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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/01 12:58:24 (permalink)
alex, the fixed voltage across all frequencies from 800MHz to 3600MHz is when you use override.  I think what you want is to use Adaptive.  Set it to adaptive with a negative offset, lets say 100mV.  This way the voltage will vary according to frequency, but the 100mV negative offset applies to when under load or idle, so sometimes it might be stable under load but not on idle.....if this is the case ease up on the undervolt offset.

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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/01 13:00:34 (permalink)
Override is useful with a high overclock to find the stable voltage, then one can mess around with adaptive.  But at 3.6GHz adaptive is best, and try to use the highest offset possible without BSOD or freezes, to get the best temp reduction.
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/01 13:05:25 (permalink)
Hi vistarshook, thanks, that explained it well, I'll try that out tonight and will reply back once I find something that works. Thanks again!
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/03 20:01:25 (permalink)
Hi Vistarshook, I didn't get a chance to adjust the bios settings yet for adaptive, but a quick question when you have a moment. When you opened up the laptop, did you notice that the battery is removable? Would the laptop work without a battery (just plugged in with the dc input?) I have two Dell Venue 11 Pro's from a few years ago that I use as HTPC's and noticed today that the network card was working on one, couldn't even uninstall it, then I decided to open it up from it's flip case and noticed the plastic hardshell was warped and the screen was separated. Turns out the battery bulged so much that because of the plastic hardshell in the rear, it pushed against the front screen and popped it out....anyways, it happened on both, at the same time, but at least it's removable, but it wont work without a battery. This is exactly the issue I have: youtube.com/watch?v=SCHYQ8u5T5w
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/03 20:04:42 (permalink)
Also, I'm going to check the BIOS now, but I don't think I ever saw it, but apparently Dell had a option in the BIOS to limit the max charge, esp. if you had it plugged in all the time, I'm wondering if this has it too, as I plan to use the AC adapter 90% of the time.
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/03 20:09:12 (permalink)
Nope, just checked, it's not offered in BIOS 1.03, and I doubt it's available in the higher version which just addresses the meltdown/specter patches.
 
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/04 04:38:49 (permalink)
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I checked temperature with PrecisionX Mobile software and it was 90+ degrees with fan speed ~4400 rpm. Then i bought a laptop pad and temperature dropped to 84-85 degrees.



Nope, not normal.  My SC17 GTX 1070 4K Gsync model operates at around 65-70c at full load when fan speed is set to 4400 RPM (fan boost enabled).

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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/04 04:55:58 (permalink)
alex.williams, yes it easy to remove the battery.

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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/06 13:48:53 (permalink)
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alex.williams, yes it easy to remove the battery.



Thanks!
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/07 09:11:29 (permalink)
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alex, the fixed voltage across all frequencies from 800MHz to 3600MHz is when you use override.  I think what you want is to use Adaptive.  Set it to adaptive with a negative offset, lets say 100mV.  This way the voltage will vary according to frequency, but the 100mV negative offset applies to when under load or idle, so sometimes it might be stable under load but not on idle.....if this is the case ease up on the undervolt offset.



Thanks again vistarshook, I'm using the evga precision mobile x and set a custom profile with adaptive set to -20 and I do see the voltage drop by that value -- but not significant in terms of temps, but I'll try -40 tomorrow after testing stability today with the -20
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/20 07:17:00 (permalink)
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alex, the fixed voltage across all frequencies from 800MHz to 3600MHz is when you use override.  I think what you want is to use Adaptive.  Set it to adaptive with a negative offset, lets say 100mV.  This way the voltage will vary according to frequency, but the 100mV negative offset applies to when under load or idle, so sometimes it might be stable under load but not on idle.....if this is the case ease up on the undervolt offset.




Hi Vistarshook,
 
I tried -010 increments on the voltage offset and I'm currently at -130mv (and 2.3K CPU Fan Speed) and so far, so good at idle and at full speed (non-turbo at 2.7GHz) my temps max at 54C using handbrake. I tried -140, but HB crashed. Dailing back to -130, no issues.
 
Thanks again!
 
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/21 13:35:51 (permalink)
I think in my case i had bad luck on the cpu, compared to the gpu. The gpu always stays under 80 even with decent oc (200/500). The cpu instead, was running more than 90 even with stock profile. I managed a bit now, with an undervolt of -110 on the cpu. Try before repasting, will help the entire headroom to stay cooler, with benefits also for the gpu.
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/21 16:18:39 (permalink)
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I think in my case i had bad luck on the cpu, compared to the gpu. The gpu always stays under 80 even with decent oc (200/500). The cpu instead, was running more than 90 even with stock profile. I managed a bit now, with an undervolt of -110 on the cpu. Try before repasting, will help the entire headroom to stay cooler, with benefits also for the gpu.


Is that with Turbo or with your multiplier raised past 2.7? I don't remember how hot mine got, but it did get hot with Turbo enabled prior to any -mv adjustment and the default bios fan curve. Only after setting the fan curve with precision mobile x / no turbo / -130mv my cpu temps haven't exceeded 54C. Haven't found anything yet worth enabling turbo for at the expense of heat/fan noise...even handbrake gets pathetic encoding fps with the 6820HK at 3.4GHz compared to my 6850K (at 3.4GHz turbo disabled) Enabling turbo on the SC17 resulted in about 2-3 FPS more, but a far cry compared to the 6850K, which is more than double the FPS (probably due to the extra 2 cores/ 4 threads.) Would have loved to throw a 6 core in there when released, but it's BGA and Intel would probably prevent it requiring a new chipset if it wasn't (like if you bought a clevo/sager using a desktop cpu), then there's the BIOS update, and finally the MS Mafia stating you can't do so running Windows 8.1 -- really hating the state of the industry today.


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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/22 04:28:59 (permalink)
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I think in my case i had bad luck on the cpu, compared to the gpu. The gpu always stays under 80 even with decent oc (200/500). The cpu instead, was running more than 90 even with stock profile. I managed a bit now, with an undervolt of -110 on the cpu. Try before repasting, will help the entire headroom to stay cooler, with benefits also for the gpu.


Is that with Turbo or with your multiplier raised past 2.7? I don't remember how hot mine got, but it did get hot with Turbo enabled prior to any -mv adjustment and the default bios fan curve. Only after setting the fan curve with precision mobile x / no turbo / -130mv my cpu temps haven't exceeded 54C. Haven't found anything yet worth enabling turbo for at the expense of heat/fan noise...even handbrake gets pathetic encoding fps with the 6820HK at 3.4GHz compared to my 6850K (at 3.4GHz turbo disabled) Enabling turbo on the SC17 resulted in about 2-3 FPS more, but a far cry compared to the 6850K, which is more than double the FPS (probably due to the extra 2 cores/ 4 threads.) Would have loved to throw a 6 core in there when released, but it's BGA and Intel would probably prevent it requiring a new chipset if it wasn't (like if you bought a clevo/sager using a desktop cpu), then there's the BIOS update, and finally the MS Mafia stating you can't do so running Windows 8.1 -- really hating the state of the industry today.




with the superclock i remembered the first day i was hitting like 90 degress. After i realized that preset was set to an offset of +100mv (crazy). After i managed to undervolt, i'm still having abnormal temp ( for 3.0ghz with wildlands i'm still at 80), but is much better than before. The thing is that is not point of having an unlocked cpu, if after you can't do basically nothing to improve it. a 7700hq then was a better choice, unlocked and no stress.
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/23 01:00:04 (permalink)
I get 70c average max is 75c with +175 on the core and +650 on the memory, this is the 1070 version though, not sure bout the 1080 version
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/23 10:52:15 (permalink)
In General your cards will run cooler also by not overclocking the Memory.
While Great for Benchmarking it is not really needed for everyday gaming.

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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/23 10:55:10 (permalink)
I managed to repaste my laptop guys. I will check the new temp in a bit.
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/23 11:20:00 (permalink)
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I managed to repaste my laptop guys. I will check the new temp in a bit.

With what Thermal Paste?

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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/24 10:25:20 (permalink)
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I managed to repaste my laptop guys. I will check the new temp in a bit.

With what Thermal Paste?


i used the arctic 5 for a trial. yesterday seemed that the temp were a bit better (like 5-6 degrees less). But today, i'm seeing that two cores running much hotter than the other two. Can be a bad application problem? and why yesterday seemed fine? " />
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/24 10:31:03 (permalink)
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I managed to repaste my laptop guys. I will check the new temp in a bit.

With what Thermal Paste?


i used the arctic 5 for a trial. yesterday seemed that the temp were a bit better (like 5-6 degrees less). But today, i'm seeing that two cores running much hotter than the other two. Can be a bad application problem? and why yesterday seemed fine? " />


That was part of why a while back I changed over to MX-3 then to MX-4 and have Stated with MX-4.

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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/24 11:51:09 (permalink)
In the screenshot, your CPU load is uneven. Because CPU load is uneven, temps are uneven. They will never be perfectly even anyway. And because CPU cores are next to CPU cores, the hotter cores with more load heat up the cores next to them.
Looks pretty normal to me. When you see 15 c or more difference in core temperature at the same load, that's when you start to wonder.

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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/24 12:51:53 (permalink)
Exactly, to test for core temp differentials, better to use a stress test to put an even load on all cores (i.e, Aida64, OCCT, Prime95, etc.)


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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/24 16:34:13 (permalink)
Tomorrow I will do deeper tests, but is weird because I never noticed that before the repaste. There is a chance also I messed up with the ring ratio, if all cores are on 3.5, 32 ring is fine? I still don't get how it works, and every generation Intel handle it differently.
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/24 17:16:54 (permalink)
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if all cores are on 3.5, 32 ring is fine? I still don't get how it works, and every generation Intel handle it differently.

Yes, ring runs 300MHz slower than core on Kabylake.

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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/24 17:24:56 (permalink)
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if all cores are on 3.5, 32 ring is fine? I still don't get how it works, and every generation Intel handle it differently.

Yes, ring runs 300MHz slower than core on Kabylake.

Thank you Vitars. And in the case I set the 4 cores with different speeds, shall I always refer to the core clock of the 1 core?
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/24 17:49:43 (permalink)
yes....example, if you run 1 core at 3.9GHz the Ring will run at 3.6GHz (depending on load).  You can actually just set the ring at the same as the 1 core, but it will run 300MHz slower anyways.

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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/24 17:53:30 (permalink)
I don't overclock the ring past stock 3.6GHz, because for some reason it doesn't like too, requiring quite a bit more voltage to get it stable.  So even when at 4.2GHz (-20mV offset), I keep it at 3.6GHz instead of 3.9GHz, because overclocking it would require 40mV more.

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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/27 03:48:54 (permalink)
Finally repasted the laptop, using gelid gc-extreme got around 12 C decrease in CPU temp and 5 C in GPU.
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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2018/02/27 03:54:18 (permalink)
Good job.

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Re: Is 85-90 C GPU temperature normal? 2020/04/17 21:58:46 (permalink)
Hey vistarshook,
 
Guess what, battery bulge and it took out my trackpad in less than 1.5 years...see my post here: https://forums.evga.com/W...-m3046331.aspx#3046332
 

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