Horatio Nullbuilt
sorry my english is a bit crappy sometimes lol - you ment with overhead overheat or do overhead means its like overkill for regular use ? im fine with overkilling i bit here.
but lets say im playing a game and im cranking the res and settings way up there, trying to make the game as good looking as possible, and therefore also have to overclocking the card, then the kingpin would win big over FTW3 ? right ? 

bp7178
 
If you don't benchmark or have a enthusiast interest in the KPE, the FTW3 is a much better buy. There's no difference in games between the two and the FTW3 is $300 cheaper. 
 

Horatio Nullbuilt
omg ... i dunno what to do anymore..  

DeadlyMercury

Horatio Nullbuilt
sorry my english is a bit crappy sometimes lol - you ment with overhead overheat or do overhead means its like overkill for regular use ? im fine with overkilling a bit here.
but lets say im playing a game and im cranking the res and settings way up there, trying to make the game as good looking as possible, and therefore also have to overclocking the card, then the kingpin would win big over FTW3 ? right ? 

Overkill :)
 
I am not sure if kingpin will be significantly faster than ftw3 in regular usage. It is created for benchmarking records and ln2, but both ftw3 and kingpin not limited by powerlimit (it is huge - 373w for ftw3 and 520 for kingping while I am getting about 340-350w on my card), so they both working on maximum voltage and OC is depends on silicon lottery. 

DeadlyMercury
That air would not be hot because it goes through radiator fast enough, so temp will rise maybe 2-3C.
 
But if you want to mount radiator in front - you need push-pull configuration, because radiator is great obstruction for air flow and will reduce your intake. And push-pull is thick configuration, you need 80mm clearance from front panel to your motherboard or something near it.
Also you need to place radiator higher than gpu to make sure you don't have air in pump. And also it is better to have similar fans on radiator, so if you want to use push-pull configuration - it is better to buy 4 fans, not 2.
 
Placing radiator on top is a bit better in terms of air bubbles and also you don't need push-pull because it is good to have positive pressure inside case when intake is greater than exhaust. But you need at least 50mm clearance for push or pull configuration that also could be trouble.
So question here is not where is optimum place for radiator but where you can actually fit it, does your case have enough clearance for it on top or in front.
 
Your case specs saying that rad clearance is 30mm for top and 60mm for front mounts. But does this clearance include fans or not? No idea.
If it does - than you can't really place radiator on top and can fit push or pull configuration in front.
If it doesn't - you can fit push or pull configuration on top and push-pull in front. You need to check how much space you have in your case.
 
PS AFAIK kingpin and ftw3 hybrid uses same pump, so maybe kingpin pump noisy too, but there is solution for that anyway.

Horatio Nullbuilt
(edit for some reasom my post get deleted sometimes when i edit em.. strange)
Thanks ! hmm... so what im gonna do now is buying some extra noctura fans just to be sure i have enough for whatever configuration im going with, and if i have a some left over when im done i sell em or try to se if they can replace some of the other fans in the case.
 
I was thinking about going with the some of the Noctura industrial - ive heard they do a great job and they are black so it would kinda fit my cases look.
I know im asking alot of new questions all of the time but if you guys can recmmend any good noctura fans out there in 120mm then i would be glad to hear you out. I dont care if they are noisy tbh, my current 980ti is always blasting on full when gaming and im used to it, so what im saying is - dont care if they are loud as long they do a great job.
 
EDIT would it be stupid to buy 3-4 of the  Noctua industrialPPC NF-F12 with the 750 - 3000 rpm and not the  450 - 2000 rpm ? would  
the 450 has 29 db in noise and the 750 has 43 ? i assume they mean when they are goin at maximum and not just running idle ? 

dwexpress

Horatio Nullbuilt
(edit for some reasom my post get deleted sometimes when i edit em.. strange)
Thanks ! hmm... so what im gonna do now is buying some extra noctura fans just to be sure i have enough for whatever configuration im going with, and if i have a some left over when im done i sell em or try to se if they can replace some of the other fans in the case.
 
I was thinking about going with the some of the Noctura industrial - ive heard they do a great job and they are black so it would kinda fit my cases look.
I know im asking alot of new questions all of the time but if you guys can recmmend any good noctura fans out there in 120mm then i would be glad to hear you out. I dont care if they are noisy tbh, my current 980ti is always blasting on full when gaming and im used to it, so what im saying is - dont care if they are loud as long they do a great job.
 
EDIT would it be stupid to buy 3-4 of the  Noctua industrialPPC NF-F12 with the 750 - 3000 rpm and not the  450 - 2000 rpm ? would  
the 450 has 29 db in noise and the 750 has 43 ? i assume they mean when they are goin at maximum and not just running idle ? 

I use the 3000rpm fans and love them, i would rather have plenty of fan and turn it down if needed instead of have a fan that i wish would speed up and cool better. Some people don't like fan noise but when im gaming i use a high dollar headset anyway so i can't hear them, when i'm not gaming i turn them down to 50% and cant hear them anyway without a headset. As far as push/pull the air movement with the 3000rpm fans is enough that push or pull will work if needed and not push/pull combined if there is not enough room. My 7980xe is running 5.0GHz on all cores and a 360mm radiator with 3 of the noctua fans in push is all i need to keep it cooled.