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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/07 09:36:10 (permalink)
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There are 2 more Formula BOINC sprints this month, so probably want to avoid overlapping POTM with them.
 
  • 07/13/2017 23:00 (UTC) - 07/16/2017 22:59 (UTC) 
    Project to be determined
  • 07/27/2017 22:00 (UTC) - 07/30/2017 21:59 (UTC) 
    Project to be determined
 
I'm on vacation for a week later this month, but will crunch anything if I'm around and it's cool enough.


I'll toss this out there - 7/17,7/18,7/19 - or 18,19,20 to give everybody a chance to reconfigure their rigs. 7/17 is a Monday.
Just a suggestion -
 
Thanks planetclown - I knew there were other things this month!
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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/07 10:25:24 (permalink)
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planetclown
There are 2 more Formula BOINC sprints this month, so probably want to avoid overlapping POTM with them.
 
  • 07/13/2017 23:00 (UTC) - 07/16/2017 22:59 (UTC) 
    Project to be determined
  • 07/27/2017 22:00 (UTC) - 07/30/2017 21:59 (UTC) 
    Project to be determined
 
I'm on vacation for a week later this month, but will crunch anything if I'm around and it's cool enough.


I'll toss this out there - 7/17,7/18,7/19 - or 18,19,20 to give everybody a chance to reconfigure their rigs. 7/17 is a Monday.
Just a suggestion -
 
Thanks planetclown - I knew there were other things this month!
Opolis - could you be a little more laid back man - you know, laissez faire? jk


You Guy's are awesome,
either of those work Robby.
 
Can we just nail this down?? 17th to the 19th sounds the best bet at the moment.

 

 

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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/07 10:41:12 (permalink)
Sounds good to me.
I'll set it from the 17th to the 21st, 5 days like always and everyone can crunch 3, 4 or 5 days as they please.
 

 
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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/07 11:17:36 (permalink)
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Sounds good to me.
I'll set it from the 17th to the 21st, 5 days like always and everyone can crunch 3, 4 or 5 days as they please.
 


Much appreciated Bill, 
 
Now we need to work out some projects for the next couple of months rather than leaving it late like today, suggestions anyone??
anyone who has not run a POTM before??
 
This will be my 2nd, but anyone can step up and we will Crunch your favorite project..

 

 

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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/07 12:59:21 (permalink)
With the heat of Summer in full force, a short challenge as POTM?
How about for August 20-23rd we do the PG challenge?
It is 3 days  GCW-LLR  Solar Eclipse Challenge
 
EDIT:
Don't forget to start the POTM thread Steve, when ever you're ready.
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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/07 15:23:36 (permalink)
I'm onboard but agree with planetclown not to overlap the sprints. In fact add a day to the front of those dates for bunker fishing.
Let's do this thang!


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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/07 15:33:49 (permalink)
I'd like to do 5 days in October for Moo! Wrapper. I believe we could actually get into first place in that race. Yep I said first place. But don't want to poke the sleeping bears yet.


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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/07 19:52:19 (permalink)
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I'd like to do 5 days in October for Moo! Wrapper. I believe we could actually get into first place in that race. Yep I said first place. But don't want to poke the sleeping bears yet.

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Bill1024 -Sounds good to me.
I'll set it from the 17th to the 21st, 5 days like always and everyone can crunch 3, 4 or 5 days as they please.
 
Way to take the helm sir - it is on!
 
ps- Yodap - remind me of this a few days in advance via PM.
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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/07 20:13:15 (permalink)
OP updated.
September, November and December are open.
What to do, what to do.
 

 
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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/08 11:36:39 (permalink)
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With the heat of Summer in full force, a short challenge as POTM?
How about for August 20-23rd we do the PG challenge?
It is 3 days  GCW-LLR  Solar Eclipse Challenge
 
EDIT:
Don't forget to start the POTM thread Steve, when ever you're ready.


Bummer on the Dates August 20-23rd, will be Solar Viewing.

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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/17 00:32:19 (permalink)
Don't forget to start the POTM thread Steve, when ever you're ready.




Am ready and Crunching.. See POTM Thread.. Come one come all..

 

 

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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/29 16:30:12 (permalink)
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I'd like to do 5 days in October for Moo! Wrapper. I believe we could actually get into first place in that race. Yep I said first place. But don't want to poke the sleeping bears yet.


Remind me to bump a couple of folding rigs over to Moo for a week or so then so y'all have a challenge.
 
 9-)
 
 

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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/31 10:16:29 (permalink)
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I'd like to do 5 days in October for Moo! Wrapper. I believe we could actually get into first place in that race. Yep I said first place. But don't want to poke the sleeping bears yet.

A Great Idea for Our Team Project Of The Month (POTM)

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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/31 12:11:40 (permalink)
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I'd like to do 5 days in October for Moo! Wrapper. I believe we could actually get into first place in that race. Yep I said first place. But don't want to poke the sleeping bears yet.

A Great Idea for Our Team Project Of The Month (POTM)


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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/31 15:29:44 (permalink)
Moo Wrapper, aka the Distributed.Net RC5-72 project via BOINC, is traditionally one of the strongholds of AMD, though the recent price gouging on the RX series has brought the mid-upper Nvidia cards into direct competition on it at current price points. RX Vega might change that if their price points are low enough, Vega Frontier is THE highest performance GPU on this particular project at this time despite the relatively poor drivers available for it so far.
 
 Hashrate is directly proportional to the product of shader cores times core clock rate, bus bandwidth is tiny, memory speed DOES NOT MATTER to any noticeable degree as the data set + core of the execution code fit into the CACHE of CPUs going back at least to the Pentium/K5 days as well as into the cache on any semi-recent GPU design - it's possibly the ONLY project where an AMD iGPU is competative with some fairly recent discrete cards (abet lower-end ones). Even Intel iGPUs are sorta-decent at it, if you're not pushing the CPU cores on the processor at the same time.
 
 The difference between AMD and Nvidia is pretty close to zero, on cards with the same product of clock rate times shader cores.
 The traditional AMD dominance has been due to having more cores at close to same clock rate at a given price point, though Pascal has evened that up quite a bit so far RX Vega looks likely to revert it in favor of AMD again once the consumer Vega cards start shipping.
 
 The top current computer in Moo Wrapper uses a pair of Fury cards (I can't tell if they are Fury, FuryX, or Nano as all 3 identify the same nor is there any way to tell if/how far they are overclocked).
 My dual R9 290 machine (with an A10-7860k) is currently the 4'th ranked producer on Moo Wrapper and generates about 9 GigaKeys/sec (bit over 4G for each the R9 cards, bit over 600M for the A10, but I've got that machine set with an app_config.xml that runs 2 instances per card so the reported hashrates are half that per card), for some perspective on what it takes to achieve a high-end Moo Wrapper machine.
 A pair of RX 480 or 580 + an A10 should match the keyrate of my dual R9 machine with a MILD overclock, fewer cores but higher clock rate - at quite a bit less power consumption.
 As I recall from some testing I did at one time, a stock GTX 1070 will exceed 4 Gigakeys/sec, a stock 1080 will do more like 5.5 Gigakeys/sec.
 For comparison a stock FuryX or Nano should exceed 6, a stock 1080 ti should be in the 8-9 GigaKey/sec range, and a Vega Frontier Edition should be right about 10 Gigakeys/sec.
 On the low end, my HD 7750 cards (same core count and almost identical core clock to my A10 7860k/7890k iGPUs) also generate a bit over 600Megakeys/sec - despite having DDR5 vs the much slower DDR3 the A10s use.
 
 On the CPU side - pretty much don't bother, the best CPUs manage ballpark 20 Megakeys/sec per core AT MOST. Might be worth messing with if you have a server-type CPU with double-digit cores, though each core is going to be quite a bit less the total might add up to something noticeable.
 
 Feel free to toss questions at me - I've been a D.Net participant for almost 20 years, and a RC5-72 participant almost since it started.

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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/31 18:49:09 (permalink)
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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/07/31 20:38:01 (permalink)
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I'd like to do 5 days in October for Moo! Wrapper. I believe we could actually get into first place in that race. Yep I said first place. But don't want to poke the sleeping bears yet.


Remind me to bump a couple of folding rigs over to Moo for a week or so then so y'all have a challenge.
 
 9-)
 
 


Great, you'll join our team for a week in October. ;D




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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/08/01 10:52:05 (permalink)

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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/08/01 11:21:16 (permalink)
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Thanks QuintLeo - any help will be great - you seem to be the expert on Moo and card tech - I have all nvidia
 
I am trying to hit 200 million on Amicable but i may run Moo today just to stretch out my Moo muscles.
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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/08/02 00:50:26 (permalink)
I forget, does Moo use DP, is that why AMD cards do so well?
If so my GTX Titan 6gb should do very well with DP enabled.
 
Also, any dates in mind to do this POTM?

 
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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/08/02 02:25:07 (permalink)
Next POTM...
August: bill1024  August 20-23rd PG GCW-LLR Solar Eclipse Challenge.  Can crunch a 4th day, clean up if you want.

 
Anyone got suggestions for September... I have plenty, but someone else needs a turn..

 

 

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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/08/02 05:36:07 (permalink)
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Also, any dates in mind to do this POTM?


According to the first post in this thread, Moo is the October POTM. Specific dates to be determined.

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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/08/02 09:55:49 (permalink)
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I forget, does Moo use DP, is that why AMD cards do so well?
If so my GTX Titan 6gb should do very well with DP enabled.
 
Also, any dates in mind to do this POTM?


Nope, Tested faster with OC on the Titans with DP off.
MilkyWay@home is the only Project that I have tested DP with and works well.
I run 10 GPU Tasks GPU with 0.2 CPU and takes about 58% CPU Usage and 100% GPU Usage.
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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/08/02 12:18:23 (permalink)
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I forget, does Moo use DP, is that why AMD cards do so well?
If so my GTX Titan 6gb should do very well with DP enabled.
 
Also, any dates in mind to do this POTM?


Nope, Tested faster with OC on the Titans with DP off.
MilkyWay@home is the only Project that I have tested DP with and works well.
I run 10 GPU Tasks GPU with 0.2 CPU and takes about 58% CPU Usage and 100% GPU Usage.


Thanks Bill, the other DP that I can think of is PG genfer 20 and 21 sub projects.

 
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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/08/02 15:22:24 (permalink)
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I forget, does Moo use DP, is that why AMD cards do so well?
If so my GTX Titan 6gb should do very well with DP enabled.
 
Also, any dates in mind to do this POTM?


Nope, Tested faster with OC on the Titans with DP off.
MilkyWay@home is the only Project that I have tested DP with and works well.
I run 10 GPU Tasks GPU with 0.2 CPU and takes about 58% CPU Usage and 100% GPU Usage.


Thanks Bill, the other DP that I can think of is PG genfer 20 and 21 sub projects.


Cool I will have to run some PG Genfer 20/21 Tasks both are Very Long Talks.
Never have ran any PG GPU Tasks on my Titans that I can Recall with DP Enabled.

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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/08/04 13:14:58 (permalink)
Moo (RC5-72 DNet) is strictly integer operations - mostly rotates, adds, and "move the data into and out of memory" work.
 Current Pascal-based NVidia cards are comparable on raw keyrate, but their much higher "normal" pricing tended to make them have a much worse $/keyrate ratio prior to the "cryptocoin GPU shortage" and resulting gouge pricing on the high-end RX series cards.
 Only reason I have keyrates on the GTX 1070 and 1080 was curiosity - it doesn't take long to set up the actual DNet client that Moo "wraps" to test speeds with.
 I keep thinking I should do that sometime on my 1080ti based rig, but just haven't gotten around to it (yet).
 
Milkyway is largely FP64 (which is why most of the "top computers" in that project run the Tahiti chip AMD cards, they're only topped on FP64 performance by VERY VERY EXPEN$IVE workstation-specific cards, so you see a LOT of 7950/7970/R9 280/R9 280x cards used in that project.
 R9 380/380x were almost the ONLY AMD 3xx cards that weren't the same GPU as the 2xx varients - they were based on the chip used in the R9 285 instead IIRC (which was the LAST 2xx model released).
 
 The Hawaii cards (R9 290/290x/390/390x) are close on FP64 to the Tahiti cards, but use more power for a little less performance.

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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/08/04 13:27:59 (permalink)
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Moo (RC5-72 DNet) is strictly integer operations - mostly rotates, adds, and "move the data into and out of memory" work.
 Current Pascal-based NVidia cards are comparable on raw keyrate, but their much higher "normal" pricing tended to make them have a much worse $/keyrate ratio prior to the "cryptocoin GPU shortage" and resulting gouge pricing on the high-end RX series cards.
 Only reason I have keyrates on the GTX 1070 and 1080 was curiosity - it doesn't take long to set up the actual DNet client that Moo "wraps" to test speeds with.
 I keep thinking I should do that sometime on my 1080ti based rig, but just haven't gotten around to it (yet).
 
Milkyway is largely FP64 (which is why most of the "top computers" in that project run the Tahiti chip AMD cards, they're only topped on FP64 performance by VERY VERY EXPEN$IVE workstation-specific cards, so you see a LOT of 7950/7970/R9 280/R9 280x cards used in that project.
 R9 380/380x were almost the ONLY AMD 3xx cards that weren't the same GPU as the 2xx varients - they were based on the chip used in the R9 285 instead IIRC (which was the LAST 2xx model released).
 
 The Hawaii cards (R9 290/290x/390/390x) are close on FP64 to the Tahiti cards, but use more power for a little less performance.


Great info once again QuintLeo.
Please do, if you get some time to test the 1080ti's and their performance in comparison...would be much appreciated..
 
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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/08/05 00:53:00 (permalink)
Aorus GTX 1080ti wasn't impressive - 4.8 Mkeys/sec after filtering through ALL of the possible options and with a mild overclock - but that was on the CUDA client, for some reason the openCL client wasn't even identifying the card, and the openCL client USUALLY runs faster.
 
I'm pretty sure the numbers I have from the 1070 and 1080 were on the OpenCL client, and I was expecting a LOT more out of a 1080 ti given the much higher core count vs the slightly lower core clock.
 
 Odd part is that GPU-Z says OpenCL *IS* enabled on the GPU....
 
 

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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/08/09 07:12:34 (permalink)
Update - reminder that the previous numbers were running the DNet CUDA client.
 
Got drivers updated so they were WORKING on OpenCL and updated that machine to the 521 version from the 520 version - not sure if that was the fix or the drivers were as I forgot to test it right after the drivers update.
 
 Running 378.92 drivers, and Dnet OpenCL client 521, the Aorus was pushing about 9.5 Megakeys/sec (I also have a Gigabyte Windforce GTX1080 ti in that same machine, it was pulling a hair under 9).
 I didn't switch the block size on it though, and it was going through a 32 block workunit so fast I suspect it would have a somewhat faster total net keyrate if I upgraded the client to using "128" or "256" block workunits.
 For perspective, Moo Wrapper runs "64" block workunits for most of it's work, with an occasional smaller block - that's what the end of the work unit naming is about, the number of workunits and the total number of "standard Dnet RC5-72 blocks" in those workunits.
 
 THIS is more like what I was expecting out of the 1080 ti.
 
 The scary part - I expect the Vega RX 64 to be pull over 10 Megakeys/sec (the Frontier Edition should almost match that) and the Vega RX 56 to pull 9+, if they scale properly to core count and core clocks.
 
 Now if we can just talk the Master of Moo to update the client to 521 from 520....
 
 
 For perspective - my R9 290 cards pull around 4.5 Mkeys/sec (overclocked to 1100 core thanks to a BIOS mod by TheStilt), my RX 470 cards pull right around 4 depending on the overclock (hair under stock, hair over with a mild overclock on core).
 

I am no longer the friendly FAH competition - thank Vorsholk and his ABUSE of his Curecoin developer position for that.
 I am still big on MOOing though!
 
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Re: Do a project one week a month. 2017/08/09 08:05:34 (permalink)
Running 378.92 drivers, this is the best Driver ATM for any GTX 1080 Ti & Folding as Well the best driver for the 1080 Ti Cards.
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