https://www.techpowerup.com/236910/intel-intros-core-i9-7920x-hedt-processor
 
A 12-core/24-thread processor based on 14 nm "Skylake-X" for an MSRP of 1,199 US dollars. So if you have been wanting to order this processor now you can. A quick check at Newegg just now shows they are available.
 
 

 
i9 now eh? When did they start selling?

529th
When I read the RSS thread topic I thought I seen i9 920X, lol
 
This will be exciting seeing the two HEDT go head to head.  That TR has only one con and that's the 180 TDP, the rest looks better on paper, minus the L2 cache.

Not really....Time Spy TR-1950X vs i7-6950x. Intel rips it apart no pun intended. Well maybe a little. The i9's are going to dismantle Treadripper!

Scarlet-Tech
Is there a reason it shows your Titan Xp at base clocks on the 1950x? Did the card boost up as intended

Not sure what he was doing not my TR. I was just looking at the CPU scores. This was the best example for TR. I can get over 13000 when I lower my OC on my Titan Xp so maybe he was just trying to get the highest possible CPU score.

panzlock

CptSpig
The i9's are going to dismantle Treadripper!

At those prices they better do nothing short of dismantling Threadripper.

What do you mean even the 7900x is killing it on Future Mark. Last time I checked they are the same price? Micro Center had the 7900X for 899.99 even a better value. 

panzlock

CptSpig
 
What do you mean even the 7900x is killing it on Future Mark. Last time I checked they are the same price? Micro Center had the 7900X for 899.99 even a better value. 

First of all it's not killing TR. And second, Futuremark? Really??? You might want to evaluate other CPU capabilities if you're ready to spend $900 on such a component. 
 
Benchmarks? Seriously, you people need to provide better arguments than benchmark scores. On the dyno the 505 Hp Corvette has similar performance to the 530 Hp Porsche 911 GT2 RS. But put them both on track and guess what happens?

Give us a better argument?  Synthetic benchmarks for multicore CPU's is a good gauge for speed. Usually more cores better performance but not in the case of TR. 

529th
If your idea of TR being ripped apart at those low of percentages it's safe to say you have an inflated self absorption ego about it.
 
Thank you for participating, the exit door is on the right, next.
 
p.s. i do want Intel to put up strong numbers but I wouldn't inflate my views on it.  that's like saying, "The sun is only 92.96 million miles away."  Only?  Your scale observation is WAY off thus your use of words is indicative of a person who I described above.

Wow talk about EGO....well to bad it's not your thread. It figures you could not come up with anything better. When a 10 core year old processor beats a currant 16 core processor I would say that's pretty good. When you have to lower you self to personal attacks I know I have won this debate! You must have bought one of these TR's and regret the purchase. For you the door is on the left.

09973
Now now, lets not start calling people names, BUT it is common knowledge at this point especially on futuremark benchmarks @ 1080p and games in general @ 1080p, threadripper will almost always lose. Then again, people buying threadripper probably are not on 1080p as it is unless you are a big enthusiast, which in that case it does not matter to them. Threadripper is all about multi-core performance. Single Thread/Core performance is a totally different story as well. Synthetic benches also tend to favor HEDT Intel vs TR due to infinity fabric as well, or so I am read. Just so many different factors to gauge, just one example is not enough. 

There are pretty good reasons we test at 1080p when benchmarking CPUs, testing at 4K is useless, it's like testing a Ferrari in the centre of Los Angeles, you end up measuring road traffic not car performance

Stefem

09973
Now now, lets not start calling people names, BUT it is common knowledge at this point especially on futuremark benchmarks @ 1080p and games in general @ 1080p, threadripper will almost always lose. Then again, people buying threadripper probably are not on 1080p as it is unless you are a big enthusiast, which in that case it does not matter to them. Threadripper is all about multi-core performance. Single Thread/Core performance is a totally different story as well. Synthetic benches also tend to favor HEDT Intel vs TR due to infinity fabric as well, or so I am read. Just so many different factors to gauge, just one example is not enough. 

There are pretty good reasons we test at 1080p when benchmarking CPUs, testing at 4K is useless, it's like testing a Ferrari in the centre of Los Angeles, you end up measuring road traffic not car performance

Thanks for the input. 4K, 5k and even 8k are the immediate future so I believe it does mater that a benchmark can test as high as possible. Single core is important right now but games are even moving to multi-core processing. This is the future don't get left behind.

CptSpig

Stefem

09973
Now now, lets not start calling people names, BUT it is common knowledge at this point especially on futuremark benchmarks @ 1080p and games in general @ 1080p, threadripper will almost always lose. Then again, people buying threadripper probably are not on 1080p as it is unless you are a big enthusiast, which in that case it does not matter to them. Threadripper is all about multi-core performance. Single Thread/Core performance is a totally different story as well. Synthetic benches also tend to favor HEDT Intel vs TR due to infinity fabric as well, or so I am read. Just so many different factors to gauge, just one example is not enough. 

There are pretty good reasons we test at 1080p when benchmarking CPUs, testing at 4K is useless, it's like testing a Ferrari in the centre of Los Angeles, you end up measuring road traffic not car performance

Thanks for the input. 4K, 5k and even 8k are the immediate future so I believe it does mater that a benchmark can test as high as possible. Single core is important right now but games are even moving to multi-core processing. This is the future don't get left behind.

This has nothing to do with single or multicore, the point is that resolution has nothing to do with CPU, in fact the work a CPU do at 1080p is exactly the same at 4K, as an extreme example at 8K most CPU will give you the same results despite having clearly different performance, that's because at such resolution you are (like the example with Ferrari and city traffic) testing the GPU and not the CPU. That's why CPU bench must be done at low resolution, you want to exclude the influence of the GPU as you are specifically testing the CPU, for the same reasons you don't test GPU at 1080p as in most of the games a GTX 1060 and a GTX 1080Ti in an identical PC will perform the same (as you are measuring CPU perf which hasn't changed) which will make the test useless.
And note that I said that 4K is useless to bench CPU and not that is useless in general, high resolutions are a needed to test GPU and is useful to test an entire machine or a game/simulator, I do that kind of thing for a living so I know what I'm talking about, it's just sad that there are many improvised "reviewers" on youtube with thousands views that completely lack any engineering and journalism background.

panzlock



And that was my point, exactly. The package as a whole needs to be evaluated, rather than relying on a single Futuremark score.
 
Regarding 1080p performance (the currently dominant resolution) TR and Ryzen itself is at a disadvantage. But reading numerous reviews the disadvantage is insignificant.
 
And I'll say it again. If you're purchasing Skylake-X's, Threadripper's and/or GTX 1080 Ti's to game at 1080p you're a moron who simply purchased top end components for bragging rights. "Oh, look at my benchmark score la la la...". Yeah, okay kid.
 
That wasn't a personal attack. That was a descriptive term. When someone points out one of your existing traits and you become upset or consider it a "personal attack", you lost the argument.
 
Let me explain this to you. A personal attack would be him calling you names, making statements which question your sexuality or involving your mother with the intent of throwing off your equilibrium. He did none of that. He made a statement regarding your approach to the issue at hand. You seem confident despite the fact that you provide little compelling evidence, some of which I personally found to be contrary based on reviews I've read over time.
 
Stop whinging.

 
I am not the one who is whining. You must be his backup? Here is the real definition of Personal Attack: Making of an abusive remark on or relating to somebody's person instead of providing evidence when examining another person's claims or comments. Calling me a "moron" because I purchased something you would not consider for your build. Wow you have some real issues. All of this over something as trivial as Intel vs AMD. I thought this forum was for people to share information and give their opinions. I guess you two missed that part. Life is good for me but I don't about you guys.
It's hard waiting for the 14, 16 and 18 core Skylake-X processors to be released! I will let you know when I get mine so you can call me a moron, and once again make your self feel big.
 

Stefem

CptSpig
I am not the one who is whining. You must be his backup? Here is the real definition of Personal Attack: Making of an abusive remark on or relating to somebody's person instead of providing evidence when examining another person's claims or comments. Calling me a "moron" because I purchased something you would not consider for your build. Wow you have some real issues. All of this over something as trivial as Intel vs AMD. I thought this forum was for people to share information and give their opinions. I guess you two missed that part. Life is good for me but I don't about you guys.
It's hard waiting for the 14, 16 and 18 core Skylake-X processors to be released! I will let you know when I get mine so you can call me a moron, and once again make your self feel big.
 

Let's get back on topic, I would love to see AMD 16 core vs Intel 16 core, the 7900X held up surprisingly well against Threadripper but I wonder how things will scale with more cores.

My Apologies to rjohnson11

I just wish Intel had used solder. Der8auer popped the top off a 7920X and it was just more TIM. Another thing in AMD's favor at this point. 

kougar
I just wish Intel had used solder. Der8auer popped the top off a 7920X and it was just more TIM. Another thing in AMD's favor at this point. 

Apply Occam's Razor: Either Intel doesn't think they will lose customers over TIM or they think their customers won't care or know enough to do something about it. The big deal being made over this probably isn't a big deal according to the majority of customers who aren't knowledge enthusiasts, otherwise they'd make a fuss over it and Intel would make the adjustment versus risk of sales loss.