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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/09/03 20:30:45 (permalink)
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A 5900X is not causing a bottleneck.




The OP is literally, not figuratively, describing a CPU bottleneck:
 
SEVERYN4YK
I wouldn’t pay attention to low gpu usage wouldn’t if the performance I have was adequate. For example, in Snowrunner, due to ~50% usage on Ultra settings, I have 40-50 fps. I don’t get anything if I reduce my settings. For instance, in Cyberpunk, the FPS stays around 70. Normally, you would decrease quality to obtain three digit frame rate. Instead, after lowering graphics quality, I only see a decrease in usage, same 70 FPS and image that looks like crap. :D




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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/09/03 20:35:12 (permalink)
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GTXMan
 
A 5900X is not causing a bottleneck.




The OP literally is describing a CPU bottleneck:
 
SEVERYN4YK
I wouldn’t pay attention to low gpu usage wouldn’t if the performance I have was adequate. For example, in Snowrunner, due to ~50% usage on Ultra settings, I have 40-50 fps. I don’t get anything if I reduce my settings. For instance, in Cyberpunk, the FPS stays around 70. Normally, you would decrease quality to obtain three digit frame rate. Instead, after lowering graphics quality, I only see a decrease in usage, same 70 FPS and image that looks like crap. :D








The OP is describing something, for sure, but as I just pointed out he is scoring well above average in both total TimeSpy score accounting for his upper-tier CPU and even more importantly well above average in graphics score accounting for his card. The only issue here is inaccurate GPU usage readings, for whatever reason.
 
Edit: did you look at his CPU score via the 3dmark link he posted? He scored higher than my water-cooled 10850K at 5Ghz lol. There is no CPU bottleneck here.
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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/09/03 20:39:47 (permalink)
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I'm just curious: who is directing this stringent of action against curse words which are literally self-censored? The "s word" is now frequent on cable television and you guys are censoring it on the internet? Seriously?


The forum terms of service that you agree to is what is guiding the stringent action, as well as EVGA since they set the terms of service. I don’t care what word is common on television. Yes, seriously, abide by the rules or you will get banned for breaking them. It’s simple enough to follow the rules.

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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/09/03 20:41:11 (permalink)
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I'm just curious: who is directing this stringent of action against curse words which are literally self-censored? The "s word" is now frequent on cable television and you guys are censoring it on the internet? Seriously?


The forum terms of service that you agree to is what is guiding the stringent action, as well as EVGA since they set the terms of service. I don’t care what word is common on television. Yes, seriously, abide by the rules or you will get banned for breaking them. It’s simple enough to follow the rules.



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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/09/03 22:20:51 (permalink)
Something is definitely limiting you in games and it isn't the card. It seems like you have a frame-cap somewhere (Nvidia control panel or Precision X1 maybe?). Is Vsync turned on in those games or in NV-control panel? What is your monitor model #?
 
Normally, I'd ask to see a screenshot of your BIOS settings page for the PCI-e slots, but if you got that timespy score, that is probably set correctly. Same method of debunking memory settings, over-temp, etc. It seems like there must be a frame-limit. I'm going to have to think on this one, as you don't seem to have a global setting impacting things.

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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/09/03 22:24:50 (permalink)
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Something is definitely limiting you in games and it isn't the card. It seems like you have a frame-cap somewhere (Nvidia control panel or Precision X1 maybe?). Is Vsync turned on in those games or in NV-control panel? What is your monitor model #?
 
Normally, I'd ask to see a screenshot of your BIOS settings page for the PCI-e slots, but if you got that timespy score, that is probably set correctly. Same method of debunking memory settings, over-temp, etc. It seems like there must be a frame-limit. I'm going to have to think on this one, as you don't seem to have a global setting impacting things.




Nothing is limiting the card. They're getting bad power % readings while his actual card's numbers are well above average.


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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/09/03 23:22:29 (permalink)
Hey I'm curious OP, what antivirus software do you use? Also do you use precision x1 or afterburner to control fan speed?
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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/09/04 03:02:06 (permalink)
What ram speed and timing are you running?? Faster ram will alleviate a cpu bottle neck at lower resolutions.

You should be running atleast 3200 cl14, if not your losing performance. I see large performance losses running 3200 cl16 vs my daily speed of 4700 cl17 that i run 24/7. Fast ram can gain 50fps in some titles at 1080p. At 4k ram matters less since the cpu is no longer bottlenecked but it still helps in certain titles.
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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/09/04 05:53:22 (permalink)
Are there any background apps that use or poll the GPU, like an active/animated wallpaper app?
 
GPU Riser?
 
Is the GPU in the first slot and have you checked that it's running at 16x PCIe 4.0, as it should on that MB?  Is there a card in the 2nd or 3rd 16x slot?
 
Have you tested a couple CPU single core benchmarks and compared with the expected results?  Tried SMT disabled?
 
All windows, MB bios, drivers up to date? 
 
Have you tried Rebar enabled and disabled?
 
GPU Hot Spot and VRAM junction temps report as normal in HWiNFO?
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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/09/04 06:00:32 (permalink)
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What ram speed and timing are you running?? Faster ram will alleviate a cpu bottle neck at lower resolutions.

You should be running atleast 3200 cl14, if not your losing performance. I see large performance losses running 3200 cl16 vs my daily speed of 4700 cl17 that i run 24/7. Fast ram can gain 50fps in some titles at 1080p. At 4k ram matters less since the cpu is no longer bottlenecked but it still helps in certain titles.



This here. Should be able to run 3600CL16 on any decent ram which is about the minimum a performance Ryzen setup should run.  Higher the better.  But his TS test shows 3600 ram and a 4.7ghz core so I think he's doing OK. 
 
If he's CPU bound, it's imho not due the hardware, but how the hardware is being used.  OP, you're not running W10E 1809 LTSC by any chance?
 
I'd try testing a few modern games at 1080p or even 720p, to see what the FPS is when CPU bound.
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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/09/07 08:43:12 (permalink)
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Something is definitely limiting you in games and it isn't the card. It seems like you have a frame-cap somewhere (Nvidia control panel or Precision X1 maybe?). Is Vsync turned on in those games or in NV-control panel? What is your monitor model #?
 
Normally, I'd ask to see a screenshot of your BIOS settings page for the PCI-e slots, but if you got that timespy score, that is probably set correctly. Same method of debunking memory settings, over-temp, etc. It seems like there must be a frame-limit. I'm going to have to think on this one, as you don't seem to have a global setting impacting things.


Nothing is limiting the card. They're getting bad power % readings while his actual card's numbers are well above average.



From OP's posts, it seems they are actually limited in all games, but not in Time Spy. The readings seem totally correct in Time Spy (and so does performance), but you're saying the readings are wrong and his crappy performance in games is totally normal? I disagree. His FPS is not normal in games. He even tested a different card and shows no increase in performance going to the better card. That means something else is limiting his card in those applications, which is why I suggested that those applications may have vsync or a frame limit on. Clearly everything is working great in Time Spy, so what is causing the loss in other apps?
 
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This here. Should be able to run 3600CL16 on any decent ram which is about the minimum a performance Ryzen setup should run.  Higher the better.  But his TS test shows 3600 ram and a 4.7ghz core so I think he's doing OK. 
 
If he's CPU bound, it's imho not due the hardware, but how the hardware is being used.  OP, you're not running W10E 1809 LTSC by any chance?
 
I'd try testing a few modern games at 1080p or even 720p, to see what the FPS is when CPU bound.



Exactly what I was getting at too. His memory is running at 3600, he has no CPU bottleneck and Time Spy isn't showing a bottleneck anywhere. So I would think it has to be some kind of software limit on his gaming apps.

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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/09/16 14:08:13 (permalink)
SEVERYN4YK:
I hope you haven't jumped off of a bridge by now (lol). I have basically the same setup as you, 5900X & FTW3.  I had the same problems that you were experiencing with CP2077 flatling.  I went through my setup top to bottom and could find no problems.  All my other games seemed to have been running okay.  Cut to the chase.  Turns out, and just by chance, I was going over the the Nvidia app (Nvidia Control Panel), the one were to get your drivers, and noticed that the "Overlay" function was turned on.  Long story short - I turned it off and now CP runs okay so.  Worth noting is the I upgraded from a RTX 2070 and never a problem with the overlay.  Good luck.
 
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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/09/24 01:09:09 (permalink)
yes that doesn't seems right 
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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/11/12 09:51:54 (permalink)
What motherboard are you using?  I have basically the exact same setup with the exact same issue.  Except I have a different CPU I am also basically getting anywhere from 60 to 75 FPS on the new battlefield even on medium settings which does not seem right at all. 
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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/11/16 09:32:02 (permalink)
Has anyone figured this out? I'm stuck with the same issue. Good example is Metro Exodus EE benchmark. 1440p, 4K, RTX on/off, all give about 70fps 9(+- a few) average. GPU usage floats between 89% and 55%. No single core usage about 60%. And even though I'm using 2700x - I've tried with 5600x and I get the same result. It's hard to have a cpu bottleneck of 30+ fps (based on revier's benchmarks) at 4k. Bot TimeSpy and PR scores are above average. So GPU performs fine. So what's slowing it down?
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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/12/01 13:12:12 (permalink)
I upgraded to a 5900x and I replaced my powersupply to 1000w titanium which is probably overkill.  I also switched it to overclock to provide more power to the card.   My issues with battlefield 2042 seem to be the game itself poorly optimized and by upgrading my cpu, power supply and moving the switch to overlock mode seems to have fixed my frame issues in other games.  
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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/12/01 13:24:57 (permalink)
I had a similar issue with my 2080 super, the difference was my fps were also terrible (10-40fps on 1080p medium settings, I now get 150fps+ 1440p high). I ended up doing a fresh windows install which fixed the issue. You can find that thread where with the help of a few community members we got the issue fixed. 
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Re: Low RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 usage - terrible gaming performance 2021/12/14 13:43:04 (permalink)
Morning All,
 
Just thought I'd post my fix here. I had the exact same issues -
CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6 Core AM4
MOBO - Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus WiFi
GPU - ASUS GeForce RTX 3080 Ti TUF Gaming OC
RAM - CMW32GX4M2Z3200C16 Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz DDR4 RAM
 
For my issue, it was fixed by uninstalling Citrix Receiver. I had it installed for work.
As soon as I uninstalled, everything works perfect again.
review your installed programs, something may be causing it.
 
Good Luck in your search.
 
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