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2019/10/15 19:04:52 (permalink)
Thinking of upgrading to the RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Overclocked card (currently have a RTX 2080 Ti FE LoL). Is it as easy as putting the selector switch at the bottom of the card on OC and off you go with more performance? Or do you still need to open up X1 to"dial it in" so to speak.

I mean sure you would want to monitor the card in X1 but would you have to mess with voltage, memory & speed when putting the card in the OC mode on the card itself? 
 
Also, on power i am running EVGA Supernova 750W P2 Platnium Modular. Do i need to step it up to a 850? or is my 750W fine? I'm running a i9-9900K. I do OC to 5GHz.

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    Re: Questions on the FTW3 Ultra Overclocked RTX 2080 Ti 2019/10/15 19:24:03 (permalink)
    X1 is not required... Nvdia Boost 4.0 will auto OC your GPU ........ Cooler is faster
     
    X1 can help you get every last drop out of the GPU
     
    Your 750W should work
     
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    Re: Questions on the FTW3 Ultra Overclocked RTX 2080 Ti 2019/10/15 19:39:29 (permalink)
    The "OC bios" is just a slightly different fan curve that runs the fans at idle.  You need afterburner or X1 to "overclock", though as above Boost 4.0, higher stock boost clock curve and cool temps will give higher clocks.  The chip and memory is the same as your founders card.  Power limit is a good bit higher, stock boost clock a bit higher, cooler is much better. 
     
    I run a 9900k and a 2080Ti hybrid on an evga 650 PSU, UPS says I'm pulling about 450w at the the wall under max GPU power, but I don't OC the CPU or load it fully when gaming at 4K 60hz.
     
    You might get a 5%+ improvement max OC vs. max OC with the FTW3 due to the better cooling, higher 373w power limit.  Stock vs. stock maybe 2-3%.
     
    If you're willing to (possibly?) void the warranty of your founders card, you can put a 240mm AIO on it with an adapter kit like a NZXT Kraken G12 and flash to a 380w bios.  That will turn it into a monster.  High end push pull fans and intake air should keep it around 50C (maybe less) at full power and give you usable sustained clocks around 2100mhz or higher with an OC.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/10/15 20:43:07
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    Re: Questions on the FTW3 Ultra Overclocked RTX 2080 Ti 2019/10/16 11:40:34 (permalink)
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    The "OC bios" is just a slightly different fan curve that runs the fans at idle.  You need afterburner or X1 to "overclock", though as above Boost 4.0, higher stock boost clock curve and cool temps will give higher clocks.  The chip and memory is the same as your founders card.  Power limit is a good bit higher, stock boost clock a bit higher, cooler is much better. 
     
    I run a 9900k and a 2080Ti hybrid on an evga 650 PSU, UPS says I'm pulling about 450w at the the wall under max GPU power, but I don't OC the CPU or load it fully when gaming at 4K 60hz.
     
    You might get a 5%+ improvement max OC vs. max OC with the FTW3 due to the better cooling, higher 373w power limit.  Stock vs. stock maybe 2-3%.
     
    If you're willing to (possibly?) void the warranty of your founders card, you can put a 240mm AIO on it with an adapter kit like a NZXT Kraken G12 and flash to a 380w bios.  That will turn it into a monster.  High end push pull fans and intake air should keep it around 50C (maybe less) at full power and give you usable sustained clocks around 2100mhz or higher with an OC.


    Yeah no, don't spread falseness here. It does not void your warranty unless you damage the card in the process.
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    Re: Questions on the FTW3 Ultra Overclocked RTX 2080 Ti 2019/10/16 12:07:25 (permalink)
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    The "OC bios" is just a slightly different fan curve that runs the fans at idle.  You need afterburner or X1 to "overclock", though as above Boost 4.0, higher stock boost clock curve and cool temps will give higher clocks.  The chip and memory is the same as your founders card.  Power limit is a good bit higher, stock boost clock a bit higher, cooler is much better. 
     
    I run a 9900k and a 2080Ti hybrid on an evga 650 PSU, UPS says I'm pulling about 450w at the the wall under max GPU power, but I don't OC the CPU or load it fully when gaming at 4K 60hz.
     
    You might get a 5%+ improvement max OC vs. max OC with the FTW3 due to the better cooling, higher 373w power limit.  Stock vs. stock maybe 2-3%.
     
    If you're willing to (possibly?) void the warranty of your founders card, you can put a 240mm AIO on it with an adapter kit like a NZXT Kraken G12 and flash to a 380w bios.  That will turn it into a monster.  High end push pull fans and intake air should keep it around 50C (maybe less) at full power and give you usable sustained clocks around 2100mhz or higher with an OC.


    Yeah no, don't spread falseness here. It does not void your warranty unless you damage the card in the process.



    Falseness?  Did you miss where I said POSSIBLY?  On an Nvidia Founders Edition card?
     
    Same dude?  Which is it?
     
    https://www.nvidia.com/en...ock-questions/2077245/
     
    People have taken their card apart and Nvidia has given them a hard time about it?   Hummmmmmmmmmmmm?
     
    Sounds like a lot of wiggle room for them to deny anything they want:
     
    WHAT DOES THIS WARRANTY NOT COVER?
    Any problems that do not relate specifically to a manufacturing defect or hardware product failure, including, but not limited to, problems caused by abuse, misuse, negligence, act of God (such as flood), misapplication of service by a party other than an authorized service representative, software, shipment damages, etc.

     
    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/support/warranty/
     
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/10/16 12:19:03
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    Re: Questions on the FTW3 Ultra Overclocked RTX 2080 Ti 2019/10/16 13:34:02 (permalink)
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    The "OC bios" is just a slightly different fan curve that runs the fans at idle.  You need afterburner or X1 to "overclock", though as above Boost 4.0, higher stock boost clock curve and cool temps will give higher clocks.  The chip and memory is the same as your founders card.  Power limit is a good bit higher, stock boost clock a bit higher, cooler is much better. 

    I run a 9900k and a 2080Ti hybrid on an evga 650 PSU, UPS says I'm pulling about 450w at the the wall under max GPU power, but I don't OC the CPU or load it fully when gaming at 4K 60hz.

    You might get a 5%+ improvement max OC vs. max OC with the FTW3 due to the better cooling, higher 373w power limit.  Stock vs. stock maybe 2-3%.

    If you're willing to (possibly?) void the warranty of your founders card, you can put a 240mm AIO on it with an adapter kit like a NZXT Kraken G12 and flash to a 380w bios.  That will turn it into a monster.  High end push pull fans and intake air should keep it around 50C (maybe less) at full power and give you usable sustained clocks around 2100mhz or higher with an OC.


    Yeah no, don't spread falseness here. It does not void your warranty unless you damage the card in the process.



    Falseness?  Did you miss where I said POSSIBLY?  On an Nvidia Founders Edition card?
     
    Same dude?  Which is it?
     
    https://www.nvidia.com/en...ock-questions/2077245/
     
    People have taken their card apart and Nvidia has given them a hard time about it?   Hummmmmmmmmmmmm?
     
    Sounds like a lot of wiggle room for them to deny anything they want:
     
    WHAT DOES THIS WARRANTY NOT COVER?
    Any problems that do not relate specifically to a manufacturing defect or hardware product failure, including, but not limited to, problems caused by abuse, misuse, negligence, act of God (such as flood), misapplication of service by a party other than an authorized service representative, software, shipment damages, etc.

     
    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/support/warranty/
     


    Maybe instead of linking a whole load of crap you'd call them up and find out for yourself las? They make videos for watercooling their own cards, they don't care as long as you don't damage it.
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    Re: Questions on the FTW3 Ultra Overclocked RTX 2080 Ti 2019/10/16 14:00:25 (permalink)
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    The "OC bios" is just a slightly different fan curve that runs the fans at idle.  You need afterburner or X1 to "overclock", though as above Boost 4.0, higher stock boost clock curve and cool temps will give higher clocks.  The chip and memory is the same as your founders card.  Power limit is a good bit higher, stock boost clock a bit higher, cooler is much better. 

    I run a 9900k and a 2080Ti hybrid on an evga 650 PSU, UPS says I'm pulling about 450w at the the wall under max GPU power, but I don't OC the CPU or load it fully when gaming at 4K 60hz.

    You might get a 5%+ improvement max OC vs. max OC with the FTW3 due to the better cooling, higher 373w power limit.  Stock vs. stock maybe 2-3%.

    If you're willing to (possibly?) void the warranty of your founders card, you can put a 240mm AIO on it with an adapter kit like a NZXT Kraken G12 and flash to a 380w bios.  That will turn it into a monster.  High end push pull fans and intake air should keep it around 50C (maybe less) at full power and give you usable sustained clocks around 2100mhz or higher with an OC.


    Yeah no, don't spread falseness here. It does not void your warranty unless you damage the card in the process.



    Falseness?  Did you miss where I said POSSIBLY?  On an Nvidia Founders Edition card?
     
    Same dude?  Which is it?
     
    https://www.nvidia.com/en...ock-questions/2077245/
     
    People have taken their card apart and Nvidia has given them a hard time about it?   Hummmmmmmmmmmmm?
     
    Sounds like a lot of wiggle room for them to deny anything they want:
     
    WHAT DOES THIS WARRANTY NOT COVER?
    Any problems that do not relate specifically to a manufacturing defect or hardware product failure, including, but not limited to, problems caused by abuse, misuse, negligence, act of God (such as flood), misapplication of service by a party other than an authorized service representative, software, shipment damages, etc.

     
    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/support/warranty/
     


    Maybe instead of linking a whole load of crap you'd call them up and find out for yourself las? They make videos for watercooling their own cards, they don't care as long as you don't damage it.



    Was that you on the Nvidia forum?
     
    Any time you disassemble or modify a card you risk being accused of damaging it during a warranty claim.  That includes EVGA.
     
    Ditto for cars and modifying them, even though by the letter of the law that supposedly doesn't void the warranty, if you show up with a modded car at the dealership they are typically going to give you all sorts of hassles with warranty.
     
    EVGA has been very clear that they will support warranty on their cards if you return it to them in stock condition.  Nvidia..........ehhhh.
     
    Here is Nvidia's youtube channel, the last time they did a water cooling video was 5 years ago, the last time they did an overclocking video was 4 years ago.  Where is Nvidia's overclocking software...............?
     
    https://www.youtube.com/user/nvidia/videos
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/10/16 14:11:37
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    Re: Questions on the FTW3 Ultra Overclocked RTX 2080 Ti 2019/10/16 14:06:38 (permalink)
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    The "OC bios" is just a slightly different fan curve that runs the fans at idle.  You need afterburner or X1 to "overclock", though as above Boost 4.0, higher stock boost clock curve and cool temps will give higher clocks.  The chip and memory is the same as your founders card.  Power limit is a good bit higher, stock boost clock a bit higher, cooler is much better. 

    I run a 9900k and a 2080Ti hybrid on an evga 650 PSU, UPS says I'm pulling about 450w at the the wall under max GPU power, but I don't OC the CPU or load it fully when gaming at 4K 60hz.

    You might get a 5%+ improvement max OC vs. max OC with the FTW3 due to the better cooling, higher 373w power limit.  Stock vs. stock maybe 2-3%.

    If you're willing to (possibly?) void the warranty of your founders card, you can put a 240mm AIO on it with an adapter kit like a NZXT Kraken G12 and flash to a 380w bios.  That will turn it into a monster.  High end push pull fans and intake air should keep it around 50C (maybe less) at full power and give you usable sustained clocks around 2100mhz or higher with an OC.


    Yeah no, don't spread falseness here. It does not void your warranty unless you damage the card in the process.



    Falseness?  Did you miss where I said POSSIBLY?  On an Nvidia Founders Edition card?

    Same dude?  Which is it?

    https://www.nvidia.com/en...ock-questions/2077245/

    People have taken their card apart and Nvidia has given them a hard time about it?   Hummmmmmmmmmmmm?

    Sounds like a lot of wiggle room for them to deny anything they want:

    WHAT DOES THIS WARRANTY NOT COVER?
    Any problems that do not relate specifically to a manufacturing defect or hardware product failure, including, but not limited to, problems caused by abuse, misuse, negligence, act of God (such as flood), misapplication of service by a party other than an authorized service representative, software, shipment damages, etc.


    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/support/warranty/



    Maybe instead of linking a whole load of crap you'd call them up and find out for yourself las? They make videos for watercooling their own cards, they don't care as long as you don't damage it.



    Was that you on the Nvidia forum?
     
    Any time you disassemble or modify a card you risk being accused of damaging it during a warranty claim.  That includes EVGA.
     
    Ditto for cars and modifying them, even though by the letter of the law that supposedly doesn't void the warranty, if you show up with a modded car at the dealership they are typically going to give you all sorts of hassles with warranty.


    Meme.
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    Re: Questions on the FTW3 Ultra Overclocked RTX 2080 Ti 2019/10/16 14:25:50 (permalink)
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    The "OC bios" is just a slightly different fan curve that runs the fans at idle.  You need afterburner or X1 to "overclock", though as above Boost 4.0, higher stock boost clock curve and cool temps will give higher clocks.  The chip and memory is the same as your founders card.  Power limit is a good bit higher, stock boost clock a bit higher, cooler is much better. 

    I run a 9900k and a 2080Ti hybrid on an evga 650 PSU, UPS says I'm pulling about 450w at the the wall under max GPU power, but I don't OC the CPU or load it fully when gaming at 4K 60hz.

    You might get a 5%+ improvement max OC vs. max OC with the FTW3 due to the better cooling, higher 373w power limit.  Stock vs. stock maybe 2-3%.

    If you're willing to (possibly?) void the warranty of your founders card, you can put a 240mm AIO on it with an adapter kit like a NZXT Kraken G12 and flash to a 380w bios.  That will turn it into a monster.  High end push pull fans and intake air should keep it around 50C (maybe less) at full power and give you usable sustained clocks around 2100mhz or higher with an OC.


    Yeah no, don't spread falseness here. It does not void your warranty unless you damage the card in the process.



    Falseness?  Did you miss where I said POSSIBLY?  On an Nvidia Founders Edition card?

    Same dude?  Which is it?

    https://www.nvidia.com/en...ock-questions/2077245/

    People have taken their card apart and Nvidia has given them a hard time about it?   Hummmmmmmmmmmmm?

    Sounds like a lot of wiggle room for them to deny anything they want:

    WHAT DOES THIS WARRANTY NOT COVER?
    Any problems that do not relate specifically to a manufacturing defect or hardware product failure, including, but not limited to, problems caused by abuse, misuse, negligence, act of God (such as flood), misapplication of service by a party other than an authorized service representative, software, shipment damages, etc.


    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/support/warranty/



    Maybe instead of linking a whole load of crap you'd call them up and find out for yourself las? They make videos for watercooling their own cards, they don't care as long as you don't damage it.



    Was that you on the Nvidia forum?
     
    Any time you disassemble or modify a card you risk being accused of damaging it during a warranty claim.  That includes EVGA.
     
    Ditto for cars and modifying them, even though by the letter of the law that supposedly doesn't void the warranty, if you show up with a modded car at the dealership they are typically going to give you all sorts of hassles with warranty.


    Meme.



     
    Yeah, I'm sure Nvidia is going to be totally chill with you flashing a 380w bios from one of their board partners on a founders card.  No problemo!  Not.
     
    I'm not going go into specifics, but I'm excessively capable of modifying one of these cards at the SMD level, then putting it back to stock so no one would be wiser.  Am I dumb enough to do that to my $1200 card?  Nope.  Would I expect warranty to be denied if I did that, even by EVGA?  Yes.
     
    I do not appreciate being accused of spreading false information, especially on a topic that is highly subjective.
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    Re: Questions on the FTW3 Ultra Overclocked RTX 2080 Ti 2019/10/16 14:33:51 (permalink)
    kevinc313
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    The "OC bios" is just a slightly different fan curve that runs the fans at idle.  You need afterburner or X1 to "overclock", though as above Boost 4.0, higher stock boost clock curve and cool temps will give higher clocks.  The chip and memory is the same as your founders card.  Power limit is a good bit higher, stock boost clock a bit higher, cooler is much better. 

    I run a 9900k and a 2080Ti hybrid on an evga 650 PSU, UPS says I'm pulling about 450w at the the wall under max GPU power, but I don't OC the CPU or load it fully when gaming at 4K 60hz.

    You might get a 5%+ improvement max OC vs. max OC with the FTW3 due to the better cooling, higher 373w power limit.  Stock vs. stock maybe 2-3%.

    If you're willing to (possibly?) void the warranty of your founders card, you can put a 240mm AIO on it with an adapter kit like a NZXT Kraken G12 and flash to a 380w bios.  That will turn it into a monster.  High end push pull fans and intake air should keep it around 50C (maybe less) at full power and give you usable sustained clocks around 2100mhz or higher with an OC.


    Yeah no, don't spread falseness here. It does not void your warranty unless you damage the card in the process.



    Falseness?  Did you miss where I said POSSIBLY?  On an Nvidia Founders Edition card?

    Same dude?  Which is it?

    https://www.nvidia.com/en...ock-questions/2077245/

    People have taken their card apart and Nvidia has given them a hard time about it?   Hummmmmmmmmmmmm?

    Sounds like a lot of wiggle room for them to deny anything they want:

    WHAT DOES THIS WARRANTY NOT COVER?
    Any problems that do not relate specifically to a manufacturing defect or hardware product failure, including, but not limited to, problems caused by abuse, misuse, negligence, act of God (such as flood), misapplication of service by a party other than an authorized service representative, software, shipment damages, etc.


    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/support/warranty/



    Maybe instead of linking a whole load of crap you'd call them up and find out for yourself las? They make videos for watercooling their own cards, they don't care as long as you don't damage it.



    Was that you on the Nvidia forum?

    Any time you disassemble or modify a card you risk being accused of damaging it during a warranty claim.  That includes EVGA.

    Ditto for cars and modifying them, even though by the letter of the law that supposedly doesn't void the warranty, if you show up with a modded car at the dealership they are typically going to give you all sorts of hassles with warranty.


    Meme.



     
    Yeah, I'm sure Nvidia is going to be totally chill with you flashing a 380w bios from one of their board partners on a founders card.  No problemo!  Not.
     
    I'm not going go into specifics, but I'm excessively capable of modifying one of these cards at the SMD level, then putting it back to stock so no one would be wiser.  Am I dumb enough to do that to my $1200 card?  Nope.  Would I expect warranty to be denied if I did that, even by EVGA?  Yes.
     
    I do not appreciate being accused of spreading false information, especially on a topic that is highly subjective.


    When did I ever mention flashing the bios? As long as you don't damage the card physically, waterblocks are absolutely fine, unless you get an Asus employee on a bad day.
    post edited by FROSTYBE3R - 2019/10/16 14:36:15
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    Re: Questions on the FTW3 Ultra Overclocked RTX 2080 Ti 2019/10/16 14:40:07 (permalink)
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    The "OC bios" is just a slightly different fan curve that runs the fans at idle.  You need afterburner or X1 to "overclock", though as above Boost 4.0, higher stock boost clock curve and cool temps will give higher clocks.  The chip and memory is the same as your founders card.  Power limit is a good bit higher, stock boost clock a bit higher, cooler is much better. 

    I run a 9900k and a 2080Ti hybrid on an evga 650 PSU, UPS says I'm pulling about 450w at the the wall under max GPU power, but I don't OC the CPU or load it fully when gaming at 4K 60hz.

    You might get a 5%+ improvement max OC vs. max OC with the FTW3 due to the better cooling, higher 373w power limit.  Stock vs. stock maybe 2-3%.

    If you're willing to (possibly?) void the warranty of your founders card, you can put a 240mm AIO on it with an adapter kit like a NZXT Kraken G12 and flash to a 380w bios.  That will turn it into a monster.  High end push pull fans and intake air should keep it around 50C (maybe less) at full power and give you usable sustained clocks around 2100mhz or higher with an OC.


    Yeah no, don't spread falseness here. It does not void your warranty unless you damage the card in the process.



    Falseness?  Did you miss where I said POSSIBLY?  On an Nvidia Founders Edition card?

    Same dude?  Which is it?

    https://www.nvidia.com/en...ock-questions/2077245/

    People have taken their card apart and Nvidia has given them a hard time about it?   Hummmmmmmmmmmmm?

    Sounds like a lot of wiggle room for them to deny anything they want:

    WHAT DOES THIS WARRANTY NOT COVER?
    Any problems that do not relate specifically to a manufacturing defect or hardware product failure, including, but not limited to, problems caused by abuse, misuse, negligence, act of God (such as flood), misapplication of service by a party other than an authorized service representative, software, shipment damages, etc.


    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/support/warranty/



    Maybe instead of linking a whole load of crap you'd call them up and find out for yourself las? They make videos for watercooling their own cards, they don't care as long as you don't damage it.



    Was that you on the Nvidia forum?

    Any time you disassemble or modify a card you risk being accused of damaging it during a warranty claim.  That includes EVGA.

    Ditto for cars and modifying them, even though by the letter of the law that supposedly doesn't void the warranty, if you show up with a modded car at the dealership they are typically going to give you all sorts of hassles with warranty.


    Meme.



     
    Yeah, I'm sure Nvidia is going to be totally chill with you flashing a 380w bios from one of their board partners on a founders card.  No problemo!  Not.
     
    I'm not going go into specifics, but I'm excessively capable of modifying one of these cards at the SMD level, then putting it back to stock so no one would be wiser.  Am I dumb enough to do that to my $1200 card?  Nope.  Would I expect warranty to be denied if I did that, even by EVGA?  Yes.
     
    I do not appreciate being accused of spreading false information, especially on a topic that is highly subjective.


    When did I ever mention flashing the bios? As long as you don't damage the card physically, waterblocks are absolutely fine, unless you get an Asus employee on a bad day.



    I very specifically mentioned flashing the bios to non-standard 380w (Galax) and (possibly?) voiding the warranty.  Re-read the original post that you quoted.  I would reasonably expect Nvidia to frown upon that, if you were to claim a damaged card.
     
    I would also not characterize using an aftermarket cooler as "totally fine".  If they can prove or even accuse that the modification created the fault, they may deny warranty.  They never said to mod it, break it, but as long as it's stock when we get it we'll cover it.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/10/16 14:54:23
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    Re: Questions on the FTW3 Ultra Overclocked RTX 2080 Ti 2019/10/16 20:50:19 (permalink)
    I wouldn't put Nvidia CS in the same basket with EVGA as I haven't heard much from that camp as I have with EVGA, including personal experience.  EVGA is a bit more lax than most companies, allowing you to change TIM, add WBs, etc while Nvidia might go against that.  I don't know and not 100% sure but most companies could easily place blame on the user on a manufacturer defect plus these higher BIOS are designed for custom PCBs with beefed up VRM, not to mention a chance of bricking the GPU.  I wouldn't recommend it on any of the reference PCBs let alone on anything above $500+ IMO.

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    Re: Questions on the FTW3 Ultra Overclocked RTX 2080 Ti 2019/10/24 12:49:22 (permalink)
    Not worth it at all IMO. No guarantee that FTW3 will boost or overclock better than FE, and might actually do worse. 
     
    And then there is that annoying clicking noise that many FTW3s produce at low fan speed (mine does too). 
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