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Nvidia NGX on 20x cards?

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2018/11/08 08:23:31 (permalink)
Are you guys installing this Nvidia NGX with your driver installs?
Just curious, I have been myself - I install the Driver, PhysX, C-Port (I use it), and this NGX.
 
From what I have read looks like it is a deep learning AI thing, way above my feeble mind,  but not sure any current games would utilize that?
Any advantage or disadvantage to having that part of the driver installed?
 
Thanks for any tips on this,

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    Re: Nvidia NGX on 20x cards? 2018/11/08 08:26:44 (permalink)
    its the downloader for DLSS data not already included with the driver.

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    Re: Nvidia NGX on 20x cards? 2018/11/08 10:57:32 (permalink)
    Pretty sure everyone is installing it as you aren't given the option to not install it.


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    Re: Nvidia NGX on 20x cards? 2018/11/08 11:56:51 (permalink)
    To answer to OP's post (sorry sometimes I forget people come for answers not rambling).
    Current Games don't utilize any of the RTX features.  You can disable NGX updates (not sure why you'd want to).
      -Open Task Scheduler, Goto: Task Scheduler (Local) > Task Scheduler Library > "NvNgxUpdateCheckDaily_GUID_HERE" > Right Click > "Disable"
     
    Sajin
    Pretty sure everyone is installing it as you aren't given the option to not install it.


    You can install (driver) packages manually by extracting the NV installer (using 7-zip) and either installing the INF's manually or by deleting the folders you don't need.
     
    Finally when you're done, you can go into \Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2 and delete any folder that has "Temp" in the name (I would verify the GUID doesn't exist in the registry first, just to be safe).
     
    You may also delete the following (the uninstaller/reinstaller doesn't need the files):
      1) Everything in "\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2\Display.Driver.GUIDHERE"         EXCEPT: DisplayDriver.NVI, DisplayDriver.NVX & DisplayDriverExt.dll
      2) Everything in "\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2\HDAudio.Driver.GUIDHERE"       EXCEPT: HDAudio.NVI, HDAudio.NVX, HDAudioExt.dll
      3) Everything in "\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2\PPC.GUIDHERE\"                      EXCEPT: USBC.NVI
      4) Everything in "\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2\NGXCore.GUIDHERE\"               EXCEPT: NGXCore.NVI NGXCoreExt.dll [Note: I did not test deleting this one as its new any may change]
      5) The Folder     "\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2\Display.PhysX.GUIDHERE\files\"
     
    BTW for Turing (Gaming) cards you need:
     • Display.Driver - Can be installed Manually via INF in folder
        [Graphics Driver and Control Panel: You can right click on nv_dispi.inf, Choose Install and Skip everything else IF you ran DDU beforehand.  But remember anything listed below won't work]
    ---
     • GFExperienceDon't delete the folder, WITHOUT the folder the installer will error out
        [You can Deselect this in the installer]
     • NVI2
        [Setup Wizard NEEDS this Folder for; Bitmap Graphics, Help Texts, Translations, NVNetworkService? and whatever else]
     • HDAudio - Can be installed Manually via INF in folder
        [Windows installs its Default HDA driver but it doesn't work.  If you want audio over display cables you need this]
     • NGXCore
        [Not needed but you won't receive any DLSS updates until the next driver revision and Other RTX feature may not work]
     • NvVAD - Can be installed Manually via INF in folder
        [Not required but I think this is NVIDIA's MIDI Wavetable interface?]
     • PhysXCan be downloaded from NVIDIA's site
        [Optional, OK to Delete but won't have PhysX Support]
     • PPC - Can be installed Manually via INF in folder
        [USB Type-C Policy Controller and Service]
     • EULA.txt
        [Setup Wants to Display the EULA and So it needs this text file]
     • setup.cfg
        [Contains package list and dependencies]
     • setup.exe
        [duh]
     
    One last thing:
    If you use DDU (or do a clean install) you can backup your NVCPL Settings by saving "\ProgramData\NVIDIA Corporation\Drs\*.*"
      1) After new drivers are installed stop "NVIDIA Display Container LS" in Services.msc
      2) Open \ProgramData\NVIDIA Corporation\Drs\
      3) Copy (DONT MOVE. It might change the ACL's) and overwrite the New files with the 5 files you backed up
      4) Reboot & Enjoy the NV Control Panel/Game settings back
    post edited by Quad5Ny - 2018/11/08 14:02:17
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    Re: Nvidia NGX on 20x cards? 2018/11/08 12:01:05 (permalink)
    Quad5Ny
    Sajin
    Pretty sure everyone is installing it as you aren't given the option to not install it.


    You can install (driver) packages manually by extracting the NV installer (using 7-zip) and either installing the INF's manually or by deleting the folders you don't need.
     
    Finally when you're done, you can go into \Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2 and delete any folder that has "Temp" in the name (I would verify the GUID doesn't exist in the registry first, just to be safe).
     
    You may also delete the following (the uninstaller/reinstaller doesn't need the files).
    Will edit in 20min with files to delete:
    1)
    2)
    3)
     
    For Turing (Gaming) cards you need:
     • Display.Driver - Can be installed Manually via INF in folder
        [Graphics Driver and Control Panel: You can right click on nv_dispi.inf, Choose Install and Skip everything else IF you ran DDU beforehand.  But remember anything listed below won't work]
    ---
     • GFExperienceDon't delete the folder, WITHOUT the folder the installer will error out
        [You can Deselect this in the installer]
     • NVI2
        [Setup Wizard NEEDS this Folder for; Bitmap Graphics, Help Texts, Translations, NVNetworkService? and whatever else]
     • HDAudio - Can be installed Manually via INF in folder
        [Windows installs its Default HDA driver but it doesn't work.  If you want audio over display cables you need this]
     • NvVAD - Can be installed Manually via INF in folder
        [Not required but I think this is NVIDIA MIDI Wavetable interface?]
     • PhysXCan be downloaded from NVIDIA's site
        [Optional, OK to Delete]
     • PPC - Can be installed Manually via INF in folder
        [USB Type-C Policy Controller and Service]
     • EULA.txt
        [Setup Wants to Display the EULA and So it needs this text file]
     • setup.cfg
        [Contains package list and dependencies]
     • setup.exe
        [duh]


    Of course you can do that, but most people aren't aware of it. 


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    Re: Nvidia NGX on 20x cards? 2018/11/08 13:32:50 (permalink)
    I just Delete all the NVIDIA Tasks after each driver update.
    And Disable NVIDIA Telemetry Under Services.
    post edited by bcavnaugh - 2018/11/08 13:35:20



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    Re: Nvidia NGX on 20x cards? 2018/11/08 13:33:28 (permalink)
    Ok much thanks guys!
     
    Pretty sure when I did my clean install of drivers after getting this 2080 Ti, it gave me an option to check that NGX. I always choose custom install and select what I want.  Guess I could be remembering wrong.
     
    I have no problem having it, was just curious about the benefits.

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    Re: Nvidia NGX on 20x cards? 2018/11/08 14:02:33 (permalink)
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    Re: Nvidia NGX on 20x cards? 2018/11/08 14:09:38 (permalink)



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