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2019/09/08 15:20:41 (permalink)
I read a lot of reviews online saying that nvme run hot, stupid me didnt listen perhaps I'm too obsess with the speed and cableless it provide, Any how its done and I have my first ever NVME! It's the Samsung 970 2tb evo plus. Since its my first time using this could someone please give me an input on how to properly handle this kind of device, particularly the heat it generates.
 
 
Things I've done
1. updated the drivers/firmware
2. run benchmark, record the speed & temperature info 
*Running performance benchmark via Samsung Magician tool, It gave me the following result. Sequentials mb/s Read (3540) Write (3355), Random IOPS Read (415,527) Write (398,193). 
 
I recorded the temperature via HWINFO64 *Current* 71 degrees celsius   *Minimum* 41 degrees celsius *Maximum* 72 degrees celsius.
 
3. Bought this heatsink (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QV4W1W6/ref=twister_B07MMFDHG5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1) should be here by tomorrow night and will post update as soon as I get it. 
 
Things I've not done... yet
1. Currently my nvme is sitting between my ram and gpu. I was thinking of putting it below my gpu, that way my 120mm fan can cool it. 
2. buy nvme heatsink with small fans on it?
 
 
 
 
 
My pc specs are the following:
System
i9 9900k
EVGA GTX 1080 Ti
EVGA Classified K
EVGA P2 750W
EVGA clc 280mm
Lian Li 011 Dynamic
2x Western Digital Blue 2tb
1x Samsung 860 EVO 1tb
1x Corsair XT 480gb
1x Samsung NVME 970 EVO Plus 2tb
 
 
 
Thank you!
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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/08 17:51:09 (permalink)
    See how it does with the heatsink. I have the 500GB under my motherboards included heatsink and have yet to see it go over like 55 and that was after adding a lot of heat inside the case running stress tests for a while on GPU and CPU.

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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/08 17:57:09 (permalink)
    I installed it with the heat pad that came with z390 black and forgot about it.  Runs fine.   I am not concerned about heat as long as I have proper case airflow.
     
    72C is fine  

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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/10 10:12:00 (permalink)
    I was thinking about buying a NVMe heatsink but instead re-oriented my case fans so that there's only one intake fan, at the back. The rest (1 top, 3 front) all eject air from the case, this massively lowered my ambient in-case temps and my 960 Pro doesn't hit more than 55.


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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/10 10:31:24 (permalink)
    I have a 2 TB Corsair MP510 as my primary system drive. My M.2 NVMe temps run about 40-42C. No heatsink needed but then again I'm running 15 fans in a Corsair 1000D case.
     

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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/10 10:59:41 (permalink)
    Temps during benchmarking the drive are higher than normal use of those driver .....

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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/10 11:10:07 (permalink)
    I did a benchmark and the temp never exceeded 46C

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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/10 11:16:16 (permalink)
    It probably partly depends on the drive model?  I've never seen my 970 Evo Plus run below mid-40's even before I swapped to water and potentially had more airflow over its heatsink .

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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/10 23:45:43 (permalink)
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    See how it does with the heatsink. I have the 500GB under my motherboards included heatsink and have yet to see it go over like 55 and that was after adding a lot of heat inside the case running stress tests for a while on GPU and CPU.

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    I installed it with the heat pad that came with z390 black and forgot about it.  Runs fine.   I am not concerned about heat as long as I have proper case airflow.
     
    72C is fine  





    Thanks for reminding me, I forgot that my z370 classy k come with heatpad.
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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/10 23:48:35 (permalink)
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    I have a 2 TB Corsair MP510 as my primary system drive. My M.2 NVMe temps run about 40-42C. No heatsink needed but then again I'm running 15 fans in a Corsair 1000D case.
     




    Thats a lot of fans! I'm using Lian li 011d, I have my evga clc 280 on top pushing air out, 3x fans on both side and bottom pulling air in.
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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/10 23:49:44 (permalink)
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    Temps during benchmarking the drive are higher than normal use of those driver .....




    Yeah, but still concerned me. I will see how it goes with heatsink installed.
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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/11 00:01:12 (permalink)
    My nvme heatsink got delayed yesterday but finally got it today, unfortunately i run into screw problem. The one that came in with my motherboard is too small. I doesnt secure the nvme in place. I will provide picture. 
     
     
    https://imgur.com/a/HlRNWro
     
     
    Can EVGA provide me with different size of screw to secure my nvme or do I need to go to my local hardware store and try for different size. I just need the screw head to be bit bigger to secure my nvme.
     
     
     
    Thanks!
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/11 09:14:41 (permalink)
    I was in the same boat. I checked my MB box & didn't have a screw for it. I had one laying around sized 2.0 x 3mm that fit.


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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/11 10:47:30 (permalink)
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    I was in the same boat. I checked my MB box & didn't have a screw for it. I had one laying around sized 2.0 x 3mm that fit.




     is that the size of the nut or the screw?
     
    I bought this one, hopefully it have what i need.
    https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=830&area=en
     
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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/11 18:29:58 (permalink)
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    I was in the same boat. I checked my MB box & didn't have a screw for it. I had one laying around sized 2.0 x 3mm that fit.




     is that the size of the nut or the screw?
     
    I bought this one, hopefully it have what i need.
    https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=830&area=en
     



    Nice find.  That should work.

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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/12 01:02:39 (permalink)
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    I was in the same boat. I checked my MB box & didn't have a screw for it. I had one laying around sized 2.0 x 3mm that fit.




     is that the size of the nut or the screw?
     
    I bought this one, hopefully it have what i need.
    https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=830&area=en
     



    Nice find.  That should work.




     
    Thanks!
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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/19 17:11:06 (permalink)
    Hello,
     
     
     
    Sorry it took a while, I finally have everything up and running this are the result!
     
    Temp before applying heatsink:

     
    Temp after applying heatsink:

     
    For reference, I use this heatsink:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QV4W1W6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    unlike other heatsink this one uses screws (6 screws) instead of clamp.
     
     
    As for the screw, I use the Silverstone screw kit:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NSS7VMD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     

     
    The two screw from the left are from Silverstone screw kit, the one on the far right came from EVGA z370 Classified K mobo.
     
     
     
    Thank you everyone for your input!
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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/19 23:36:30 (permalink)
    I had to improvise and make my own DIY many years back when M.2 was just entering the scene for PC gaming.  Took pieces of heatsinks and thermal tap.  I did enough measurements to make sure it was clear of any GPUs above it when I had SLI running.  Good ol times and she's still purring along.  

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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/20 10:46:25 (permalink)
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    I had to improvise and make my own DIY many years back when M.2 was just entering the scene for PC gaming.  Took pieces of heatsinks and thermal tap.  I did enough measurements to make sure it was clear of any GPUs above it when I had SLI running.  Good ol times and she's still purring along.  




    I bet its also super expensive! :(
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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/20 13:08:20 (permalink)
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    I had to improvise and make my own DIY many years back when M.2 was just entering the scene for PC gaming.  Took pieces of heatsinks and thermal tap.  I did enough measurements to make sure it was clear of any GPUs above it when I had SLI running.  Good ol times and she's still purring along.  




    I bet its also super expensive! :(




    Back then around 2014, the M.2 512 GB PCIe 2.0 x16 SSD cost me around $550. lol  That included spending $50 for warranty since it was being sold as an OEM SSD on newegg and somehow I talked myself into spending that much versus no warranty at all since they were willing to discount the warranty to me in half which only cost me $50 around and than add another $30 on some DIY cooling parts since these things were known to run HOT.  At the end of the day, it wasn't cheap. 
     
    Here's a image of it currently purring along.
     

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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/21 15:58:00 (permalink)
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    I had to improvise and make my own DIY many years back when M.2 was just entering the scene for PC gaming.  Took pieces of heatsinks and thermal tap.  I did enough measurements to make sure it was clear of any GPUs above it when I had SLI running.  Good ol times and she's still purring along.  




    I bet its also super expensive! :(




    Back then around 2014, the M.2 512 GB PCIe 2.0 x16 SSD cost me around $550. lol  That included spending $50 for warranty since it was being sold as an OEM SSD on newegg and somehow I talked myself into spending that much versus no warranty at all since they were willing to discount the warranty to me in half which only cost me $50 around and than add another $30 on some DIY cooling parts since these things were known to run HOT.  At the end of the day, it wasn't cheap. 
     
    Here's a image of it currently purring along.
     

     



     
    Yeah, Thats a lot of money! Does it ever died on you? I wonder how durable nvme is compare to ssd. My corsair neutron xt ssd is dying and I'm about to return it for warranty, since its been 5 years corsair no longer have stock of the same quality so they were willing to send me the mp510 2tb for my 480gb ssd. I asked because they told me as soon as I get it I will only have until February of 2020 for warranty after that I'm on my own. I'm currently looking on the market for some warranty or sell it as new on ebay and buy the same nvme with 5 year warranty.
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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/21 20:05:34 (permalink)
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    Yeah, Thats a lot of money! Does it ever died on you? I wonder how durable nvme is compare to ssd. My corsair neutron xt ssd is dying and I'm about to return it for warranty, since its been 5 years corsair no longer have stock of the same quality so they were willing to send me the mp510 2tb for my 480gb ssd. I asked because they told me as soon as I get it I will only have until February of 2020 for warranty after that I'm on my own. I'm currently looking on the market for some warranty or sell it as new on ebay and buy the same nvme with 5 year warranty.




    Exchanged that 480GB SATA 6 to M.2 2TB, I wouldn't even blink if I were you.  Do w/e you'd like after that.
     
    Btw, how do you know your SSD is dying?  When SSD's are dying, they don't let you know, they just go poof!  Not the same as mechanical HDs that can give you signs of dying.

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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/22 13:42:35 (permalink)
    SMART system is giving me this warning:

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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/22 14:41:52 (permalink)
    I would backup your data on that SSD and proceed for an RMA.

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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/22 15:25:01 (permalink)
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    I would backup your data on that SSD and proceed for an RMA.




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    Re: Need advice for running nvme 2tb. 2019/09/22 23:47:38 (permalink)
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    I would backup your data on that SSD and proceed for an RMA.




    I got nothing on it, but fresh window 10 install. I sent it today. Wish me luck! :)





     
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