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GALAX RTX 3090 Ti HOF First Graphics Card with Dual 16-pin Connectors (1200W Input)

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Tuesday, March 29, 2022 5:31 PM (permalink)
https://www.techpowerup.com/293410/galax-rtx-3090-ti-hof-first-graphics-card-with-dual-16-pin-connectors-1200w-input-capability
 
The GeForce RTX 3090 Ti debuted the new ATX 16-pin power connector for graphics cards, which minimize the cable clutter in your case, while meeting the growing power demands of graphics cards as Moore's Law buckles. During our reviews of the RTX 3090 Ti, we noticed that a handful graphics card PCBs had provision for a second 16-pin connector (implying that the first one with a maximum of 600 W of power delivery is maxed out).

GALAX debuted the first graphics card with two 16-pin connectors, a theoretical power input capability of a whopping 1200 W. At first we thought this is an exercise in absurdity, until we took a close look at our numbers again. Currently, ATX 3.0 PSUs with 16-pin connectors are extremely rare, and so every NVIDIA board partner is required to include an NVIDIA-developed adapter that converts three 8-pin PCIe power connectors to one 16-pin. Three 8-pin connectors only add up to 450 W, whereas in our testing we noticed that some of the cards were peaking well beyond 450 W, despite using this adapter.
 
This is where GALAX's idea of a dual 16-pin connector begins to make sense. Two 16-pin connectors mean the inclusion of two cable adapters, for a total of six 8-pin inputs, and an input capability of 900 W when using 8-pin PCIe connectors. The GALAX HOF series targets the crème de la crème of the overclocking community, where a stable power delivery is crucial to achieve record-breaking OC feats.

As for the power limits, officially the GALAX RTX 3090 Ti HOF has a power limit of 480 W, but a special BIOS-based P-mode activates 516 W power limits (something way beyond the capability of three 8-pin connectors), and hence the decision to go with a pair of 16-pin connectors.

Wow, that is a lot of power. 
 


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    yaymz
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    Re: GALAX RTX 3090 Ti HOF First Graphics Card with Dual 16-pin Connectors (1200W Input) Tuesday, March 29, 2022 6:06 PM (permalink)
    This is very confusing...  the 12VHPWR provides up to 600w so doesn't that make the second 12VHPWR obsolete? 
     
    And if we're talking about using 8-pin adapters,   it could have just been a single 12VPWR adapter and standard 8-pin (three 8-pins + one 8-pin).  Seems like this will cause a lot of confusion.
     
    What am I missing here?  Seems like you will end up with unnecessary cables..

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    Re: GALAX RTX 3090 Ti HOF First Graphics Card with Dual 16-pin Connectors (1200W Input) Tuesday, March 29, 2022 6:09 PM (permalink)
    Maybe this card and the future lines can be judged by the revolutions per minute of your electric meter instead of frame per second.



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    Re: GALAX RTX 3090 Ti HOF First Graphics Card with Dual 16-pin Connectors (1200W Input) Tuesday, March 29, 2022 6:13 PM (permalink)
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    GALAX debuted the first graphics card with two 16-pin connectors, a theoretical power input capability of a whopping 1200 W. At first we thought this is an exercise in absurdity, until we took a close look at our numbers again. Currently, ATX 3.0 PSUs with 16-pin connectors are extremely rare, and so every NVIDIA board partner is required to include an NVIDIA-developed adapter that converts three 8-pin PCIe power connectors to one 16-pin. Three 8-pin connectors only add up to 450 W, whereas in our testing we noticed that some of the cards were peaking well beyond 450 W, despite using this adapter.
     
    As for the power limits, officially the GALAX RTX 3090 Ti HOF has a power limit of 480 W, but a special BIOS-based P-mode activates 516 W power limits (something way beyond the capability of three 8-pin connectors), and hence the decision to go with a pair of 16-pin connectors.
     

    yaymz
    This is very confusing...  the 12VHPWR provides up to 600w so doesn't that make the second 12VHPWR obsolete? 
     
    And if we're talking about using 8-pin adapters,   it could have just been a single 12VPWR adapter and standard 8-pin (three 8-pins + one 8-pin).  Seems like this will cause a lot of confusion.
     
    What am I missing here?  Seems like you will end up with unnecessary cables..




    The bolded wording is why.  This card draws quite a bit more power than other cards.  Since it goes over the 450W - 480W range, the second connector is necessary.



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    Re: GALAX RTX 3090 Ti HOF First Graphics Card with Dual 16-pin Connectors (1200W Input) Tuesday, March 29, 2022 6:13 PM (permalink)
    516w is more than 3 8 pins but not when you factor is the power from the 75w pcie slot. 150+150+150+75=525. EVGAs last 2 kingpin cards have been 520w cards with 3 8 pins. The inclusion of the 2nd 16 pin (also seen on the new 3090 Ti kingpin) has to be for XOC bioses.

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    Re: GALAX RTX 3090 Ti HOF First Graphics Card with Dual 16-pin Connectors (1200W Input) Tuesday, March 29, 2022 6:25 PM (permalink)
    tresnugget
    516w is more than 3 8 pins but not when you factor is the power from the 75w pcie slot. 150+150+150+75=525. EVGAs last 2 kingpin cards have been 520w cards with 3 8 pins. The inclusion of the 2nd 16 pin (also seen on the new 3090 Ti kingpin) has to be for XOC bioses.

    I would want more than a 5W buffer on a card that could substantially go over the wattage in my rig.  That’s a bit too close for my comfort.  These new power connectors are much safer and will not melt the PSU cable or PSU and, god forbid, start an electrical fire.



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    Re: GALAX RTX 3090 Ti HOF First Graphics Card with Dual 16-pin Connectors (1200W Input) Wednesday, March 30, 2022 2:19 AM (permalink)
    “Something way beyond the capability of three 8 pins”

    No. Just no. Please please please stop saying that. Capability and rating are two vastly different aspects.

    The rating of three 8 pins would be 450w, but it has been shown repeatedly that LN2 cooling can pull more than 1000w on three 8 pin cards, so 516w.. that is nowhere, even remotely close, the capability of three 8 pin connectors.

    So, please for the love of what ever deity you choose, stop saying this… it’s wrong. The cables are far more capable than they are rated for, which is why NVidia had two 6 pins, only a 150w rating, going to the 12 pin connector on the 3090 and below. Two of the pins on each connector were sense pins, and most likely unused, or they were wired to other cables, and still not used properly.
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    Re: GALAX RTX 3090 Ti HOF First Graphics Card with Dual 16-pin Connectors (1200W Input) Wednesday, March 30, 2022 3:31 AM (permalink)
    It depends on wire gauge, length and pins. Some combinations are actually limited close to 150 watts.
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    Re: GALAX RTX 3090 Ti HOF First Graphics Card with Dual 16-pin Connectors (1200W Input) Wednesday, March 30, 2022 3:41 AM (permalink)
    Michapolys
    It depends on wire gauge, length and pins. Some combinations are actually limited close to 150 watts.


    Anyone buying a 2000+ GPU shouldn’t be running low quality cables.
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    Re: GALAX RTX 3090 Ti HOF First Graphics Card with Dual 16-pin Connectors (1200W Input) Wednesday, March 30, 2022 3:45 AM (permalink)
    Tell that to PSU manufacturers.
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