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PCIe Gen5 “12VHPWR” power connector to feature 150W, 300W, 450W and 600W settings

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2022/03/02 23:45:43 (permalink)
https://videocardz.com/newz/pcie-gen5-12vhpwr-power-connector-to-feature-150w-300w-450w-and-600w-settings
 
Officially going by a name of “12VHPWR” is the upcoming standard for PCIe Gen5 graphics cards. The data provided by Intel, who are responsible for defining the ATX specs, appears to suggest that the cable will support as many as four power settings.
 
According to the slides posted by leaker @momom_us, the cable will support up to 600W of power in its full configuration. Furthermore, 450W, 300W and 150W modes will be supported. The documents define the binary configuration of the Sense0 and Sense1 sideband signals. With both signals grounded, the GPU will power up with 375W of power and maximum sustained power of 600W. If those signals are open, the GPU will receive 100W initially, with a maximum of 150W during load.
 
The ATX 3.0 design confirms that this power connector will not be compatible with existing 6-pin and 8-pin connectors due to different contact spacing and larger pitch.
The 12VHPWR Auxiliary Power connector is designed to deliver up to 600 watts directly to a PCIe* Add-in Cards. This power connector is not compatible with the existing 2×3 or 2×4 auxiliary power connectors. The 12VHPWR connector power pins have a 3.0 mm spacing while the contacts in a 2×3 and 2×1 connector are on a larger 4.2 mm pitch. The 12VHPWR auxiliary power connector includes twelve large contacts to carry the power and four smaller contacts beneath carrying the sideband signals.
The connector performance requirements are as follows:
  • Power Pin Current Rating: (Excluding sideband contacts) 9.2 A per pin/position with a limit of a 30 °C T-Rise above ambient temperature conditions at =12 VDC with all twelve contacts energized. The connector body must display a label or embossed H+ character to indicate support of 9.2 A/pin or greater. Refer for the approximate positioning of the marker on the 12VHPWR Right Angle (R/A) PCB Header.
But this of course does not mean graphics cards equipped with 12+4-pin power connector will not work with adapters.
 
Multiple power supply manufacturers have already confirmed their first products equipped with the new standard. When it comes to the graphics cards though, NVIDIA’s flagship RTX 3090 Ti Founders Edition was supposed to be the first graphics card to feature this type of connector. However, since its introduction at CES 2022 in early January, NVIDIA has not provided any updates on a potential launch date for this model. It is also said that next-gen NVIDIA RTX 40 “Ada” graphics cards will all feature this new 12+4-pin power connector, however it is unclear if this means NVIDIA’s own reference models or custom designs as well.
 
Personally I think this will confuse some users. I think there should be one connector at 600 watts. 
 


 
 

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    Re: PCIe Gen5 “12VHPWR” power connector to feature 150W, 300W, 450W and 600W settings 2022/03/03 01:09:15 (permalink)
    That slew rate is insane.
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    Re: PCIe Gen5 “12VHPWR” power connector to feature 150W, 300W, 450W and 600W settings 2022/03/03 05:09:53 (permalink)
    If adapters work out, I won't start shopping for PSUs for a couple of years.
     
    I also agree that having multiple connectors may invite some problems.


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    Re: PCIe Gen5 “12VHPWR” power connector to feature 150W, 300W, 450W and 600W settings 2022/03/03 09:13:36 (permalink)
    why not just use a typical electrical socked instead???  
     
     https://ibb.co/0DbH6Df
     
    like heaters? simpler!! 
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    Re: PCIe Gen5 “12VHPWR” power connector to feature 150W, 300W, 450W and 600W settings 2022/03/03 09:58:15 (permalink)
    Miguell
    why not just use a typical electrical socked instead???  
     
     https://ibb.co/0DbH6Df
     
    like heaters? simpler!! 


    That’s exactly what they will do for the 4080.
    Spoiler:
    https://twitter.com/robey...98657654402519044?s=21
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    Re: PCIe Gen5 “12VHPWR” power connector to feature 150W, 300W, 450W and 600W settings 2022/03/03 10:45:17 (permalink)
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    why not just use a typical electrical socked instead???  
     
     https://ibb.co/0DbH6Df
     
    like heaters? simpler!! 


    That’s exactly what they will do for the 4080.
    Spoiler:
    https://twitter.com/robey...98657654402519044?s=21

    Lol, yeah right!
    (it's a joke)

    A simple plug like that works for high voltage. But at low voltage, two conductors that size wouldn't stand up to the increased amperage.

    Are you proposing that the GPU accepts high voltage and has its own switch mode power supply? Wouldn't that be bigger? Wouldn't that be redundant? Wouldn't that cost more?
    3 cons. What's the pro?
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2022/03/03 10:47:56

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    Re: PCIe Gen5 “12VHPWR” power connector to feature 150W, 300W, 450W and 600W settings 2022/03/03 11:20:10 (permalink)
    My Vega 64 Frontier Ed is typical of cards I use with dual 8-pin PCIe cables
     

      


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    Re: PCIe Gen5 “12VHPWR” power connector to feature 150W, 300W, 450W and 600W settings 2022/03/03 11:21:32 (permalink)
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    rzelek506
    Miguell
    why not just use a typical electrical socked instead???  
     
     https://ibb.co/0DbH6Df
     
    like heaters? simpler!! 


    That’s exactly what they will do for the 4080.
    Spoiler:
    https://twitter.com/robey...98657654402519044?s=21

    Lol, yeah right!
    (it's a joke)

    A simple plug like that works for high voltage. But at low voltage, two conductors that size wouldn't stand up to the increased amperage.

    Are you proposing that the GPU accepts high voltage and has its own switch mode power supply? Wouldn't that be bigger? Wouldn't that be redundant? Wouldn't that cost more?
    3 cons. What's the pro?


    Pros: More power and a greater chance of the cards melting! lol
    It’s a funny joke
    post edited by rzelek506 - 2022/03/03 11:25:02
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    Re: PCIe Gen5 “12VHPWR” power connector to feature 150W, 300W, 450W and 600W settings 2022/03/07 03:18:38 (permalink)
    rzelek506
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    why not just use a typical electrical socked instead???  
     
     https://ibb.co/0DbH6Df
     
    like heaters? simpler!! 


    That’s exactly what they will do for the 4080.
    Spoiler:
    https://twitter.com/robey...98657654402519044?s=21

    Lol, yeah right!
    (it's a joke)

    A simple plug like that works for high voltage. But at low voltage, two conductors that size wouldn't stand up to the increased amperage.

    Are you proposing that the GPU accepts high voltage and has its own switch mode power supply? Wouldn't that be bigger? Wouldn't that be redundant? Wouldn't that cost more?
    3 cons. What's the pro?


    Pros: More power and a greater chance of the cards melting! lol
    It’s a funny joke



     
    yeah it was a joke..
    but seriously... its getting out of hand

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    Re: PCIe Gen5 “12VHPWR” power connector to feature 150W, 300W, 450W and 600W settings 2022/03/29 15:03:14 (permalink)
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    Miguell
    why not just use a typical electrical socked instead???  
     
     https://ibb.co/0DbH6Df
     
    like heaters? simpler!! 


    That’s exactly what they will do for the 4080.
    Spoiler:
    https://twitter.com/robey...98657654402519044?s=21

    Lol, yeah right!
    (it's a joke)

    A simple plug like that works for high voltage. But at low voltage, two conductors that size wouldn't stand up to the increased amperage.

    Are you proposing that the GPU accepts high voltage and has its own switch mode power supply? Wouldn't that be bigger? Wouldn't that be redundant? Wouldn't that cost more?
    3 cons. What's the pro?


    Pros: More power and a greater chance of the cards melting! lol
    It’s a funny joke



    Can't wait to see the Kombustor meltdown posts. 

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