)
Btw Jacob wrote yesterday on Twitter:

„ Yes notify only. Some notify shipped last yesterday, more next week.“
post edited by badix89 - 2021/04/26 06:08:41
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/26 07:26:14 (permalink)
You have already entered for a notify on the following date/time: 4/23/2021 10:00:11 AM.
My KP NEEDS this!
Crazy to think that the stock is that low. What a world were in! 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/26 09:25:00 (permalink)
I got the email to purchase the kingpin block
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/26 09:26:45 (permalink)
kit purchased.    
notify time: 10:00:06
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/26 09:29:43 (permalink)
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kit purchased.    
notify time: 10:00:06


drip.....
 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/26 09:29:58 (permalink)
purchased.  Remember to use an associate code for an additional $30 discount.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/26 09:30:40 (permalink)
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I got the email to purchase the kingpin block

 
g4z808
kit purchased.    
notify time: 10:00:06



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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/26 09:36:19 (permalink)
I received my link today at 12 EST.  Order placed. My sign-up time was 10:00:07.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/26 09:37:34 (permalink)
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I received my link today at 12 EST.  Order placed. My sign-up time was 10:00:07.



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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/26 09:42:07 (permalink)
400-HC-1999-B1     4/23/2021 10:00:08 AM PT    Yes
purchased.
Using enewt's code, thanks!
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/26 09:43:28 (permalink)
Adding my timestamp even though it'll be way down the list hah.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/04/26 09:45:41 (permalink)
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400-HC-1999-B1     4/23/2021 10:00:08 AM PT    Yes
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