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2017/01/27 11:27:53 (permalink)
Hey guys. Anyone using these on the X58 platform? I have an X58 E770 Classy 3 currently running SATA SSD's in RAID 0. I'd like to use a PCI card to M.2 adapter to run M.2 NVMe SSD and increase my speed. Does X58 support booting from M.2 NVMe?
 
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    Re: NVMe M.2 on X58 2017/01/27 11:30:42 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby bg8780 2017/01/27 14:06:23
    Hello, unfortunately that is not possible with X58 motherboard, NVMe booting is not supported unless you are using Z97, X99 or Z170/270
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    Re: NVMe M.2 on X58 2017/01/27 11:44:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bg8780 2017/01/27 14:06:17
    As a Non-boot drive

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    Re: NVMe M.2 on X58 2017/01/27 12:04:56 (permalink)
    So then they would not work on the X79 Chipset as well, X79 Dark & Classified MBs? (As the OS Boot Device)
    I was looking at this one Plextor M8Pe AIC 256GB NVMe PCI-Express 3.0 x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) PX-256M8PeY.
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    Re: NVMe M.2 on X58 2017/01/27 12:21:08 (permalink)
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    So then they would not work on the X79 Chipset as well, X79 Dark & Classified MBs? (As the OS Boot Device)
    I was looking at this one Plextor M8Pe AIC 256GB NVMe PCI-Express 3.0 x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) PX-256M8PeY.
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    On X79 it should recognize the PCIe storage device in Windows, but it would not work as a boot device

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    Re: NVMe M.2 on X58 2017/01/27 12:23:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bg8780 2017/01/27 14:06:14
    It makes a good case for upgrading to an NVMe supported platform. The X58 is one of Intel's best chipsets and there is a lot you can do, but on the flip side of the coin there is a lot you can't do.

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    Re: NVMe M.2 on X58 2017/01/27 13:11:51 (permalink)
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    So then they would not work on the X79 Chipset as well, X79 Dark & Classified MBs? (As the OS Boot Device)
    I was looking at this one Plextor M8Pe AIC 256GB NVMe PCI-Express 3.0 x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) PX-256M8PeY.
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    On X79 it should recognize the PCIe storage device in Windows, but it would not work as a boot device


    Bummer, but thanks.
    Guess I have to wait for EVGA's New Motherboard to come out to replace my X79 Classified Rigs.

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    Re: NVMe M.2 on X58 2017/01/27 14:08:44 (permalink)
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    It makes a good case for upgrading to an NVMe supported platform. The X58 is one of Intel's best chipsets and there is a lot you can do, but on the flip side of the coin there is a lot you can't do.




    Agreed. I plan to upgrade to the X99 successor. This chip is still plenty powerful and still holds it's on against current platforms as evidenced here . As you said the architecture is outdated and a lot of newer tech is not support. My SSD's in RAID still net about 550mbps read/write. Good enough for gaming.
     
    Thanks for the answers everyone. I'll be waiting for EVGA's X99 motherboard successor ;)
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    Re: NVMe M.2 on X58 2017/01/27 14:57:03 (permalink)
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    It makes a good case for upgrading to an NVMe supported platform. The X58 is one of Intel's best chipsets and there is a lot you can do, but on the flip side of the coin there is a lot you can't do.




    Agreed. I plan to upgrade to the X99 successor. This chip is still plenty powerful and still holds it's on against current platforms as evidenced here . As you said the architecture is outdated and a lot of newer tech is not support. My SSD's in RAID still net about 550mbps read/write. Good enough for gaming.
     
    Thanks for the answers everyone. I'll be waiting for EVGA's X99 motherboard successor ;)


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    Re: NVMe M.2 on X58 2017/01/29 00:24:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bg8780 2017/01/30 06:40:36
    I found this, did not try it myself.
     
    Not the Sabertooth but a similar ASUS board with a P6X58D Premium. But I made the Samsung 950 Pro work with it easy with an Asus M.2 PCI-E card and now also working with a riser cable due to space constraints. Speeds are of course PCI-E 2.0 at around 1700 mbps sequential read but still a huge increase in speeds.

    AFAIK the 950 Pro is the only NVMe drive that works with X58 without bios modding cause it has a Legacy Boot Option built in. The 960 Pro/EVO doesn't have this option AFAIK.

    Pics and instructions on this link,
    http://www.overclock.net/...lub/1690#post_25627797
     
    http://www.overclock.net/...10300_50#post_25761833
     
    https://www.asus.com/ca-e...HYPER_M2_X4_MINI_CARD/
     
    https://audiocricket.com/...asus-p6t-se-mainboard/
     
     
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    Re: NVMe M.2 on X58 2017/01/30 06:48:52 (permalink)
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    I found this, did not try it myself.
     
    Not the Sabertooth but a similar ASUS board with a P6X58D Premium. But I made the Samsung 950 Pro work with it easy with an Asus M.2 PCI-E card and now also working with a riser cable due to space constraints. Speeds are of course PCI-E 2.0 at around 1700 mbps sequential read but still a huge increase in speeds.

    AFAIK the 950 Pro is the only NVMe drive that works with X58 without bios modding cause it has a Legacy Boot Option built in. The 960 Pro/EVO doesn't have this option AFAIK.

    Pics and instructions on this link,
    http://www.overclock.net/...lub/1690#post_25627797
     
    http://www.overclock.net/...10300_50#post_25761833
     
    https://www.asus.com/ca-e...HYPER_M2_X4_MINI_CARD/
     
    https://audiocricket.com/...asus-p6t-se-mainboard/
     
     




     
    Thanks for the info. I've been thinking about picking up a PX1. Looks like 950 Pro is my only choice for a SSD.
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    Re: NVMe M.2 on X58 2017/02/14 21:23:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bg8780 2017/02/15 06:37:57
    You can boot Linux from an NVME drive. The only thing you need is an initrd and kernel on a USB drive. The initrd loads a recent kernel with NVME support, which can find the NVME drive and mount it. Once mounted, the main system boots from the NVME drive.
    If you need Windows or Mac, you are SOL'ed.
    I run my Samsung Pro 960 like this on my X58. I get around 1800MB/s read and 1600MB/s write speeds with the board's ancient PCIe 2.0, which is about 3 times faster than the SSD speeds I get with Micron 550. So, not so shabby for a machine which is 8  years old right now.
    I had also made a post about this late last year.
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    Re: NVMe M.2 on X58 2017/02/15 06:38:48 (permalink)
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    You can boot Linux from an NVME drive. The only thing you need is an initrd and kernel on a USB drive. The initrd loads a recent kernel with NVME support, which can find the NVME drive and mount it. Once mounted, the main system boots from the NVME drive.
    If you need Windows or Mac, you are SOL'ed.
    I run my Samsung Pro 960 like this on my X58. I get around 1800MB/s read and 1600MB/s write speeds with the board's ancient PCIe 2.0, which is about 3 times faster than the SSD speeds I get with Micron 550. So, not so shabby for a machine which is 8  years old right now.
    I had also made a post about this late last year.


    Thanks for the post. This is great to know but this machine isn't my Linux box. This is pretty much my dedicated gaming rig.
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    Re: NVMe M.2 on X58 2017/02/20 17:44:23 (permalink)
    So I tried to install a Plextor M8Pe AIC 512GB NVMe PCI-Express drive in my old X58 EVGA Classified board out of curosity and interestingly enough the bios recognized the drive! Only thing that stopped me from testing it out was that my primary Sata boot drive refused to boot up Windows 10 until I removed the NVME drive. Just got a black screen. So it makes me wonder this must be some hardware conflict. I mean the drive is recognizable on the bios level along with my original Sata drive. Something must get in the way of normal booting process.
     
     
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