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2022/05/04 17:04:37 (permalink)
EVGA 850 T2 psu, Intel i9 12900K, 32G Gskill trid Z 6000 RAM, 2TB 980 Sam pro ssd, Fractal def7 case .
The case is still open, but everything works .
I will be adding a vid card, and DVD burner as well .  Mainly want to see if pictures post .
Are you supposed to have to right click on the pict. icon, and select "open in a new tab", or did I do it wrong ?
https://imgur.com/a/MxmSfjQ there's the pics.
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/04 18:23:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cotter32 2022/05/04 18:43:03
lookin good so far, keep gilling it up.
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/04 18:23:54 (permalink)

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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/04 18:47:28 (permalink)
How are the temps? I bet that Noctua is struggling to keep that 12900K in check.

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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/04 18:50:41 (permalink)
Thanks .  I see some wires to clean up already .  All the pro's stuff looks so good here that I was a little shy about posting mine .
The machine works better than it looks :)  Thanks also for posting my computer picture .  I'll work on that some more .
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/04 20:04:28 (permalink)
To tell the truth, that, and the money, is why I did not buy the KS .  Noctua says on their compat. chart
that the 12900K is supported, even a little OC is permitted .  I just installed Win 11, and chipset drivers last Sun,
( kudos to Microsoft and Gigabyte for that easy process ), so I don't have any software to properly load the CPU,
and I don't have a graphics card installed either .  Using intel integrated graphics on old 22" mon.  Not too bad .
But, I did run it for over 45 min. streaming vids on three browser tabs at once just now ( while I ate ) .
According to BIOS, it started out at 26C after about ten min., and ended at 26C .
The CPU socket steel back plate is only slightly hot to the touch .
The fans stayed on slow the whole time ... but, open case, no proper load, ect.
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/08 19:59:26 (permalink)
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How are the temps? I bet that Noctua is struggling to keep that 12900K in check.


Mr./ Chaos_21, I have downloaded, and ran CPUZ stress test for 20 min., and got the following:
CPU max. temps. 53-68C depending on core @ base freq. 4.9Ghz perf. cores, 3.7Ghz eco. cores .
The MB automatically overclocked the processor when I set the XMP profile to 6000 .
Seems to run fine that way though .
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/09 00:27:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cotter32 2022/05/14 18:33:55
You can use the IG and load / run Cinebench to test CPU temps...with my full large custom loop any cpu voltage north of 1.35v produces a lot of heat.
 
KS is a waste of money unless your planning on pushing clocks, better off to ditch the air cooler and get yourself a decent 360 AIO.
 
Nice work btw!

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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/09 00:38:06 (permalink)
Personally I prefer AIO cooling to air cooling, but the double fans should work satisfactorily. 

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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/09 19:05:35 (permalink)
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You can use the IG and load / run Cinebench to test CPU temps...with my full large custom loop any cpu voltage north of 1.35v produces a lot of heat.
 
KS is a waste of money unless your planning on pushing clocks, better off to ditch the air cooler and get yourself a decent 360 AIO.
 
Nice work btw!


Mr. rjbarker; I installed Cinebench R23 ( free from MS store ), and HWiNFO 64 ( free, I'm cheap ), and ran them together for ten minutes .  Here's what I got:
CPU package min. 23C ( idle ), max. 85C .  It ran 85 for a little while, then fans kicked up a little faster ( noise not too bad ), and it settled at 84C for the rest of the test .
Really makes the IG slug along, but it doesn't stall .  Voltage maxed at 1.308V Vcore .  Max watts 214 ( astonishing, and way over spec .  You must be pulling about 300W ) .
Looks like the processor got up to 5.2Ghz, turbo .  This thing just decides how fast it's going to go on its own .  It's not under my control :(
 
I agree about the KS at its current prices, but on the bright side its appearance has made the i9-12900K price come down a bit .  I hear you about the AIO,
and know liquid is better, but for now at least I'll stick with the blower :)   <----- paid for .
P.S. thanks, I neated it up a bit, don't want you guys laughing too hard !
P.S.S. pretty nice system you've got !
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/09 20:39:10 (permalink)
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Personally I prefer AIO cooling to air cooling, but the double fans should work satisfactorily. 


Yes, sir, AIO is definitely better .  I think the air cooler will work for me under normal to hard usage .
It's one of the biggest ones you can get .  In fact that is why I bought the wide computer case .
Right now I want to install the optical drive I ordered, and save my pennies for a nice Video card .
Maybe I'll find some gold bars laying around that I can trade for one :)
 
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Update .  Case clearance check .  Case is Fractal design 7 .  Cooler Noctua NH-D15 .  RAM Gskill TridentZ5 .
About 1/8" fan to RAM, and 3/4 of a match book fan to side of case .  We are go for optical drive insertion maneuvers .
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/14 18:55:56 (permalink)
Your temps are fine for R23….enjoy your system!!!!

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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/15 05:44:06 (permalink)
tight fit! that is a good place to keep your emergency matches. lots of room for a gpu.
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/24 19:38:03 (permalink)
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Your temps are fine for R23….enjoy your system!!!!

Glad to hear it, thanks for saying so .
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/24 19:56:18 (permalink)
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tight fit! that is a good place to keep your emergency matches. lots of room for a gpu.


Yeah, I thought they would stay dry there :)
Speaking of tight fits, here's one of my other computers .
It's an all EVGA machine based on an EVGA Z370 ClassK MB, 8086K CPU, EVGA 3080 vid card, and EVGA PSU .
This is the top view of the open GD08 horizontal case .  Besides the visible optical drive, there's also an HDD,
SATA SSD, two case fans, and lots of cable under that over-hang on the left .
It's all packed in there, but does stay cool .  I even put my printer on top .
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/24 20:22:01 (permalink)
Well, I've been playing computer mechanic, again .  Added an ASUS Blu-ray writer,. and two case fans .
Man, that optical drive is fast, and works great with just Win11 driver .  Now I have tunes .

I put cardboard baffling that I made from an empty snack box around the case fans to keep the air from
recirculating through the case bottom and front grill work .  The air will exit through the PSU shroud
right under the video card area, and push the warm air out from behind the mother board .

So now my new computer is made of expensive parts, and ... garbage :)
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/25 05:35:49 (permalink)
haha lays chip box, i guess you wanted the pink side up? jealous of the blu ray optical...
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/05/26 19:23:54 (permalink)
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haha lays chip box, i guess you wanted the pink side up? jealous of the blu ray optical...


Yeah, it's hideous, but no one will see it after I put the side panel on ;)  The OD wasn't super expensive, and came with screws, and basic burning software .  It can be found cheaper not bundled .
It's a normal ASUS BW-16D1HT .   According to some people, these guys sell a more expensive, bios modified one, that can play uhd movies right out of the box, but it has no warranty :(
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I also have an LG Super-multi Blu that works well on a Win10 Z370 computer .  It burns discs, and plays bluray movies using PowerDVD .  Those can be had even cheaper .
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/06/01 07:46:45 (permalink)
Nice Rig
 
Does the blocked bottom vents make a big difference in temps ?

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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/06/04 16:19:08 (permalink)
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Nice Rig
 
Does the blocked bottom vents make a big difference in temps ?


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Well, short answer, no difference at all .  I ran CINEBENCH R23 and HWiNFO64 as above, except that I put the right side case panel on this time ( the side behind the MB ) .
The case is divided into two areas by a PSU shroud .  I covered the PSU section, that has the two new fans in it, so that the air would go where I wanted it to go .
The rest of the case was open as before .  Got an EVGA 3090 FTW Ultra on order, and will close the case after install :)
The steady CPU temperature under load was 84C per both the "mother board", and the "CPU" HWiNFO64 hardware monitor readouts .
The Max CPU temp per the "MB" readout was 85C, and 87C per the "CPU" readout .  Almost exactly as before, not surprising given that both tests were run in an open case situation .
I wonder why the Max "mother board" CPU temp. and the Max "CPU" CPU temp. are different; are they two different sensors ?
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/06/12 16:02:22 (permalink)
Done ... for now .
The EVGA RTX 3090 ftw3 is installed, and working great :)

Other side with loose cables restrained .  No wires in the fans .

The final product .

 
Thermal tests:
Used Cinebench 23, and HWiNFO64 running together as above .
 
Case 1 .  Graphics card installed, case open as before .
              steady temp. 84 - 85C,  Max temp. 87C ... no difference .
Case 2.   With GPU card, case closed, with dust filters in, case door open .
              steady temp. 91 - 92C,  Max temp. 93C ... big jump up .
Case 3.   With GPU card, case closed, with dust filters in, case door closed .
              steady temp. 92 - 93C,  Max temp. 94 - 95C ... a little hotter yet .
Case 4.   With GPU card, case closed, with dust filters in, case door closed, case fans on manual full speed .
              steady temp. 89 - 91C,  Max temp. 92 - 93C ... acceptable 
              might have to open the case door, and crank up the fans for crazy stuff :)
 
edit; more tests with air filters out, fans back on "normal" .
 
Case 5.   With GPU card, case closed, with front dust filter out, case door closed, case fans on normal .
              steady temp. 89 - 90C,  Max temp. 90 - 91C ... better
Case 6.   With GPU card, case closed, with front dust filter out, case door open, case fans on normal .
              steady temp. 86 - 87C,  Max temp. 88C ... better still
Case 7.   With GPU card, case closed, with front and bottom dust filters out, case door closed, case fans on normal .
              steady temp. 89 - 90C,  Max temp. 89 - 90C ... up a bit
Case 8.   With GPU card, case closed, with front and bottom dust filters out, case door open, case fans on normal .
              steady temp. 86 - 87C,  Max temp. 87 - 88C ...   Almost same as open case .
              Apparently the front filter and door make the most difference .
              Might have to open the case door, take out the filters, and crank up the fans for the craziest stuff :)
 
No thermal throttling reported on any run .  I'm pretty happy with that .
 
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and MB beep speaker .  Win11 .
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/06/12 23:36:25 (permalink)
Good looking build so congrats for that. 

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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/06/14 17:59:51 (permalink)
Thanks, rjohnson11 .  I actually always liked the metal box look .
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2022/06/22 00:26:29 (permalink)
 
Looks nice.

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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2023/07/24 18:26:32 (permalink)
Well, I just had to get the new EVGA 1000G XC PCIe 5.0 ready, ATX 3.0 compliant power supply, and some new, bigger, quieter NOCTUA
140mm fans ( 5 ) .  While I was at it I eliminated one PMW sensor wire, two SATA power cables, two fan LED control cables,
and neated up the rest .  Then some testing :)
 
Three of the new fans from the left side below .

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Two 140mm new fans replacing two 120mm old fans, and new PSU viewed from right side below .

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Cine bench R23 10 min. thermal throttle tests, still 88C with case door open fans on "normal" with XMP profile on .
Down to 85C with fans @ 100% .  Down to 82-84C with XMP profile off .  No thermal throttling .  Using 214 watts
with XMP on, or off .  Temps. and watts per HWinfo64 .  See Cinebench results below .

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Gravity Mark @ 200,000 asteroids with full GPU fans below .

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Gravity Mark @ 4,000,000 asteroids with full GPU fans below .  Render option: Ray Tracing .  GPU buster 

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Time Spy Extreme @ 2K resolution .

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Time Spy Extreme @ 4K resolution .  Valid score, and better than 80% of all submitted :)

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Yeah, I like this new EVGA PSU .  The air coming out of the back didn't get more than warm the whole time ( ECO mode off ),
and the NOCTUA fans are very quiet, not bad even at full speed .  Oh, btw, 422 watts used by the GPU during Gravity Mark bench .
P.S. I ran the stand alone 3DMark with no Steam client on this machine  ran fine w/o Steam .
P.P.S.  Playing around with Time Spy Extreme some more with RBAR on, and PX1 power slider on full, the 3090 used up to 490 watts,
but still did not over heat :) ... unfortunately it did not raise my score .
 
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and MB beep speaker .  Win11 pro .
 
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2023/08/20 19:57:25 (permalink)
For the finishing touch on this machine, I added a Gigabyte 1 tb NVMe SSD PCIE gen3 add-in card .
This drive offers ease of installation ( in my case ), and high speed, about 6 times faster than SATA3
connected solid state drives .  I installed mine in the bottom PCIe gen3 X4 slot as seen below .
From this slot it communicates thru the chipset DMI bridge .
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It works great after using Windows disc management to partition and format the new drive .
Now the computer has 3 tb total storage .  Plenty for my meager needs .
I got the thing NOS from an eBAY seller in Israel .  Delivery was much faster than from Asia .
 
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(5) 140mm NF-A14 case fans, and MB beep speaker .  Win11 pro .
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2023/11/27 21:35:55 (permalink)
CPU upgrade .
I have obtained and installed the Intel i9-14900K .  A significant upgrade from my i9-12900K .
To support the 14900K cooling requirements an EVGA 280mm CLC AIO was also installed
replacing the Noctua D15 .  The results are pretty much as donta1979 described .  The processor,
even at default MB settings, tries to overclock itself most of the time in Windows performance mode,
and some of the time in Windows normal power mode .  It gets hot under heavy load, on purpose !
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Intel® Thermal Velocity Boost (Intel® TVB) is a feature
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Intel® Turbo Boost Technology frequencies based on
how much the processor is operating below its maximum
temperature and whether turbo power budget is available.
The frequency gain and duration is dependent on the workload,
capabilities of the processor and the processor cooling solution.
 
Here's what the core clocks look like under a light load:
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See in the upper right two P-cores are running at 6 ghz continuously, and six at 5.7 ghz .  All E-cores 4.4 ghz .
This is with out Intel XTU, or anything but the processor and MB .  CPU package 30c .
The temperature is very spiky .  The temp. spikes and CPU hyperactivity can be calmed down by disabling
hyperthreading in BIOS .  I don't really need hyperthreading with a 24 core processor anyways .
Under heavy load it was a little scary at first because this CPU will operate bumping up against the
thermal throttling limits the whole time .  But it was meant to operate like that, theorhetically 
Below is the i9-14900K planted in the motherboard .
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I also removed the plastic adornments from my Gskill rams to facilitate ram cooling .
Next is the EVGA CLC AIO mounted in the case on top of the two Noctua A14 case fans .
The cooler does a good job, but for any serious overclocking of the 14900K, a bigger one will be needed .
However, I did manage to beat the Cinebench R23 reference processor with it, by a little bit :)
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See my Cinebench R23 score and scarry temps. below .  I beat the 14900K ref. processor on try three with
XMP1 enabled ( 6000 ), and intergrated graphics disabled .  The marvelous Gskill ram pulled me over the line !
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Temperature range 89c - 102c, power consumption 349.9 watts .  Terrifying considering all that current has to run through tiny pins under the CPU .
Score 39160, multithread, hyperthreading on .  I am excited to try Timespy Extreme .  I'm sure the CPU score will improve,
but I'm curious to see if the graphics score will be affected .  Bye for now, and happy computing to all .
 
Too The Moon !
 
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Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite AX MB, Fractal define7 case, ASUS BW16D-1HT Blu-ray burner, EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra gpu, EVGA 280 CLC cpu cooler,
(5) 140mm NF-A14 case fans, and MB beep speaker .  Win11 pro .
 
 
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2023/11/28 05:46:47 (permalink)
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2023/11/28 10:59:08 (permalink)
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CPU upgrade .
I have obtained and installed the Intel i9-14900K .  A significant upgrade from my i9-12900K .
To support the 14900K cooling requirements an EVGA 280mm CLC AIO was also installed
replacing the Noctua D15 .  The results are pretty much as donta1979 described .  The processor,
even at default MB settings, tries to overclock itself most of the time in Windows performance mode,
and some of the time in Windows normal power mode .  It gets hot under heavy load, on purpose !
Intel says;
 
Intel® Thermal Velocity Boost
Intel® Thermal Velocity Boost (Intel® TVB) is a feature
that opportunistically and automatically increases
clock frequency above single-core and multi-core
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology frequencies based on
how much the processor is operating below its maximum
temperature and whether turbo power budget is available.
The frequency gain and duration is dependent on the workload,
capabilities of the processor and the processor cooling solution.
 
Here's what the core clocks look like under a light load:
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See in the upper right two P-cores are running at 6 ghz continuously, and six at 5.7 ghz .  All E-cores 4.4 ghz .
This is with out Intel XTU, or anything but the processor and MB .  CPU package 30c .
The temperature is very spiky .  The temp. spikes and CPU hyperactivity can be calmed down by disabling
hyperthreading in BIOS .  I don't really need hyperthreading with a 24 core processor anyways .
Under heavy load it was a little scary at first because this CPU will operate bumping up against the
thermal throttling limits the whole time .  But it was meant to operate like that, theorhetically 
Below is the i9-14900K planted in the motherboard .
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I also removed the plastic adornments from my Gskill rams to facilitate ram cooling .
Next is the EVGA CLC AIO mounted in the case on top of the two Noctua A14 case fans .
The cooler does a good job, but for any serious overclocking of the 14900K, a bigger one will be needed .
However, I did manage to beat the Cinebench R23 reference processor with it, by a little bit :)
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See my Cinebench R23 score and scarry temps. below .  I beat the 14900K ref. processor on try three with
XMP1 enabled ( 6000 ), and intergrated graphics disabled .  The marvelous Gskill ram pulled me over the line !
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Temperature range 89c - 102c, power consumption 349.9 watts .  Terrifying considering all that current has to run through tiny pins under the CPU .
Score 39160, multithread, hyperthreading on .  I am excited to try Timespy Extreme .  I'm sure the CPU score will improve,
but I'm curious to see if the graphics score will be affected .  Bye for now, and happy computing to all .
 
Too The Moon !
 
EVGA 1000G XC psu, Intel i9 14900K cpu, 32G Gskill Trident Z 6000 ddr5 RAM, 2TB 980 Samsung pro M.2 NVMe ssd, Gigabyte 1tb NVMe PCIe AIC ssd,
Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite AX MB, Fractal define7 case, ASUS BW16D-1HT Blu-ray burner, EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra gpu, EVGA 280 CLC cpu cooler,
(5) 140mm NF-A14 case fans, and MB beep speaker .  Win11 pro .

 

Nice, but your r23 score seems a little off. With my 13900k at stock settings on my z690 dark board with 5600 ram I score 41000.
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Re: New Computer with EVGA 850T2 2023/11/28 19:14:42 (permalink)
Thanks, Cool GTX .  Unfortunately I don't seem to be
getting any better at photography .  Oh, well .
 
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