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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/05/02 23:17:18
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Well I followed your steps for the 3.2/1600 OC. I got the phantom boot issue, and things weren't functioning properly. I reset back to defaults and tried again. I tried the same frequencies only this time I left C-STATE disabled like the original BIOS had it. I set LinX to run 20 cycles, problem size roughly 30k, and memory use at roughly 7GB (max problem/memory allowed). Zero errors reported and temps never got above 56*C. Still need to run a test with Prime95, but I've never used it before so doing some reading first. Thanks again for your help Dennis. Let's hope this gets stickied.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/05/03 06:44:08
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sh1ft Well I followed your steps for the 3.2/1600 OC. I got the phantom boot issue, and things weren't functioning properly. I reset back to defaults and tried again. I tried the same frequencies only this time I left C-STATE disabled like the original BIOS had it. I set LinX to run 20 cycles, problem size roughly 30k, and memory use at roughly 7GB (max problem/memory allowed). Zero errors reported and temps never got above 56*C. Still need to run a test with Prime95, but I've never used it before so doing some reading first. Thanks again for your help Dennis. Let's hope this gets stickied. Overclocking for me is an ongoing learning process and I have come to understand things a little better of late. I believe your phantom boot issue is probably having your VTT set to low...you are running 8GB of memory, and I'm not sure what your timings are set at, so you may require a higher VTT. When you load optimum defaults, it will enable C-STATE. It is my understanding that for TurboMode to work properly, C-STATE must be enabled because the C6 function must be enabled for TurboMode to work properly, and C6 is in C-STATE. C-STATE should not be the cause of your booting issue. I would try setting your VTT to 1.20V for starters. It has recently been pointed out to me that the voltlage ratio between VDIMM and VTT should not exceed 0.40V, but I believe in our case that ratio is more like 0.45V, some have pointed out that 0.50V is the ratio, but again, it is probably dependent upon each processor. You can check out the conversation I've been having with raja1 over at the original thread.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/05/03 07:20:11
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Actually I correct myself on the VDIMM and VTT delta on Lynnfield - look carefully at the datasheet - the max VTT is given in relation to VSS only and does not mention the delta between VDIMM and VTT. As such the maximum VDIMM to VTT delta on these processors appears to be around 0.55V - which kinda fits with how things were when the had the max DC deltas stated on the Bloomfields (absolute sustainable delta was stipulated at 0.7V with max safe at 0.5V, this section of the white paper has since been updated with direct mention of the deltas removed. I have a hunch the new deltas are given in relation to stock VTT VID which falls around the 1.05V mark for Lynnfiled, while the Blooms were around 1.15V~1.20V). Had these values of changed drastically - Intel would have re-stipulated them.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/05/04 07:56:47
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Wow, thats a good collection of info there dburke, I agree with the belief that to modify something and still expect it to work you first need to know how it works in normal, unmodified operation. I see you have vdroop on, I'm going to try in on at 3.2 and run prime while I'm at work, and see if it keeps temps down a bit. I noticed that I have been running hotter since I turned vdroop off, and I don't know that 3.2 is far enough of an OC to need the extra boost. Overall, very nice guide, maybe you'll get a blue ribbon.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/05/04 20:00:23
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Thanks dude_It's still a work in progress, and I have some ideas for editing. I've been trying to wrap my head around the whole VDroop thing, but nobody has written a VDroop For Dummies guide yet. So, trying to read between the lines, it sounds like Intel introduced VDroop to enable their high performance chips to operate on low performance motherboards. EVGA states that VDroop improves overclocking stability, while others claim it can hurt stability. It seems if motherboards had gold plated power management curcuitry, along with NASA certified capacitors and PSU's, their would be no need for VDroop. Why do I have VDroop enabled? Because EVGA say's it's ok. Be interesting to hear your temperature results.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/05/04 20:04:55
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raja1 Actually I correct myself on the VDIMM and VTT delta on Lynnfield - look carefully at the datasheet - the max VTT is given in relation to VSS only and does not mention the delta between VDIMM and VTT. As such the maximum VDIMM to VTT delta on these processors appears to be around 0.55V - which kinda fits with how things were when the had the max DC deltas stated on the Bloomfields (absolute sustainable delta was stipulated at 0.7V with max safe at 0.5V, this section of the white paper has since been updated with direct mention of the deltas removed. I have a hunch the new deltas are given in relation to stock VTT VID which falls around the 1.05V mark for Lynnfiled, while the Blooms were around 1.15V~1.20V). Had these values of changed drastically - Intel would have re-stipulated them. Thanks for the update...good news.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/05/05 01:09:14
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/05/19 08:27:24
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WoW ! thank you for the great guide. This is well done and much appreciated, it should be made a sticky.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/05/31 01:31:33
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Dropped by to say thanks for this very useful guide! It worked for me for the most part. I have 4 GB Corsair XMS3 RAM at 1600 MHz so I figured it was the same as yours but I had to adjust some of the settings on it in order to finally get it to work. Thank you!!
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/07/20 15:20:02
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yo, thx a lot for that guide; working well for me! except SPEEDSTEP and turbo doesnt want to load... :/
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/07/20 16:59:20
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Speedstep and Turbo will work with bios default settings? Is that an Intel board?
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/07/21 08:03:12
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What do you mean doesn't want to load? You can turn it on? It should work just fine. Make sure you enable c-state tech, and try again.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/07/23 18:40:56
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I'd like to say thank you very much for this guide! I do have a question though. My ram is rated to run at 2000mhz.. i did what this guide said and it bumped it up to 1600mhz. I'm wondering what would it take to get it up to 2000mhz? I'd appreciate the feedback and thank you!
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/07/23 19:03:56
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With a BCLK of 200, set your RAM divider to 2:10 for 2000 mhz.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/07/23 22:27:02
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eddawgs13 I'd like to say thank you very much for this guide! I do have a question though. My ram is rated to run at 2000mhz.. i did what this guide said and it bumped it up to 1600mhz. I'm wondering what would it take to get it up to 2000mhz? I'd appreciate the feedback and thank you! What Sleepee says is correct, but chances are you may not want to run a 4.0GHz overclock, and if that's the case then you can try setting your CPU multiplier to 16. (16 x 200MHz = 3.2GHz) I've never run that low of a CPU multiplier, but I would think it's possible. By upping your CPU frequency your probably going to have to play around (ie: increase) your voltages.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/08/08 22:07:49
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can you update a link for LinX? unless the 887k file is correct.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/08/09 06:05:49
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d-rock can you update a link for LinX? unless the 887k file is correct. Do you have any information on a revised version?
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/08/11 17:21:47
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Hey I followed this guide to OC to around 3.3GHz and it was running fine for a little but then I played an HD video on youtube and about 2 minutes in the computer gave me that blue screen and made a wierd noise, so I had to shut down :/ I used the same volts you were using and everything. I dont know what happened.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/08/11 18:47:08
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your not supposed to use the exact same volts, not every component is the same. I'd "GUESS" that you may need to back off the voltage a little? I actually ran into the same problem and working on mine right now.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE I5-750 FOR DUMMIES _Revised
2010/08/19 21:56:36
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Hi I tried overclocking my system using this guide for the first time and everything booted fine at 3.4 GHz but I noticed while running Prime 95 that the icons near the clock on the bottom right of the screen on Windows 7 were missing . I followed the guide using the same Voltage's but with C-State Disabled and I'm wondering what I messed up on. I restarted and went back to default and all the icons loaded fine. Should I try having C-State Enabled? My Specs i5 750 @ 3.4 Ghz OC Windows 7 Ult 64-bit EVGA P55 FTW GSKILL 4 GB DDR @ 1600 mhz HAF 922 XFX 5850 WD 750gb Caviar Black Corsair 750W
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES
2010/08/26 04:48:25
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Just want to say thanks to dennisburke for making this guide, it has been really useful map for the beginning of my 'overclocking adventure'. I am working on getting to an as yet undetermined goal, but as of last night have got to bclk 150 with a VCore of 1.1625, VTT of 1.05 with turbo enabled (3.15/3.6 GHz), Ram at 1200 (2:8, 9,9,9,24. 1.5V) [when I brough the ram I did not intend to overclock but then caught the bug I guess] which is stable on LinX for 20 cycles with a max temp of 59C. I took the VCore to as low as it would go stable at stock settings before overclocking to achieve the greatest efficiency. When I get to this goal I will do more intensive stress testing. I just have a few observations and questions for those who know what they are talking about: 1. What the hell is QPi link? I have fixed it a 4.8 as i read that it would go above it at higher clock speeds, but what is it for and is 4.8 ok? 2. I think want the max efficiency out of the oc, so C states and Speed stepping appeals to me, and the article on Tom's is pretty interesting, and a bclk of 166 with turbo would give me 3.49/3.99 and let me run the ram at its nominal speed, but I may need too much VCore to make it possible in terms of temps (my case aint great, but is in the process of being modded). What I am wondering is if it is possible to' tame' the turbo function so it multiplies to say 22 on 1 or 2 cores. I have seen in Eleet that this can be done but I dont know if it is possible to make it a permanent feature (i.e in the BIOS). That way I could still get lower multipliers at a lower load and use less VCore but still get 3.8 ish on 1 core. 3. When stress testing is it possible to stress only one core to see how hot it runs in turbo mode? 4. Does anyone have any opions on turbo mode and oc in regards the sweet spot - should i go for a clock speed without it? I have read it may be 3.7 - 3.8 but would I still be able to have speed stepping and C states enabled at that speed. 5. Are 3D mark and PC mark vantage the best tools for benching? What I rekon I will do is make different profiles for the 2 types of oc depending on my mood... Thanks once again
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES
2010/08/26 12:03:55
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hi i have a I5 760, but when i get into bios, i couldnt enable speedstep, its grayed out and disabled, also i dont have turbo mode option in my bios, only C-state can anyone please explain this to me? where is turbo mode option and how i enable speedstep, i did successfully overclocked my cpu to 3.2G and my ram to 1600 with this guide, thx a lot!
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES
2010/08/26 14:56:58
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luoyx - have you cleared CMOS and enabled optimized defaults in the bios on the menu screen? that might sort it out.
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES
2010/08/26 15:03:47
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u mean after i updated my bios? actually i didnt, ill try that to clear CMOS, i just press the button right? then enable optimized defaults and overclock again?
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES
2010/08/26 15:06:00
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In regards my overclocking, I had something very weird happen... Tired to go from 150 bclk to 160 and kept getting 0.00xx0124 BSODs, so raised VCore from 1.1625 to 1.1825 and VTT from 1.05 to 1.10 (I assume this is the correct idea, although I keep getting BSODs at startup but I am sure I will sort it out). The weird thing was that I kept getting startup repair come up but could not then select 'start windows normally' as my keyboard did not work (happens at stock speeds too!) does anyone know why this may happen? Cos I cancelled it so many times as a result of all the BSODs, eventually it got stuck loading to windows constantly and at stock speeds too, so had to do a startup repair, which was a bummer. EDIT: Also got page fault BSODs (do i need to up the DIMM voltage?) and now every time it BSODs it wont load to windows unless I do a repair (which finds nothing). No BSOD and it is fine, very strange!
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Re:OVERCLOCKING THE i5-750 FOR DUMMIES
2010/08/26 15:08:06
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luoyx u mean after i updated my bios? actually i didnt, ill try that to clear CMOS, i just press the button right? then enable optimized defaults and overclock again? yeah press the button then enable defaults. Firstly check turbo is all there and stuff, then overclock. If it is working your volts may need changing to get it stable.
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