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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/11 14:26:16 (permalink)
I already have a moodded corsair 240 rad on mine. And I keep backplate and memory heat sink. Does this kit let you keep both plates?
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/11 15:54:37 (permalink)
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I already have a moodded corsair 240 rad on mine. And I keep backplate and memory heat sink. Does this kit let you keep both plates?


@ evga website (can't post full links yet): /support/manuals/files/400-HY-1384-B1.pdf

It seems you can, the way I interpret the manual. Backplate seems to be kept and I would guess any memory heat sink that could fit under the cover would work. The only issue might be to get the fan in place with other memory heat sinks, since it seems to be attached to one of the heat sinks?
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/13 06:21:44 (permalink)
Anyone gotten eta updates for the ftw3 kits yet.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/13 17:17:12 (permalink)
No answer from jacob anywhere...maybe he’s hoping they’ll come in by Friday 🤷🏾‍♂️




 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/13 17:26:37 (permalink)
Yep i been hoping for 3 weeks now. Maybe I'll just wait for the kingpin hybrid.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/14 13:28:21 (permalink)
Jacob just answered me on the live stream...still says FTW3 Hybrid kits will release this month, within the next week or so.  More regular hybrid kits will be available soon too, most likely early next week.




 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/14 15:42:22 (permalink)
Hmm. Still not sure about the kit though. After going through many scenarios of 99% gpu usage on a FTW3 for hours, temps are looking nice and has little to no sound compared to hybrid pump etc. Makes you think twice. no rush.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/14 15:44:57 (permalink)
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Hmm. Still not sure about the kit though. After going through many scenarios of 99% gpu usage on a FTW3 for hours, temps are looking nice and has little to no sound compared to hybrid pump etc. Makes you think twice. no rush.


Yeah same here, have been gaming with my 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra for a few weeks now, don't think I have seen my GPU temp get above 65c yet.

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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/14 17:07:14 (permalink)
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Hmm. Still not sure about the kit though. After going through many scenarios of 99% gpu usage on a FTW3 for hours, temps are looking nice and has little to no sound compared to hybrid pump etc. Makes you think twice. no rush.


Yeah same here, have been gaming with my 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra for a few weeks now, don't think I have seen my GPU temp get above 65c yet.



I hear you...I just want to put my build together and be done.  I don't want to pop the card out and add the kit later, i'd rather do the install all at once.  It sounds like you guys are probably going to skip out on the hybrid now lol




 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/14 19:02:44 (permalink)
Got my hybrid today. After a moderately difficult install I am happy to say that the performance of this kit is great! I have a 2080 ti xc oced to 2070, on air i hit 81c. With this installed I only hit 61c ! Another positive that I wasn’t expecting was the massive heat drop reduced the temp of my 960 evo that sits right above the card. It was getting up to 68c which is almost throttling temp. Now it’s down to 50c. Noise wise I can hear a slight buzzing from the pump. It’s not terrible. But noticeable. I swapped fans to a corsair ml 120. I am very happy with my purchase. I would caution those who aren’t comfortable taking apart their card to wait for the preinstalled version. It is not the easiest thing to do. Any questions hit me up
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/14 19:05:34 (permalink)
Here’s the finished project
Parts - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V33bfH
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/14 21:38:21 (permalink)
Dude that is the most packed case ever. Yet, I feel like the airflow is probably pretty efficient - what do your temps look like?
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/14 23:20:09 (permalink)
Got the hybrid kit installed on my 2080 ti fe. My temp before was 73c with an overclock of 2070/1000. Now I’m running 54c max.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/15 01:24:08 (permalink)
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Got my hybrid today. After a moderately difficult install I am happy to say that the performance of this kit is great! I have a 2080 ti xc oced to 2070, on air i hit 81c. With this installed I only hit 61c ! Another positive that I wasn’t expecting was the massive heat drop reduced the temp of my 960 evo that sits right above the card. It was getting up to 68c which is almost throttling temp. Now it’s down to 50c. Noise wise I can hear a slight buzzing from the pump. It’s not terrible. But noticeable. I swapped fans to a corsair ml 120. I am very happy with my purchase. I would caution those who aren’t comfortable taking apart their card to wait for the preinstalled version. It is not the easiest thing to do. Any questions hit me up

It was really that bad?  The YouTube vids and what not I checked out for the 1080 series didn't see too difficult...how long did it take you?




 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/15 04:06:15 (permalink)
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Dude that is the most packed case ever. Yet, I feel like the airflow is probably pretty efficient - what do your temps look like?

Yes it is literally full! But temps are amazingly good. The air flow of this case is perfect. Even with the partial blockage of the front 120 fan. I’m not too happy with the 9900k performance. I’m sure it’s the z370-I board. Not a very good overclocker. It’s only running with a few cores at 5 and the rest at 4.8 using adaptive voltage of 1.3. Gets up to 78 c under load.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/15 04:24:42 (permalink)
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Got my hybrid today. After a moderately difficult install I am happy to say that the performance of this kit is great! I have a 2080 ti xc oced to 2070, on air i hit 81c. With this installed I only hit 61c ! Another positive that I wasn’t expecting was the massive heat drop reduced the temp of my 960 evo that sits right above the card. It was getting up to 68c which is almost throttling temp. Now it’s down to 50c. Noise wise I can hear a slight buzzing from the pump. It’s not terrible. But noticeable. I swapped fans to a corsair ml 120. I am very happy with my purchase. I would caution those who aren’t comfortable taking apart their card to wait for the preinstalled version. It is not the easiest thing to do. Any questions hit me up

It was really that bad?  The YouTube vids and what not I checked out for the 1080 series didn't see too difficult...how long did it take you?

It’s not difficult. Just meticulous I guess. First off make sure you print out the instructions from the website. The one they provide is very small and hard the read. Or my eyes are just too old. Then the amount of times you have to flip the card back and forth while attached to the radiator. The other tricky part is routing the wires while putting the cover on. The directions are very vague. Took me about 2 hours from start to up and running. I made a little bracket to mount the radiator to the 200mm fan in front. Tight fit but it worked out perfect. This kit has an additional heat sink compared to the 1080 hybrids. So every component is covered.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/15 05:06:26 (permalink)
Thinking I am probably going to pass on the kit now, my air cooled temps are not bad at all.

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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/15 06:35:57 (permalink)
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It was really that bad?  The YouTube vids and what not I checked out for the 1080 series didn't see too difficult...how long did it take you?



Did it on my TitanXm back then it for people who likes these kind of things, i actually had a blast doing it. If you LOVE working on your computer then you'll LOVE working on your GPU no doubt. You have to be careful and precise but besides that, it's pretty much "follow the instructions". People that aren't comfortable with these kind of things tend to be stressed doing it and end up not having a good experience. But i understand our other fellow forum member about the instructions being way too small, they are. They were on the TitanXm back then.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/15 07:54:40 (permalink)
Now that i've tried and tried to get things working with EVGA Precision X1 i'm 100% sure i'm going to get a Hybrid kit. Overall, the software isn't good at all. The OSD works in like 10% of the games when you compare it to Afterburner and you're very limited in terms of versatility (information placement and OSD modifications). I'm sad about this. And the fact is that Afterburner ONLY controls 1 fan out of 3 (FTW3 cards). The fan it controls is the one that is the closest to the back of the case which doesn't help at all. So if you want a good OSD with complete fan curve support you're stuck trying to mix PX1 and Afterburner. What that does is that one program takes over the other and vice versa. Unless i'm missing something here, all of this is garbage. Now on to the solution. Once you install the Hybrid kit, you get only 1 fan (which Afterburner will most likely be able to control. Not 100% sure, will have to test it out) and THEN you plug your RAD fans (Push/Pull) on to the motherboard (as i've always done) so THAT WAY you can have Afterburner running as usual with custom fan curves and versatility and ADD TO THAT the fact that the OSD will work as usual since it's not EVGA's poor implementation as of now. I know this is not the place to post this kind of information but for ME that is a fact that MAKES ME want to get a Hybrid kit because PX1's overall usage is just not there for me, not at all.
 
Maybe this will help you make a decision regarding the Hybrid kit. I for one as for yesterday was telling myself, meh card doesn't go over 60-65c why would i get a Hybrid ? Well once i started trying to get Afterburner's OSD and a Custom fan curve running together it hasn't been smooth at all. 

Clarification, for those that don't care about the OSD (EVGA or Afterburner), don't mind all of this! Custom fan curves on PX1 are working good, it's only when you try to get Afterburner's OSD to work in "tandem" with PX1 that's where the sht hit the fan. 
 
Edit typos.
 
post edited by Avenger411 - 2018/12/15 07:59:43
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/15 10:22:52 (permalink)
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Clarification, for those that don't care about the OSD (EVGA or Afterburner), don't mind all of this! Custom fan curves on PX1 are working good, it's only when you try to get Afterburner's OSD to work in "tandem" with PX1 that's where the sht hit the fan. 
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In my experience, it has always been like that when you have 2 different applications trying to access data from the same set of temperature sensors.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/15 12:22:39 (permalink)
This is so disappointing every launch EVGA takes forever to get Hybrid cards available. I'm getting real close to just getting an MSI Sea Hawk X. Same thing happened with the 1080 launch, took forever and I ended up getting the Gigabyte Waterforce. I'm really disappointed with the tweet regarding the actual Hybrid cards "coming later". I was really hoping to get an FTW3 Hybrid this time but these delays are getting ridiculous.
post edited by PopinFRESH007 - 2018/12/15 13:17:26
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/17 03:23:33 (permalink)
FTW3 Hybrid kits, can we get an ETA ? I’ve read “this week” sonewhere in the forums but a date would be great.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/17 05:15:32 (permalink)
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Now that i've tried and tried to get things working with EVGA Precision X1 i'm 100% sure i'm going to get a Hybrid kit. Overall, the software isn't good at all. The OSD works in like 10% of the games when you compare it to Afterburner and you're very limited in terms of versatility (information placement and OSD modifications). I'm sad about this. And the fact is that Afterburner ONLY controls 1 fan out of 3 (FTW3 cards). The fan it controls is the one that is the closest to the back of the case which doesn't help at all. So if you want a good OSD with complete fan curve support you're stuck trying to mix PX1 and Afterburner. What that does is that one program takes over the other and vice versa. Unless i'm missing something here, all of this is garbage. Now on to the solution. Once you install the Hybrid kit, you get only 1 fan (which Afterburner will most likely be able to control. Not 100% sure, will have to test it out) and THEN you plug your RAD fans (Push/Pull) on to the motherboard (as i've always done) so THAT WAY you can have Afterburner running as usual with custom fan curves and versatility and ADD TO THAT the fact that the OSD will work as usual since it's not EVGA's poor implementation as of now. I know this is not the place to post this kind of information but for ME that is a fact that MAKES ME want to get a Hybrid kit because PX1's overall usage is just not there for me, not at all.
 
Maybe this will help you make a decision regarding the Hybrid kit. I for one as for yesterday was telling myself, meh card doesn't go over 60-65c why would i get a Hybrid ? Well once i started trying to get Afterburner's OSD and a Custom fan curve running together it hasn't been smooth at all. 

Clarification, for those that don't care about the OSD (EVGA or Afterburner), don't mind all of this! Custom fan curves on PX1 are working good, it's only when you try to get Afterburner's OSD to work in "tandem" with PX1 that's where the sht hit the fan. 
 
Edit typos.
 


I'm thinking I'm going to get a kit too.  My card is still in the boxz like the rest of my other parts...but I just want it for peace of mind.  Sucks that you haven't had much luck getting the fan straight, hopefully the kit brings some stability.
 
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FTW3 Hybrid kits, can we get an ETA ? I’ve read “this week” sonewhere in the forums but a date would be great.

 
Last week on the 12 hour live stream he said something like..this month,  in two weeks...two weeks and this month is over.  So who knows.  I'm trying to stay hopeful.  I wanted one so I could put my build together during Xmas break, but that's not looking like it will be possible.




 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/17 07:05:32 (permalink)
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Well you could always install it without the kit for the time being if you're willing to install a hybrid kit by yourself i figure that installing and removing the gpu from the motherboard is quite easy for you. The ONLY WAY i found how to make the fans work with both programs (this could benefit others) is that the FTW3 (2080/2080ti) has three fans front, mid, back. EVGA Precision X1 controls the 3 fans flawlessly. Afterburner only controls the back fan. So what i did is that in my PX1 fan profile (which is saved on hardware apparently so you don't have to leave the program running) i'm only controling the mid and front fan so that when i leave Afterburner running (because rivatuner is CLEARLY better than EVGA's OSD and that's why i want Afterburner) i recreate the same fan profile (PX1 mid,front) for the back fan. This way my three fans are all running at the same rpm/% and i get to keep rivatuner. Also, add to that a fellow FTW3 (1080ti) owner from another thread that was having the same issue with the OSD/Fan profiles when mixing PX1/AB found that when getting the Hybrid kit his gpu (1080ti ftw3) didn't fix his problem because AB wasn't recognizing the Hybrid's fan so he probably ended up doing the same thing as i'm doing even though he only has 1 fan (hybrid kit for the 1080ti ftw3) compared to his stock 3fans. There's another thing to think about when getting the hybrid kit. I have a Rampage V board from Asus and 3x m2. 1 of the m2 is located right behind the GPU so with the FTW3 being this big, the cooler is radiating heat straight onto my OS m2 which is alright since it's not used to much but still for someone who has that m2 slot for gaming or heavy file transfer etc the hybrid kit would fix that problem.
 
Anyways. There's really no point for me to detail all of this here but if it can help someone, good :)
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/17 09:05:19 (permalink)
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@Topless_Stang
 
Well you could always install it without the kit for the time being if you're willing to install a hybrid kit by yourself i figure that installing and removing the gpu from the motherboard is quite easy for you. The ONLY WAY i found how to make the fans work with both programs (this could benefit others) is that the FTW3 (2080/2080ti) has three fans front, mid, back. EVGA Precision X1 controls the 3 fans flawlessly. Afterburner only controls the back fan. So what i did is that in my PX1 fan profile (which is saved on hardware apparently so you don't have to leave the program running) i'm only controling the mid and front fan so that when i leave Afterburner running (because rivatuner is CLEARLY better than EVGA's OSD and that's why i want Afterburner) i recreate the same fan profile (PX1 mid,front) for the back fan. This way my three fans are all running at the same rpm/% and i get to keep rivatuner. Also, add to that a fellow FTW3 (1080ti) owner from another thread that was having the same issue with the OSD/Fan profiles when mixing PX1/AB found that when getting the Hybrid kit his gpu (1080ti ftw3) didn't fix his problem because AB wasn't recognizing the Hybrid's fan so he probably ended up doing the same thing as i'm doing even though he only has 1 fan (hybrid kit for the 1080ti ftw3) compared to his stock 3fans. There's another thing to think about when getting the hybrid kit. I have a Rampage V board from Asus and 3x m2. 1 of the m2 is located right behind the GPU so with the FTW3 being this big, the cooler is radiating heat straight onto my OS m2 which is alright since it's not used to much but still for someone who has that m2 slot for gaming or heavy file transfer etc the hybrid kit would fix that problem.
 
Anyways. There's really no point for me to detail all of this here but if it can help someone, good :)


Thanks for the info.  It's not that I don't feel comfortable adding the Hybrid kit later, I just wanted to do my install all at once...properly plan it & get some good cable management going.  What kinda over clock are you getting?  How much better did MSI do for you & your chip?






 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/17 09:34:18 (permalink)
I see i understand you. Well hard to say because system's been crashing for the past 2 days. I'm about to get some help about that right now, my event viewer is full of nvlddmkm errors with many different descriptions that i can't make anything out of it myself. MSI is better only because of the OSD besides that PX1 can do everything just as good but the program itself (PX1) feels not finished and less stable.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/17 11:49:13 (permalink)
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I see i understand you. Well hard to say because system's been crashing for the past 2 days. I'm about to get some help about that right now, my event viewer is full of nvlddmkm errors with many different descriptions that i can't make anything out of it myself. MSI is better only because of the OSD besides that PX1 can do everything just as good but the program itself (PX1) feels not finished and less stable.


That sucks...hopefully u can get it sorted out.  So the overclock was the same, you just prefer the look of Afterburner?  What kind of an overclock dod you get with your chip?


 




 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/17 11:57:34 (permalink)
Well it’s a 2080 so not a Ti but still i’ve never overclocked it, it’s boosting itself up to 1980/2010mhz but i get massive system crash so it’s dumb.. Trying to troubleshoot it and if all fails i’ll rma or just ask a refund and don’t know what i’ll do.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/17 12:29:06 (permalink)
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Well it’s a 2080 so not a Ti but still i’ve never overclocked it, it’s boosting itself up to 1980/2010mhz but i get massive system crash so it’s dumb.. Trying to troubleshoot it and if all fails i’ll rma or just ask a refund and don’t know what i’ll do.

New build or did you add the card to an existing build?  Judging from the file name you mentioned I i would assume its a driver file issue, hope it's not your card.  I thought the 2080 kits already got released?




 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/12/17 13:29:23 (permalink)
The ftw3 kits didn’t -_-

No not new build 5yo build that’s super stable, only new variable is the gpu so no doubt. I’ll try fresh windows etc but from early test it looks like the card is boosting itself too high for it’s own good. Like the card is rated for 1860ish and it boosts up to 2000mhz that’s quite a lot. I wonder if there a way to stop gpu boost from playing around with the OC and have a manual stable oc...
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