Looks interesting, but the grain of salt I'm gonna need to believe it is quite sizable.

 
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-3dmark-11-entries-spotted/ 

You didn't here, this news is from top, I was shocked when I hear...
AMD try to negotiate with EVGA about custom build their mid and high segment of graphic cards.
The biggest news is AMD Radeon Hydro Copper.  
Still is unknown how many old Radeon fans will change side instantly because of that...
But most famous graphic card manufacturer, specialized for custom and fabric overclocked version of graphic card will maybe offer one of best Radeon models on market. 
AMD promise huge voltage freedom for EVGA R9-490X 8GB Hydro Copper.
 

if that Titan is true I finally have a reason to upgrade from my original Titans.  

I don't even think to replace Windows 7 for now.
And I should bought TITAN Black and now easy to upgrade on new TITAN from Pascal architecture.
But I was stupid and I believed in fabric overclocked GTX780Ti and EVGA only show twice that people who suspect and condemned
stories about binned chips as lies and nothing else were right.
 

Vlada011
You didn't here, this news is from top, I was shocked when I hear...
AMD try to negotiate with EVGA about custom build their mid and high segment of graphic cards.
The biggest news is AMD Radeon Hydro Copper.  
Still is unknown how many old Radeon fans will change side instantly because of that...
But most famous graphic card manufacturer, specialized for custom and fabric overclocked version of graphic card will maybe offer one of best Radeon models on market. 
AMD promise huge voltage freedom for EVGA R9-490X 8GB Hydro Copper.
 

It is no surprise to me on why AMD approached EVGA on that. Look at what EVGA has to offer compared to other companies, not to mention their track record for their customer support. However, EVGA doesn't produce a single product which is backed by AMD. So, I see why AMD was trying to get into EVGA's wallet to support AMD. Hopefully they said no, because they  don't need them, and it's pretty clear that EVGA isn't hurting for business for not producing AMD. Plus, They have a great partnership with Nvidia.  
This doesn't even mention about Intel either. How would Intel react if they heard EVGA was going to make business deals with AMD?
 
When you start peddling into other business approaches and start micro managing multiple areas, your products can start dwindling.
 
I apologize if sounded like a fanboy.

stalinx20

Vlada011
You didn't here, this news is from top, I was shocked when I hear...
AMD try to negotiate with EVGA about custom build their mid and high segment of graphic cards.
The biggest news is AMD Radeon Hydro Copper.  
Still is unknown how many old Radeon fans will change side instantly because of that...
But most famous graphic card manufacturer, specialized for custom and fabric overclocked version of graphic card will maybe offer one of best Radeon models on market. 
AMD promise huge voltage freedom for EVGA R9-490X 8GB Hydro Copper.
 

It is no surprise to me on why AMD approached EVGA on that. Look at what EVGA has to offer compared to other companies, not to mention their track record for their customer support. However, EVGA doesn't produce a single product which is backed by AMD. So, I see why AMD was trying to get into EVGA's wallet to support AMD. Hopefully they said no, because they  don't need them, and it's pretty clear that EVGA isn't hurting for business for not producing AMD. Plus, They have a great partnership with Nvidia.  
This doesn't even mention about Intel either. How would Intel react if they heard EVGA was going to make business deals with AMD?
 
When you start peddling into other business approaches and start micro managing multiple areas, your products can start dwindling.
 
I apologize if sounded like a fanboy.

I dunno I was kinda upset when XFX went to only AMD, I think it would be great for companies to offer varieties. I mean look at EVGA now Power Supplies and Ram why not AMD Cards. I think it would be great for EVGA and AMD I am all about competition in the market place.

kingofsorrow
evga will mod the amd gpus with reduced clocks.. teehee

Probably... xexexe.... 
I think someone say once That will not happen. 
But who knows what future bring, Never Say Never.
But that not change nothing for me, I want to use NVIDIA Inspector and other advantages of GeForce with game mods and PhysX sometimes. I don't want to buy Radeon and than to install PhysX only to some game work even if not support PhysX.
But only sure way to back on Radeon is if NVIDIA continue to sabotage performance of 1 year old premium GeForce cards. 
Than I have no choice simply. Than other factors are in game not what I wish and what I like.
 

We will see when Pascal show up what will happen with GM200.
I will pay attention a lot on that.

Stefem

Vlada011
We will see when Pascal show up what will happen with GM200.
I will pay attention a lot on that.

Don't twist your argument you said that NVIDIA is sabotaging "1 year old premium GeForce cards"

I'm not quite sure how that's possible. My GTX 470s lasted me 5 years. It was only when the VRAM standard in applications increased is when I had to upgrade.

stalinx20

Stefem

Vlada011
We will see when Pascal show up what will happen with GM200.
I will pay attention a lot on that.

Don't twist your argument you said that NVIDIA is sabotaging "1 year old premium GeForce cards"

I'm not quite sure how that's possible. My GTX 470s lasted me 5 years. It was only when the VRAM standard in applications increased is when I had to upgrade.

Why, you don't know? NVIDIA's driver can even blown a PC next to the one where they are installed
 
 
 
 

stalinx20

Stefem

stalinx20

Stefem

Vlada011
We will see when Pascal show up what will happen with GM200.
I will pay attention a lot on that.

Don't twist your argument you said that NVIDIA is sabotaging "1 year old premium GeForce cards"

I'm not quite sure how that's possible. My GTX 470s lasted me 5 years. It was only when the VRAM standard in applications increased is when I had to upgrade.

Why, you don't know? NVIDIA's driver can even blown a PC next to the one where they are installed
 
 
 
 

I never said "I didn't know", and I was only basing off of my previous experiences, knowing that I was capable of holding onto my 470s for over 5 years and still able to play the games they had available with no problem. Other than that, I don't see how it's possible that Nvidia was intentionally "sabotaging" a driver's graphics card to make predecessor cards run poorly. I see this as a user error than anything else.  

By the way, I was sarcastic

Stefem

Vlada011
We will see when Pascal show up what will happen with GM200.
I will pay attention a lot on that.

Don't twist your argument you said that NVIDIA is sabotaging "1 year old premium GeForce cards"

Yes I said... People complain a lot about Kepler GK110 in new games...I didn't build topics about Kepler performance after launching of GTX970 and GTX980.
Every normal people know that Titan Black could everything as GM204 (small Maxwell) only maybe with more heat.
 
And Linus can pull me for... middle leg... And he and his sponsored words... 
I could understand everything, even Alien invasion but I can't expect from 5-6 famous reviews to explain to 200.000-300.000 people that NVIDIA intentionally didn't optimize performance of 10-12 months old cards for newer games only performance of new generation with similar power.
They will not lie, they will only not say some things and choose tests and what to present, Enough.
I mean they could say if want tomorrow to sell ice-cream, but if he want to present Pascal than need to play in rules. 
 
Why I say I will look performance of GM200 in DX12. Only because people beg on knees months to NVIDIA improve performance of all Keplers together with TITAN Black in new games as Witcher 3, Far Cry 4,.... He is launched last on Winter 2014. 2015 they present him weaker than card with 150W power consumption.
How much need GTX970... 150-160W... I don't know...
 

I am just going to say 6gb on a 960... The standard one has 2gb with a max of 4gb right now. If they use a 128bit bus like they have been, the 1060 won't properly utilize 6gb of VRAM, so therefore won't matter compared to a 970, 980 or 980ti.

Nvidia isn't stupid. People need to stop assuming they are going to cut their own head off with that move, to make a base grade gpu better than one of their two flagship.

Scarlet-Tech
I am just going to say 6gb on a 960... The standard one has 2gb with a max of 4gb right now. If they use a 128bit bus like they have been, the 1060 won't properly utilize 6gb of VRAM, so therefore won't matter compared to a 970, 980 or 980ti.

Nvidia isn't stupid. People need to stop assuming they are going to cut their own head off with that move, to make a base grade gpu better than one of their two flagship.

That is seriously a joke if they do that to a 1060. They're going to put a 6gb memory on it but choke the bit rate? that's a pure scam. I understand you were only speculating, but if they do that same idea... I really want to be there for the people who consider getting a 1060. That's just garbage, 6gb vram on a 128 bus...