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Re: ROG Strix 3080 OC *450W* max power limit, 370w base.
2020/10/06 10:51:05
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Re: ROG Strix 3080 OC *450W* max power limit, 370w base.
2020/10/06 11:33:16
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I am going to move this into the General Hardware forum, as this isn’t an EVGA product. Just giving you a heads up before it is moved.
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Re: ROG Strix 3080 OC *450W* max power limit, 370w base.
2020/10/06 11:41:38
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I am going to move this into the General Hardware forum, as this isn’t an EVGA product. Just giving you a heads up before it is moved.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Re: ROG Strix 3080 OC *450W* max power limit, 370w base.
2020/10/06 11:45:50
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Interestingly, this card pulls very little power from the PCIe slot, as ASUS had claimed.
https://www.tweaktown.com...dition-review_full.png
most cards these days only have some of the power connections tied to the slot (like for things like the fans and LED lights). you'll never see the full 75W from the slot anymore except on cards that only get slot power.
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Re: ROG Strix 3080 OC *450W* max power limit, 370w base.
2020/10/06 11:46:39
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https://youtu.be/frHzkp82Q0M?t=172
Come on EVGA, we know you want to release a more powerful 3080 FTW3 bios.
Did you notice it still maxes out at 2085 MHz in his video despite the huge power limit increase? That's because the card would still be voltage limited so you can increase the PL to the moon and it wouldn't make a lick of difference. I had a Strix 2080 Ti w/an unlocked PL vbios and it made zero difference in max OC headroom vs stock. These cards are designed for hardcore benchmark chasers who do hardware mods + extreme cooling to squeeze out the highest 3DMark score. In fact, I think the Strix has areas specifically reserved for hardware voltage modding, if you look at der8auers review of the card, he talks about it. The FT3 is more balanced for the high end PC gamer on air/water but not LN2, I think that's what their Kingpin cards are for. For gaming, even getting an extra 50 MHz would yield practically no FPS gain, this is only for benchmark chasers who want to flaunt an e-peen.
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Re: ROG Strix 3080 OC *450W* max power limit, 370w base.
2020/10/06 12:03:12
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kevinc313
https://youtu.be/frHzkp82Q0M?t=172
Come on EVGA, we know you want to release a more powerful 3080 FTW3 bios.
Did you notice it still maxes out at 2085 MHz in his video despite the huge power limit increase? That's because the card would still be voltage limited so you can increase the PL to the moon and it wouldn't make a lick of difference. I had a Strix 2080 Ti w/an unlocked PL vbios and it made zero difference in max OC headroom vs stock. These cards are designed for hardcore benchmark chasers who do hardware mods + extreme cooling to squeeze out the highest 3DMark score. In fact, I think the Strix has areas specifically reserved for hardware voltage modding, if you look at der8auers review of the card, he talks about it. The FT3 is more balanced for the high end PC gamer on air/water but not LN2, I think that's what their Kingpin cards are for. For gaming, even getting an extra 50 MHz would yield practically no FPS gain, this is only for benchmark chasers who want to flaunt an e-peen.
You didn't watch closely, he hit 2,115mhz @ 1.050V with a light (seemingly cpu single core bound?) load, while gaming, without really trying. An Ampere card that can solidly clock above 2k mhz under full load and sustain it is very impressive, looks like this can just do it. I'm officially disappointed with the FTW3 offering this generation and have very little desire to own the card. I've got a pre-order for it that I'm probably going to cancel.
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Re: ROG Strix 3080 OC *450W* max power limit, 370w base.
2020/10/06 12:32:30
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kevinc313
https://youtu.be/frHzkp82Q0M?t=172
Come on EVGA, we know you want to release a more powerful 3080 FTW3 bios.
Did you notice it still maxes out at 2085 MHz in his video despite the huge power limit increase? That's because the card would still be voltage limited so you can increase the PL to the moon and it wouldn't make a lick of difference. I had a Strix 2080 Ti w/an unlocked PL vbios and it made zero difference in max OC headroom vs stock. These cards are designed for hardcore benchmark chasers who do hardware mods + extreme cooling to squeeze out the highest 3DMark score. In fact, I think the Strix has areas specifically reserved for hardware voltage modding, if you look at der8auers review of the card, he talks about it. The FT3 is more balanced for the high end PC gamer on air/water but not LN2, I think that's what their Kingpin cards are for. For gaming, even getting an extra 50 MHz would yield practically no FPS gain, this is only for benchmark chasers who want to flaunt an e-peen.
You didn't watch closely, he hit 2,115mhz @ 1.050V with a light (seemingly cpu single core bound?) load, while gaming, without really trying.
I'm officially disappointed with the FTW3 offering this generation and have very little desire to own the card. I've got a pre-order for it that I'm probably going to cancel.
It spiked to 2115 MHz but it didn't hold and he only flashed the numbers intermittently. When he went back towards the end it fell below 2100 MHz: https://youtu.be/frHzkp82Q0M?t=229 Just goes to show the card is vrel limited with a high PL just like all other graphics cards in the past have been. There will no doubt be an unlocked FTW3 vbios that will remove the PL and you'll be able to do the same exact thing and still hit the same wall.
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Re: ROG Strix 3080 OC *450W* max power limit, 370w base.
2020/10/06 12:45:47
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It spiked to 2115 MHz but it didn't hold and he only flashed the numbers intermittently. When he went back towards the end it fell below 2100 MHz: https://youtu.be/frHzkp82Q0M?t=229 Just goes to show the card is vrel limited with a high PL just like all other graphics cards in the past have been. There will no doubt be an unlocked FTW3 vbios that will remove the PL and you'll be able to do the same exact thing and still hit the same wall.
You're missing the point. Clearly these ASUS cards are clocking REALLY well, while many other cards are NOT. Here's another video where a guy is getting 2,100mhz in Far Cry 5 at about 85-95% load, 350w. He doesn't show vcore, it's probably pretty low. https://youtu.be/olJNkCYK9sQ?t=427 The single most important spec for a GPU is power limit. Also, the Strix doesn't look like a clown car.
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Re: ROG Strix 3080 OC *450W* max power limit, 370w base.
2020/10/06 13:29:26
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At GN's video, Ultra runs full Port Royal Benchmark at +500Mhz and +30 Clock (from baseline) max powerdraw allowed. It is the non-MLCC version of the card so there's that.
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Re: ROG Strix 3080 OC *450W* max power limit, 370w base.
2020/10/06 13:37:11
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At GN's video, Ultra runs full Port Royal Benchmark at +500Mhz and +30 Clock (from baseline) max powerdraw allowed. It is the non-MLCC version of the card so there's that.
I agree it is very tough to compare with the variety of loads out there. Port Royal cannot clock as high as just a normal raster game.
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Re: ROG Strix 3080 OC *450W* max power limit, 370w base.
2020/10/06 17:22:12
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It spiked to 2115 MHz but it didn't hold and he only flashed the numbers intermittently. When he went back towards the end it fell below 2100 MHz: https://youtu.be/frHzkp82Q0M?t=229 Just goes to show the card is vrel limited with a high PL just like all other graphics cards in the past have been. There will no doubt be an unlocked FTW3 vbios that will remove the PL and you'll be able to do the same exact thing and still hit the same wall.
You're missing the point. Clearly these ASUS cards are clocking REALLY well, while many other cards are NOT. Here's another video where a guy is getting 2,100mhz in Far Cry 5 at about 85-95% load, 350w. He doesn't show vcore, it's probably pretty low.
https://youtu.be/olJNkCYK9sQ?t=427
The single most important spec for a GPU is power limit.
Also, the Strix doesn't look like a clown car.
And yet what I told you just came true: https://www.overclock.net....1753932/post-28645178There’s no reason to pay $850+ for Strix and get crap ASUS warranty when you can just vbios flash the ftw3.
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Re: ROG Strix 3080 OC *450W* max power limit, 370w base.
2020/10/06 18:01:17
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bkhan530
It spiked to 2115 MHz but it didn't hold and he only flashed the numbers intermittently. When he went back towards the end it fell below 2100 MHz: https://youtu.be/frHzkp82Q0M?t=229 Just goes to show the card is vrel limited with a high PL just like all other graphics cards in the past have been. There will no doubt be an unlocked FTW3 vbios that will remove the PL and you'll be able to do the same exact thing and still hit the same wall.
You're missing the point. Clearly these ASUS cards are clocking REALLY well, while many other cards are NOT. Here's another video where a guy is getting 2,100mhz in Far Cry 5 at about 85-95% load, 350w. He doesn't show vcore, it's probably pretty low.
https://youtu.be/olJNkCYK9sQ?t=427
The single most important spec for a GPU is power limit.
Also, the Strix doesn't look like a clown car.
And yet what I told you just came true: https://www.overclock.net....1753932/post-28645178
There’s no reason to pay $850+ for Strix and get crap ASUS warranty when you can just vbios flash the ftw3.
LOL WUT. I made this thread because the 3080 Strix is the top bios choice right now for 3080 3x8-pin cards. Unproven, but still the top choice. Why wouldn't EVGA offer a better bios? Heck, I saw the thread on reddit where this bios was posted before I made this thread. The comments on OC.net about it being unlocked and like a shunt mod are questionable at best, the card is clocking well and reading out just like the actual Strix. If it was actually pulling over 500w it would get hotter. It seems to clock quite high and puts out very solid results. But is not unlocked, just MUCH better. https://fotos.subefotos.com/f31635bea6fd8ab2e8aae9ffd914d2b0o.jpg https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/51355499? You said "unlocked FTW3 bios", which is NOT a thing. There is likely an XOC 3080 bios with some sort of insane power limit, which at least GN Steve has and used with LN2.
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Re: ROG Strix 3080 OC *450W* max power limit, 370w base.
2020/10/10 17:52:50
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