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2018/09/28 15:59:40 (permalink)
Just got my EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC Gaming today and love it.  I went into Precision X1 and used the VF Curve Tuner tool.  It finished running but didn't give any message or details of what it did.
It looks like it raised my GPU clock to about 1900 and 7000Mhz memory is stock I think but I can't see anywhere exactly what the values are it changed it to.  Is there a doc or video or something that gives a bit more detail about what this VF Curve Tuner is doing?  Here's a screenshot with Shadow of the Tomb Raider running in a window so it max's the card.

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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/09/28 17:41:58 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby agentbb007 2018/09/28 18:27:57
After you click the scan button it will do its thing and you see where it says +43 to the left?  Thats what you increase your Core clock too.
 
If you havent already updated the bios, its stickied in this forum at the top.
 
Make sure you then turn the power up to 130 and the voltage to 100 then do the scan as the program does not do any of that and will only give you the core clock from the test.  The memory and everything else is auto.
 
PS The bios update allows you to set the power limit to 130, the stock bios doesnt go up that high.
 

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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/09/28 18:29:05 (permalink)
Awesome thanks so much for the info I'm going to do it now!
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/10/02 12:29:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby agentbb007 2018/10/03 10:34:00
0.2.9 BETA is up now

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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/10/03 10:34:42 (permalink)
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0.2.9 BETA is up now

Thanks just installed it now and am going to give the Framerate/Frametime OSD features a try.
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/10/04 09:05:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby agentbb007 2018/10/04 09:18:12
I got 138 score on the 2080 FE with the new version, but might be just lower temps or luck compared to the previous scan results which was 128. Anyway, the FE doesn't seem to want to go over 2100mhz core and 16000mhz memory.

My setting if it helps as a baseline or something:
memory: +1000
Power limit: 124% maxed out
That was enough for 11720 graphics score in TimeSpy
Manual overclock of +140 core, +1000 memory, voltage +3%, power limit: 124%, fan speed both fixed at 75%, gave another 100 points, sitting at 11831 graphics score.
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/10/06 06:51:17 (permalink)
Really stupid question. 
I've updated BIOS and Increased my Power to 130.
 
Do I press Scan, let it do its thing and its done? or dependant on what the score is do I then have to set the Clock at that?
How do I save the Overclock once the Scan is finished... The Numbers on the side seem to do sweet fa.
 
post edited by PhxViper - 2018/10/06 07:41:40
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/10/06 12:14:29 (permalink)
Scan first, when it passes, overclock the memory and max out power limit and temp limit. The higher power limit from the bios will only enable you to boost a bit higher than before, temps permitting the extra boost. You can also try a manual core overclock for a little more than what the scan score will be, it seems to be the highest point of clock increase on the curve or something.
To save a profile, you first have to apply it, then right click on a white number, if it turns purple, it's saved. Left click selects or loads it, right click saves/deletes it. The save button next to the apply button doesn't seem to do anything.
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/10/06 13:05:05 (permalink)
While trying to find Max stable OC, do not set your software to automatically load your setting on reboot
 
When you got too far with your OC & crash the machine ---> Those are Not the setting you want on reboot 

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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/10/09 16:48:24 (permalink)
EVGA 2080 Ti XC as well here (on waterblock).

I hit Scan and it just kept running indefinitely until my core hit 2160 and display driver crashed. Now what? And why after hitting scan does it take SO long to get up to 2Ghz and above?

I set my own VF curve but when I hit Test the card just jumps around under 1v for a while and then it’ll hit like 2085 at 1050 or above then go back down 1v. How is that helpful?

How do you change all the points after one to the same level instead of individually?

Why is the GUI SO SMALL. I had to use Magnifier to make it easy.

This software is so unintuitive.
 
Edit: here's a screenshot of the last scan I did. When it got to this point I just canceled it because last time I crashed at 2160.
 
What am I supposed to do with this? Believe that the card is actually running at 2145 @ 1013mV??? Huh???
 

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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/10/09 18:38:29 (permalink)
If you find Precision X1's OC Scanner confusing or unstable, you can always try MSI Afterburner's OC Scanner instead. They are both based on the same NVIDIA API. Unwinder, the developer of Afterburner, says that NVIDIA's OC Scanner API is the best OC scanner system that has ever existed ... because it actually works. So, if he thinks it works, maybe EVGA got something wrong when they implemented the API into their software. I don't know... I don't own a compatible card. Just an idea; take it or leave it.

Like usual, I would advise uninstalling Precision and rebooting prior to installing MSI Afterburner, just to be safe...r.
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/10/10 06:12:23 (permalink)
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If you find Precision X1's OC Scanner confusing or unstable, you can always try MSI Afterburner's OC Scanner instead. They are both based on the same NVIDIA API. Unwinder, the developer of Afterburner, says that NVIDIA's OC Scanner API is the best OC scanner system that has ever existed ... because it actually works. So, if he thinks it works, maybe EVGA got something wrong when they implemented the API into their software. I don't know... I don't own a compatible card. Just an idea; take it or leave it.

Like usual, I would advise uninstalling Precision and rebooting prior to installing MSI Afterburner, just to be safe...r.
https://www.guru3d.com/fi...ner-beta-download.html



After reading through various threads it seems clear: I'm supposed to hit scan and after a while it's supposed to give me the +X on the left, where X is the amount I should increase core. As I said though my scan just keeps going and showing crazy core clocks and then crashes. I know it's not because my card is somehow a horrible overclocker as I'm able to run benchmarks with an average of 2070-2100 and 8000 on memory and I'm on water so stay under 50 degrees.
 
Going to try OC scan in AfterBurner but I've already used the other features and having weird issues there too. First, I can't get the voltage slider to unlock. I used the same steps as for my 1080Ti - editing the text file in the profile folder and checking the box in settings - but it's grayed out.
 
Second, when I go to the voltage curve the points are all sitting at the very bottom, barely in view. If I raise them all to a normal level, with 1050mV hitting 2070, it tells me that I'm adding something like +1000 to the core. Makes no sense. I set various curves for my 1080Ti with AB no problems.
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/10/10 08:55:48 (permalink)
It sounds like you should perform step 2, here and then try again.

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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/11/27 11:02:02 (permalink)
how do you install the 2080Ti ftw3 bios update? i'm running X1 and searched the evga website to no avail, am i missing something?
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/11/27 15:18:23 (permalink)
What BIOS update? And what does that have to do with this thread?

This is the only BIOS update I am aware of, but it doesn't apply for your video card and it doesn't apply for this thread.
https://forums.evga.com/E...S-Update-m2858793.aspx
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/11/29 11:54:38 (permalink)
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What BIOS update? And what does that have to do with this thread?

This is the only BIOS update I am aware of, but it doesn't apply for your video card and it doesn't apply for this thread.
https://forums.evga.com/E...S-Update-m2858793.aspx



I pinned that thread to the Top of the 20 Series section
 
I agree - I'm not aware of a BIOS change for the FTW3
 
However -- Do Not use X1 older than 0.3.9 ---> as some FTW3 cards failed MCU update & required RMA
 
https://www.evga.com/precisionx1/
 

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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2018/12/31 13:22:27 (permalink)
So what's the difference between scan and test? From what I understand you max voltage and max power target then hit scan and it creates the auto clock curve for you, then you are done? Apply and save?
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2019/01/26 12:12:30 (permalink)
Need some help guys, (yes my first post and first EVGA GPU), This x1 software is giving me a headache, got the scan and test and core part down, test results said +106, obviously moved the core to 106, maxed out Power and temp, but since im new to this overclocking besides ram and a little cpu playing here and there, whats a safe General area for the memory slider? not a 2080 I have a 2060 rtx xc.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
p.s If I leave the precision app for too long, aka coming here to JUST type this, and go back to it.  I have to go to task manager and for close it manually because it will never open back up and the task manager says its still running. But will NOT open unless I clear the process! getting annoying. Had to stare at the screen during the scan because if I clicked off to multitask or check emails, it would close but the GPUSTRESSOR software would still be running as would precision but would never show back up.  Weird
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2019/01/31 08:48:28 (permalink)
Hi, I’ve noticed the same thing. You have to remember it’s still in beta and not all is well 😂. To be sure everything sticks I would put my score in manually. After running the scan it will give your +___ put that on the clock/ hit enter then apply. I have a FTW3 2080 and it gives me a +49 but I know I can go up to 90. Also the numbers move up in odd increments you might have to bump it up 10 instead of 5 to see a change in core clocks. Also if you can use the tuner to do a manual OC as well. The green dots correspond with voltage/mv and core clock Freq. the highest voltage dot I can click on is 1093/1094 and I can drag the green dot upwards to the Freq I’m trying to reach witch the highest is will run at is 2130@1094... 2145 I’ll see a crash.
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2019/02/01 07:38:20 (permalink)
I tried the VF Curve Tuner and it returned a value +116.  I added this 116 to my core clock and ran 3DMark.  My score is actually lower after the curve tuner did it's thing.  What did I do wrong?  Shouldn't my GPU score be higher after the OC is applied?
 
My 3DMark Firestrike score went from 27500 to 27000.
 
Am I not using the Curve Tuner correctly?  My card is a 2080ti FTW3 Hybrid. 

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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2019/02/01 07:52:38 (permalink)
@Velcade
 
The OC for different Software will vary - looks like too many errors at that OC in 3DMark
 
Or their could be some other variable like Stability of your PC, power temps

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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2019/02/01 08:01:42 (permalink)
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The OC for different Software will vary - looks like too many errors at that OC in 3DMark
 
Or their could be some other variable like Stability of your PC, power temps



Could be.  I still need to explore the card, just got it late afternoon yesterday.  The other thing that's strange is the card isn't recognized on 3DMark yet.  I'll play around with a few things and see what happens.  Temps and power delivery are fine.  Temps below 55'C and the system is powered by a PRIME Ultra Titanium 850W PSU.  Single GPU and an OC'd 8700k shouldn't be maxing that out.  I'll verify tonight.

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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2019/02/01 09:02:02 (permalink)
I’ve done more research on the curve tuner and you can just hit apply after you run the scan. I’ve had my card for almost month now and I’ve seen this software do a lot of odd things like chop off the bottom portion of the page to just crashing. It will get give you a good overclock across the entire range. I check it with heaven running in the background and it runs 2025-2040 with the tuner overclock. I can clock 2070 stable through manually overclock but I’m sure it’s not completely stable.
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2019/02/23 23:51:56 (permalink)
I've just tried out of curiousity...
Thest button click, I see the blue line running left-right...
And that's it for minutes.
I don't really see the clock rising or anything, the evga app didn't freeze, but...
 
How long is this test runs?
I can hit cancel, restart, same effect.
I don't think this does anything lol.
 
P.S.: I've just yesterday done an nvidia uninstall, stop internet, then pc reset, clean with ddu, start and install latest nvidia driver. Apart of Apex Legends I'm fine, no freezes nowadays on other games.
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2019/02/24 01:54:19 (permalink)
This OC application is so completely worthless. I feel scammed.
Why is there no documentation whatsoever? I spent 2 hours running tests and I still dont even know how to save settings, or anything else for that matter.
 
And what does "apply" actually do? does it apply it now, at boot or simply applies it to a profile? Why is this application so useless? why didnt anyone stop to think "hey, what i am making is utterly useless, maybe I should not do this".
Why why WHY!!!! I have never encountered an application so poorly explained and so lacking of any intuition.
WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS APPLICATION??????
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2019/02/24 02:21:38 (permalink)
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This OC application is so completely worthless. I feel scammed.
Why is there no documentation whatsoever? I spent 2 hours running tests and I still dont even know how to save settings, or anything else for that matter.
 
And what does "apply" actually do? does it apply it now, at boot or simply applies it to a profile? Why is this application so useless? why didnt anyone stop to think "hey, what i am making is utterly useless, maybe I should not do this".
Why why WHY!!!! I have never encountered an application so poorly explained and so lacking of any intuition.
WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS APPLICATION??????




Oh boy... Let's run through this shall we?
 
Scammed? It's a FREE download, you can't be scammed or conned by something that's free with zero advertisements slapped into said program, so calm down.
 
It's a basic beta program right now, I'm not sure why you're expecting a royal treatment from it, but I'll try and work through your post regardless. 2 hours running what tests? The curve tests? OC tests manually? Were you able to get any form of result? Judging by the remainder of your post (which I'll get to) I doubt it.
 
If you've ever OC'd a GPU, it's all very self explanatory, the 3 sections are memory, GPU and target, target can either be linked or not between power and temp, it's often suggested to link unless you have poor cooling in which unlink and drop the GPU temp slider down to 80C or so. However, for any form of overclocking, always push the power target to the max. Obviously this will increase your GPU temps.
 
GPU section, again, very self explanatory but I'll explain incase, don't bother adjusting voltage, leave that at '0'. As for the clock, generally you want to bump up in incraments and test, have the Heaven benchmark or similar running in the background and increase in increments of 10 until you start getting crashes, same goes for the memory however the memory you can go in increments of 100 but instead of crashes, you'll first see artefacts within your GPU stress testing tool (heaven, Furmark etc).
 
Apply will apply with immediate effect, you'll see this in the HWM (hardware monitor) tab, again, very self explanatory if you've ever OC'd a GPU. As for profiles, if you click on any of the numbers on the right and click save, it will save what ever configuration you've just set to that profile number. 
 
Ignore the VF Curve Tuner unless you're curious, anyone using an automated OC'ing function shouldn't dabble in overclocking at all in my opinion.
 
So, to summarise, it's not intuitive to the point it has a guided display on what to press when and why, it's just stripped of all the hand holding, if you're unable to navigate the most utter basics of a GPU overclocking tool, I'd suggest uninstalling it and leaving it be. Stop crying and whining on forums because you're unable to work out simple things and instead ask proportionate questions rather than rant making your self look like an idiot. Mkayyy?
 
If you're curious, I have a 'low' OC on my GPU right now, 8000 (+1000) memory, 2050 (+150) GPU at 130% power target. I'm running a EVGA 2080 ti XC Ultra. I've not put any time into pushing it further as this was done in about 15 minutes and it's more than I need. 
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2019/02/24 02:58:00 (permalink)
Hi, you will need a benchmark tool running to see any load put on the card. You should see the voltage and clock speeds fluctuate while the test is running because it’s testing clock speed “VS” temps/voltage and powerlimit to give you the highest stable overclock. Your card may be held back by one of the three. Keep in mind this does not mess with your memory what so ever! So you can increase that in 100 increments. I only go to +200 on that just for a little boost. In my testing along with other people I run the test before touching any of the overclocking sliders/powerlimit/voltage...any slider. Then! Only then....after the test is done increase powerlimit and voltage slider (do not touch the clock frequency slider) then you can run a benchmark tool and see the difference. First I would hit default and apply so you can compare default settings to your new curve (green balls). I’ve seen others say 20minutes for the test to complete but mine is done in 10mins maybe. FTW3 2080
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2019/02/24 06:28:39 (permalink)
freshage
Scammed? It's a FREE download, you can't be scammed or conned by something that's free with zero advertisements slapped into said program, so calm down.

I don't agree. if you give the consumer an expectation then it should be real. Not a maze to run through like a lab rat. But sure, it is free. Its just too bad there is no explanation given.
freshage
2 hours running what tests? The curve tests? OC tests manually? Were you able to get any form of result? Judging by the remainder of your post (which I'll get to) I doubt it.
 
I ran the OC test (twice) and tried to figure out what to do etc.. But from the other reply then it seems that I have to run a benchmark test WHILE running this tool.
I didn't know that that was the "idea" behind it.
The functionality and purpose of the tool is unclear to me. I am new and OC'ing but what I need is basic information about how this app works.
1. How do I save a configuration? Can I apply an OC at boot via this app? What is the purpose of this app? Is it to see what you can do but not actually overclock?
 
freshage
Apply will apply with immediate effect, you'll see this in the HWM (hardware monitor) tab, again, very self explanatory if you've ever OC'd a GPU. As for profiles, if you click on any of the numbers on the right and click save, it will save what ever configuration you've just set to that profile number. 
 
Okay , thx, That was not at all clear to me.
 
freshage
 Stop crying and whining on forums because you're unable to work out simple things and instead ask proportionate questions rather than rant making your self look like an idiot. Mkayyy?
 
Being frustrated i think it completely natural when you get no explanation of anything. And if it was for advanced overclockers, then that prerequisite should be made clear. I wouldn't have bothered installing it if there was some sort of explanation of any sort.
 
freshage
If you're curious, I have a 'low' OC on my GPU right now, 8000 (+1000) memory, 2050 (+150) GPU at 130% power target. I'm running a EVGA 2080 ti XC Ultra. I've not put any time into pushing it further as this was done in about 15 minutes and it's more than I need. 
 
Thx, but I cant use that setting. I'm using a 1070 TI.



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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2019/02/24 06:34:03 (permalink)
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Hi, you will need a benchmark tool running to see any load put on the card. You should see the voltage and clock speeds fluctuate while the test is running because it’s testing clock speed “VS” temps/voltage and powerlimit to give you the highest stable overclock. Your card may be held back by one of the three. Keep in mind this does not mess with your memory what so ever! So you can increase that in 100 increments. I only go to +200 on that just for a little boost. In my testing along with other people I run the test before touching any of the overclocking sliders/powerlimit/voltage...any slider. Then! Only then....after the test is done increase powerlimit and voltage slider (do not touch the clock frequency slider) then you can run a benchmark tool and see the difference. First I would hit default and apply so you can compare default settings to your new curve (green balls). I’ve seen others say 20minutes for the test to complete but mine is done in 10mins maybe. FTW3 2080

Thank you. At least you had some good points that I can use.
I hope there will be some kind if manual at a point in time because navigating around is just horrible.
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Re: Precision X1 VF Curve Tuner Overclock 2019/02/24 08:10:12 (permalink)
Also you don’t have to have a benchmark running but you need something to put a load on the card. You can use a game if you like as long as it’s putting a load on the card and if the settings for that game are not maxed or at least on high the card won’t have to work hard theirfor the clocks will be all over the place.
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