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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 19:57:00 (permalink)
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Classy tool works fine with factory installed vbios (all 3). No issues, but to use the XOC and not have any voltage control kind of defeats the whole purpose. Also my scores are far worse using it.

And you powered down and turned all the Power Switch off on the Power Supply after the Bios Update?

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 20:01:22 (permalink)
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Classy tool works fine with factory installed vbios (all 3). No issues, but to use the XOC and not have any voltage control kind of defeats the whole purpose. Also my scores are far worse using it.

And you powered down and turned all the Power Switch off on the Power Supply after the Bios Update?


Does yours work with XOCRTXBIOS.ROM?
 
Also this is a work in progress. Just flashed it on the card a few hours ago.

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 20:03:43 (permalink)
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Classy tool works fine with factory installed vbios (all 3). No issues, but to use the XOC and not have any voltage control kind of defeats the whole purpose. Also my scores are far worse using it.

And you powered down and turned all the Power Switch off on the Power Supply after the Bios Update?

Does yours work with XOCRTXBIOS.ROM?
Also this is a work in progress. Just flashed it on the card a few hours ago.

I am Not going to use LN2 so I have no plans on playing with that Bios, sorry.
I did update the OC Bios with the Stock LN2 Bios for Full Fan Speeds and I did do a Power Down.
"Also this is a work in progress. Just flashed it on the card a few hours ago." Did you do a Power Down?
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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 20:09:30 (permalink)
@BCav I don't see how it could be vendor identified if term used is "generic."  My interpretation of this is that one needs to modify the XOC bios with their ID in order for it to work. Thus filtering out non the non adept and ect ect.
 
Of course I am feeling pessimistic at the moment and this could just be a gaff / oversight.

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 20:19:53 (permalink)
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Classy tool works fine with factory installed vbios (all 3). No issues, but to use the XOC and not have any voltage control kind of defeats the whole purpose. Also my scores are far worse using it.

And you powered down and turned all the Power Switch off on the Power Supply after the Bios Update?

Does yours work with XOCRTXBIOS.ROM?
Also this is a work in progress. Just flashed it on the card a few hours ago.

I am Not going to use LN2 so I have no plans on playing with that Bios, sorry.
I did update the OC Bios with the Stock LN2 Bios for Full Fan Speeds and I did do a Power Down.
"Also this is a work in progress. Just flashed it on the card a few hours ago." Did you do a Power Down?


Yes, I powered down. No difference.
 
Why would you need LN2 if it can't pass 2250mhz to begin with?

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 20:26:09 (permalink)
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Classy tool works fine with factory installed vbios (all 3). No issues, but to use the XOC and not have any voltage control kind of defeats the whole purpose. Also my scores are far worse using it.

And you powered down and turned all the Power Switch off on the Power Supply after the Bios Update?

Does yours work with XOCRTXBIOS.ROM?
Also this is a work in progress. Just flashed it on the card a few hours ago.

I am Not going to use LN2 so I have no plans on playing with that Bios, sorry.
I did update the OC Bios with the Stock LN2 Bios for Full Fan Speeds and I did do a Power Down.
"Also this is a work in progress. Just flashed it on the card a few hours ago." Did you do a Power Down?


Yes, I powered down. No difference.
 
Why would you need LN2 if it can't pass 2250mhz to begin with?


You don't,
But the XOC Bios is meant to be use with LN2 is all, at least this is what I am reading.

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 20:26:44 (permalink)
heh. I can't pass 2190. So ya. Even at 2190 its a mess... Look at that chart in xdev.  Basically have to get well below -50c to see stability anything remotely high clock. maybe -30 will yield stable 2250 but mostly going to need -60+ to see ~2400mhz ect...
 
 
 

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 20:35:33 (permalink)
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heh. I can't pass 2190. So ya. Even at 2190 its a mess... Look at that chart in xdev.  Basically have to get well below -50c to see stability anything remotely high clock. maybe -30 will yield stable 2250 but mostly going to need -60+ to see ~2400mhz ect...
 
 
 


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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 20:42:03 (permalink)
Both of you are still killing me.
But Maybe some more Cold Weather coming next week, only wish I had at Hydro Copper Water Block on hand.

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 20:44:45 (permalink)
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Both of you are still killing me.
But Maybe some more Cold Weather coming next week, only wish I had at Hydro Copper Water Block on hand.



He is killing me by alot!

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 20:59:15 (permalink)
link pls. 
 
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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 21:05:42 (permalink)
link?

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 21:08:57 (permalink)
Yep, this seems to be true. So right now On AIO I can run around 40.5K to 40.7k gpu, which has me in the top 20 at the moment.
 
link to this ?? I would like to take a look

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 21:16:59 (permalink)
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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 21:57:00 (permalink)
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19216105
 It's right on the HOF page?

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 22:04:26 (permalink)
johnksss Looks like you are Killing it https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19216105/fs/19238811/fs/19235863
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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 22:14:32 (permalink)
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johnksss Looks like you are Killing it https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19216105/fs/19238811/fs/19235863


Overall score yes, gpu score, not so much.

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 22:38:33 (permalink)
Oh. Nice score. Thanks for posting. I think I have the KPE upto 42000+ now just waiting on cpu to get a break from Windows nonsense to put in a good score.

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 22:39:32 (permalink)
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johnksss Looks like you are Killing it https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19216105/fs/19238811/fs/19235863

Overall score yes, gpu score, not so much.

Myself I could really careless on Graphics Score only, but ok.

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 22:42:37 (permalink)
True johnksss's cpu is killing it makes me wanna lap a 7980. But im just going to wait untel after Zen 2 hits the market before purchase a cpu with more than 8 cores. Had an eye on that 9990xe auction but meh...
 

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 22:51:58 (permalink)
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True johnksss's cpu is killing it makes me wanna lap a 7980. But im just going to wait untel after Zen 2 hits the market before purchase a cpu with more than 8 cores. Had an eye on that 9990xe auction but meh...
 


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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/04 23:54:49 (permalink)
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johnksss Looks like you are Killing it https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19216105/fs/19238811/fs/19235863

Overall score yes, gpu score, not so much.

Myself I could really careless on Graphics Score only, but ok.


You miss understand what I'm getting at. I only really care about over all score, but feel my gpu is lagging behind due to either cpu core clock or something else I haven't quite figured out.
 
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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/05 04:12:57 (permalink)
I think that's a bug, will try it all tomorrow at work.
I'd like to stress again, using XOC bios for just chilled GPU is not good idea :)

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/05 06:44:31 (permalink)
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I think that's a bug, will try it all tomorrow at work.
I'd like to stress again, using XOC bios for just chilled GPU is not good idea :)


As long as it works on the normal bios files.

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/05 10:37:17 (permalink)
Have you tried messing with the memory OC some more? Might be your 2125 isn't the best spot stable landing for your memory.

I'm planning to take the card Chilled tonight with my 7960x (not the greatest sample) I'll be able to see how graphics score compares vs my 9900K run with it. See what effect the mesh uArch and 500MHz core disadvantage plays.
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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/05 11:19:30 (permalink)
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Have you tried messing with the memory OC some more? Might be your 2125 isn't the best spot stable landing for your memory.

I'm planning to take the card Chilled tonight with my 7960x (not the greatest sample) I'll be able to see how graphics score compares vs my 9900K run with it. See what effect the mesh uArch and 500MHz core disadvantage plays.



What block did you put the KPE to chill?

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/05 11:26:26 (permalink)
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johnksss Looks like you are Killing it https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19216105/fs/19238811/fs/19235863

Overall score yes, gpu score, not so much.

Myself I could really careless on Graphics Score only, but ok.

You miss understand what I'm getting at. I only really care about over all score, but feel my gpu is lagging behind due to either cpu core clock or something else I haven't quite figured out.
 
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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/05 11:27:21 (permalink)
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I think that's a bug, will try it all tomorrow at work.
I'd like to stress again, using XOC bios for just chilled GPU is not good idea :)

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/05 12:01:08 (permalink)
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Have you tried messing with the memory OC some more? Might be your 2125 isn't the best spot stable landing for your memory.

I'm planning to take the card Chilled tonight with my 7960x (not the greatest sample) I'll be able to see how graphics score compares vs my 9900K run with it. See what effect the mesh uArch and 500MHz core disadvantage plays.

Yes, I have been checking memory and core. Still looking for optimal settings per benchmark. So it's a work in progress.
Still benching my laptop at the same time, so it's taking even longer. :D

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/05 19:14:31 (permalink)
Confirmed issue with tool, updating it to fix soon.

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