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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/21 13:28:39 (permalink)
    I could hug you right now. :) I'll read this more in depth once I get my cooler installed next week.
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/21 14:39:40 (permalink)
    Very good "tutorial" !!

    Ask the mods for a sticky !
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/21 14:50:13 (permalink)
    I had been crawling through this forum from the earliest posts from last year.  I am going to begin my overclocking adventure and was gathering important information into a document.   Even with what I had grabbed I had a lot of confusion.
     
    I wish I had started at the top of the forum, as your guide answered almost all my questions!
     
    Agreed this is sticky material
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/21 15:22:31 (permalink)
    Thanks guys...I hope it helps those in need. Let me know if these settings work for ya_
     
    I previously had problems with the 4.0GHz overclock, as my temps were to high, but lowering the voltage helped. The temps are still a little high for my liking, but it is a stress test, so I feel comfortable using 4.0 for normal use.

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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/21 16:16:15 (permalink)
    3.2Ghz/1600Mhz was exactly the combo I was looking for. I can't wait to get my new cooler. Thanks again.
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/21 16:24:14 (permalink)
    you will want to add something about when to up those voltages.  What BSOD to watch for and things like that.  Other words all your going to have is a ton of people with your bios temp and not an idea as to where to start trouble shooting.  Shimano's giude will tell the answer to it, but the x58(where it's found) and the p55 bios is differeant and you'll have to find your way around. 

    Explained it great, but ditch the templetes and add the trouble shooting quide( maybe some screenshots of the bios and BSOD. ) Each system will OC differantly so the templets are just a sortcut to a headache.  Let them start from the bottom and learn their machine. 

    good job though, understood all of it.

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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/22 05:40:59 (permalink)
    Glad that I decided to overclock, but not for the reason most would think.  While using this guide I noticed abnormally high temperatures on my CPU.  Seems somehow I had managed to loosen one of the retaining springs on my fan.  Fixed this issue and temperatures immediately went back to normal so I could overclock.

    I was successful at getting a boot into windows with the first set of values (3.2 @ 1600Mhz memory) and ran through the 20 sets of LinX with no problem and just standard cooling.  Was running Prime95 I decided to tweak my new GTX 470 card a little at the same time with Precision and went just a little too far.  After the reboot, with the 470 back to stock settings, I could get to where I started windows 7, but it would lock up.  Even tried the memory at 1.65 volts but no luck.  Loading optimized defaults the system and windows works fine.

    I was using the standard 655 board with the A59 bios.  I am falling back to the A51 bios and will try again as I have read the newer bios might have problems with stability.
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/22 21:27:24 (permalink)
    The A51 seems to work better for most of us using 45nm processors. I'm not sure it's a good idea to be trying to oc the 470 while prime is running, don't know for sure, never tried it.

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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/23 14:13:26 (permalink)
    This must get stick!


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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 08:15:33 (permalink)
    Well I thought i would post some of my settings for reference:
    Stock 2.66
    i5 750
    P55 SLI
    Corsair xm3 1600
    Stock Vcore: 1.13
    Stock VTT   : 1.05
    Stock Dram : 1.50

    2.66 Ghz - 3.4 Ghz


    Stock Vcore: 1.13
    CPU VTT   : 1.10
    Stock Dram : 1.50


    3.6 Ghz
    Cpu: 180 x 20
    Vcore: 1.175
    Cpu Vtt: 1.20
    QPI: 4.2 GT/s
    Dimm: 1.65
    Ram 1440 2:8   
    9-9-9-24

    4.0 Ghz
    Cpu 200 x 20
    Vcore: 1.27
    Cpu Vtt 1.35
    QPI: 4.2 GT/s
    Dimm: 1.65


    I keep it at 3.6 due to the VTT voltage still being under Intel's max of 1.21. Mine seems to need much more VTT as i overclock than the op's. Which is a bummer .






     
     
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 09:34:25 (permalink)
    Hi jambisource, looked at your MODS RIGS...nice case and monitor. I'm thinking of upgrading my case...how do you like yours? Your VCore for your 3.6GHz looks great, to bad your VTT for your 4.0GHz is so high. Are you using 4GB or 8GB for memory...just curious. Remember many overclockers are using higher VTT voltages, and seem to be doing so without damage to their processors. In my opinion 4.0GHz is an extreme overclock, and to extreme overclock is to live on the edge. The biggest problem I see with high VTT voltages is the additional thermal stress placed on the processor. Extreme overclocking should include extreme measures to control thermals, and if that is done it should be possible to manage higher VTT voltages.
     
    [edit] I just saw your post on the Antec 900, and I've also had my eye on the 900-2, I definitly want max room for two full length GPU's.
    post edited by dennisburke - 2010/04/24 09:41:35

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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 10:09:08 (permalink)
    no BR? great tutorial OP


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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 10:18:02 (permalink)
    Yeah i have to update my MODS since getting my board back from RMA. My afternoon project is a new photoshoot :).

    4 gigs of ram right now till another $100 finds its way into my pocket.

    Yeah VTT is a curious little bastard with very few solid answers. Still wanna play with it a bit more to see if i can lower it. My pre-RMA board required slightly different voltages than my replacement and i've only redone my OC up to 3.8 with the new board and what was stable before is not now. The 4.0 i posted is what was stable on my first board. 

    I don't have any experience with the 900-2 but i do believe it is bigger and i would recommend that one over the original 900.

    I like the Coolermaster storm series. They utilize some plastic tabs which can be a bit annoying but the cases seem to utilize more space and airflow.




     
     
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 10:19:18 (permalink)
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    no BR? great tutorial OP


    BR??

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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 10:38:56 (permalink)
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    Yeah i have to update my MODS since getting my board back from RMA. My afternoon project is a new photoshoot :).

    4 gigs of ram right now till another $100 finds its way into my pocket.

    Yeah VTT is a curious little bastard with very few solid answers. Still wanna play with it a bit more to see if i can lower it. My pre-RMA board required slightly different voltages than my replacement and i've only redone my OC up to 3.8 with the new board and what was stable before is not now. The 4.0 i posted is what was stable on my first board. 

    I don't have any experience with the 900-2 but i do believe it is bigger and i would recommend that one over the original 900.

    I like the Coolermaster storm series. They utilize some plastic tabs which can be a bit annoying but the cases seem to utilize more space and airflow.


    Good luck with your new board. I'm in no hurry to upgrade my case, but when I upgrade to a new GPU (maybe the next generation GTX 470) I want to use my 260 for PhysX, and with my Centurion 5, with those two cards installed, I would only have room for one HD. I also need better air flow.
     
    Love your avatar photo, did you take that, if so_awesome...

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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 10:59:01 (permalink)
    Im with ya with the "Br?" question lol.

    Thanks! So far no d4 loop with this new board and with my settings. So if i can keep at least my 3.6 going without a d4 loop , EVGA will be redeemed in my book.

    Still need to get some TX-3 to replace the AS5 i have on my cpu right now but my temps at 3.6 are 28Idle - 51Load. I noticed a 5-8 temp drop on load when i used TX-3. 

    I did get 4.4 stable enough to get a benchmark but temps hit 84 on load. Not the worst but a bit out of my comfort zone.
    Cant seem to tickle 4.5 though. 

    Have an AMD buddy who is a hopeless fanatic and we have gotten into this silly Overclocking benchmark war since we both build new systems. Needless to say my i5 750 has handled his PIIx4 955 every step of the way.
    Funny thing is that he preaches AMD's affordability but i build my system cheaper than his .
    All in good fun!


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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 11:36:50 (permalink)
    Nice job on the artwork_keep up the good work.
     
    Below is a LinX test I did on one of my first attempts to hit 4.0. At that time I just took the average of what others were using for their 4.0 BIOS templates. Notice the Max temps. It was a good thing I was watching closely.
     
    4.0GHz LinX T...VTT 1

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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 11:43:10 (permalink)
    1.4 Vcore will do that alright!

    That is a good point to bring up about using others settings right off the bat.  A lot of people make the mistake of just rolling with someone else's settings and screwing up there components. Im glad you paid attention to your temps!



     
     
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 11:48:55 (permalink)
    Working on getting a stable 3.6 here.  It seems like I have to be a lot more aggressive with my voltages to get it stable then some here, which is a bummer.  At 1.275 Vcore and 1.20 CPU VTT.  Also, doesn't matter if my VDimm is 1.60 all the way to 1.65, even though my ram is rated 9/9/9/24 at 1.65 for 1600 MHZ, if I try to get to 1600 MHZ my system becomes EXTREMELY unstable, not sure what the issue is there, so for now I'm leaving it at 1440 MHZ (2:8) at 3.6 GHz.

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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 12:07:19 (permalink)
    What is your set up?



     
     
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 12:13:48 (permalink)
    I'd also like to make a note for anyone thinking about overclocking with these motherboards.  DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE AUTO SETTINGS!  When I first built my system, i5-750, using the 655 board, at stock everything and everything on auto, the system reports around a 1.23 Vcore and 1.1 VTT, and 1.5 Vdimm.  Totally fine.  But I upped to a modest 3.4 Ghz overclock, because I read that at this level you can leave all voltages alone and the system would still be stable.  Well, everything booted up, but on "Auto" it left my Vcore alone, still 1.23, but it shot my VTT up to 1.31 and my Vdimm up to 1.69!!!   WAY off spec!  I wonder why on earth they would allow Auto settings to actually push your settings out of spec?!  This seems very dangerous to me.  Could this be contributing to why d4 occurs?  Maybe we can't trust these boards with Auto for anything.
    Needless to say after that I make sure I control all the settings in BIOS, no matter what I'm doing with an overclock.

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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 12:18:31 (permalink)
    Yeah boo to auto!

    A 1.23 Stock Vcore seems a bit high to me. So it makes sense if your 3.6 oc is at 1.27.

    I think the auto get confused due to the turbo boost head room. 

    D4 for me and alot of people has been most likely attributed to auto setting for memory.



     
     
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 12:18:55 (permalink)
    jambisource

    What is your set up?





    4 GB Corsair RAM.  750 Watt Corsair PSU.  2X 5850 in Crossfire.  i5-750 on a EVGA 655 MB.  So far stable at 3.6 Ghz.  Manually set memory timings to 9/9/9/24 at 1.65 Vdimm.  Solid Prime95 for 12 hours so far so good.  Temps never get above 65 C.  Just can't get memory to 1600 Mhz.  At 1600 Mhz I get a hardware failure on 1 core after about 5 minutes running Prime.  

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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 12:21:05 (permalink)
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    Working on getting a stable 3.6 here.  It seems like I have to be a lot more aggressive with my voltages to get it stable then some here, which is a bummer.  At 1.275 Vcore and 1.20 CPU VTT.  Also, doesn't matter if my VDimm is 1.60 all the way to 1.65, even though my ram is rated 9/9/9/24 at 1.65 for 1600 MHZ, if I try to get to 1600 MHZ my system becomes EXTREMELY unstable, not sure what the issue is there, so for now I'm leaving it at 1440 MHZ (2:8) at 3.6 GHz.


    We need more information on your hardware.  Honestly 1.275v VCORE, 1.2v VTT, and 1.65v VDIMM is not that bad. Providing you're monitoring your core temps, increase your VCORE to see if that helps with stability.  Intel's max for VCORE is 1.55v, but that would be HOTT without very advanced cooling. It's not uncommon for people to be well into the 1.3v-1.4v VCORE for a stable 4.0GHz OC.
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 12:23:33 (permalink)
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    Yeah boo to auto!

    A 1.23 Stock Vcore seems a bit high to me. So it makes sense if your 3.6 oc is at 1.27.

    I think the auto get confused due to the turbo boost head room. 

    D4 for me and alot of people has been most likely attributed to auto setting for memory.


    Methinks he may have an i7 860. I think their stock VCORE is a little higher than the 1.15ish on our i5 750s. We just need some more detailed hardware info from him.
     
    I stand corrected. He does have an i5 750...
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 12:26:33 (permalink)
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    jambisource

    What is your set up?





    4 GB Corsair RAM.  750 Watt Corsair PSU.  2X 5850 in Crossfire.  i5-750 on a EVGA 655 MB.  So far stable at 3.6 Ghz.  Manually set memory timings to 9/9/9/24 at 1.65 Vdimm.  Solid Prime95 for 12 hours so far so good.  Temps never get above 65 C.  Just can't get memory to 1600 Mhz.  At 1600 Mhz I get a hardware failure on 1 core after about 5 minutes running Prime.  


    Link to your RAM specs? What BCLK and multi are you using to get 3.6GHz?
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 12:28:21 (permalink)
    rmmil978

    Working on getting a stable 3.6 here.  It seems like I have to be a lot more aggressive with my voltages to get it stable then some here, which is a bummer.  At 1.275 Vcore and 1.20 CPU VTT.  Also, doesn't matter if my VDimm is 1.60 all the way to 1.65, even though my ram is rated 9/9/9/24 at 1.65 for 1600 MHZ, if I try to get to 1600 MHZ my system becomes EXTREMELY unstable, not sure what the issue is there, so for now I'm leaving it at 1440 MHZ (2:8) at 3.6 GHz.

     
     
    No reason to get bummed dude, you just need to learn to work with what you have. Your voltages look good to me. 1.65V is the maximum rating for your memory, but that does not mean it needs to run at 1.65V. Have you tried setting your CPU Multiplier to 18, with the CPU Frequency set to 200MHz and the DRAM Frequency to 2:8? That setup should also give you a 3.6GHz overclock and also allow your memory to run at 1600MHz. As a matter of fact I'm going to test that right now, and while LinX is running I'll have a bit of lunch and get back to you. Also include your system rig info in your signature, that helps other know what your working with.


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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 12:32:28 (permalink)
    I agree , if 1600 is that important i would lower your multiplier and change your Freq. 


    [edit] or keep it at 1440 and see if you can lower your timings
    post edited by jambisource - 2010/04/24 12:35:43



     
     
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    Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES 2010/04/24 12:39:46 (permalink)
    Ha, it never even occurred to me to do that!  I'm running 180 Bclk at a x20 Multiplier to get 3.6 Ghz.  Does running 200 Blck at a x18 make it easier on your system to get to 1600 Mhz?  I guess I don't understand that part of overclocking.  1600 isn't extremely important I just wanted to get my memory to run at its rated speed.  The memory that I'm using is CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 XMS3 4 GB

    (Edit)  Okay, now I understand, if I change the Bclk and Multiplier I can keep a 2:8 ratio and still get 1600 Mhz.  Simple math at work.  Thanks for all the info guys!  
    post edited by rmmil978 - 2010/04/24 12:46:32

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