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2024/10/06 02:49:02 (permalink)
https://www.techpowerup.com/327346/intel-confirms-13th-gen-and-14-gen-core-voltage-issues-fixed-with-0x12b-microcode
 
Intel 13th Gen and 14th Gen Core processor models based on the 8P+16E "Raptor Lake" silicon are prone to an infamous bug that caused their performance and stability to irreversibly degrade over time due to excessive voltage. This was isolated to a faulty microcode. Intel responded to this by extending the warranty of affected processor models, and releasing a slew of CPU microcode updates encapsulated into motherboard UEFI firmware updates, through PC OEMs and motherboard vendors, with the latest such microcode update being 0x12B. There's good news—Intel extensively tested affected processor models and confirmed that the 0x12B microcode fixes this issue. It is crucial that you update your motherboard BIOS (UEFI firmware) to the latest version, which contains this microcode.

The Verge recently interviewed Intel spokesperson Thomas Hannaford on this topic, who stated that the company had identified four scenarios causing processors to irreversibly degrade, and had recommended mitigations to stable processors before the degradation set in, with the latest microcode update fixing all outstanding scenarios. If a processor is unstable (i.e. degradation has set in), the firmware update is of no use, and you should just get the processor replaced under warranty. Intel extended the warranty to cover even the very first purchases of affected processor models. "Yes, we're confirming this is the cause and that it is fixed," Intel spokesperson Thomas Hannaford tells The Verge.
 
It took a long time but at least Intel finally resolved the issue. 

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    Re: Intel Confirms 13th Gen and 14 Gen Core Voltage Issues Fixed with 0x12B Microcode 2024/10/06 06:20:22 (permalink)
    Good to hear but not holding my breath with Intel's recent track record on the subject.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Intel Confirms 13th Gen and 14 Gen Core Voltage Issues Fixed with 0x12B Microcode 2024/10/06 08:27:01 (permalink)
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    Good to hear but not holding my breath with Intel's recent track record on the subject.



     
    (excerpt 1)
    "this was isolated to a faulty microcode. Intel responded to this by extending the warranty of affected processor models, and releasing a slew of CPU microcode updates encapsulated into motherboard UEFI firmware updates, through PC OEMs and motherboard vendors, with the latest such microcode update being 0x12B."
     
    --> So how will or maybe better Will --Intel reimburse the MB companies for all this extra work?
     
    (excerpt 2 & 3)
     
    "Intel spokesperson Thomas Hannaford on this topic, who stated that the company had identified four scenarios causing processors to irreversibly degrade, and had recommended mitigations to stable processors before the degradation set in, with the latest microcode update fixing all outstanding scenarios." --->"If a processor is unstable (i.e. degradation has set in), the firmware update is of no use, and you should just get the processor replaced under warranty."
     

    IMO

    Intel should publish a Voltage threshold that would allow warranty replacement .... If you need over x Volts to be stable @ x MHz --> your CPU is already showing the early stages of damage / degrading & Intel should replace that "damage / degraded" CPU.  My thought is that a CPU can be stable if the Voltage is high enough & that is what started this mess. 
     
    Intel's reputation is already in the gutter over this situation & Intel needs to Step it UP ... Big time! (replace degraded CPUs not just Fail CPUs) If Intel ever expects to repair their reputation, in the eyes of the consumer.


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    Re: Intel Confirms 13th Gen and 14 Gen Core Voltage Issues Fixed with 0x12B Microcode 2024/10/06 11:37:48 (permalink)
     
    So will EVGA issue yet another BIOS update?


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    Re: Intel Confirms 13th Gen and 14 Gen Core Voltage Issues Fixed with 0x12B Microcode 2024/10/06 12:29:03 (permalink)
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    So will EVGA issue yet another BIOS update?


     We can only hope the answer is yes - however, as before it will take time ... IF it happens
     
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    Re: Intel Confirms 13th Gen and 14 Gen Core Voltage Issues Fixed with 0x12B Microcode 2024/10/06 12:53:18 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    *snip*
    Glad I sold all my INTC stock, long before this mess / last 5y @ -54.85% 
     
    Avoiding the losers stocks is just as important as picking stock winners 


    Yup, that's what stop loss orders are for.


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    Re: Intel Confirms 13th Gen and 14 Gen Core Voltage Issues Fixed with 0x12B Microcode 2024/10/06 13:19:29 (permalink)
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    Cool GTX
    *snip*
    Glad I sold all my INTC stock, long before this mess / last 5y @ -54.85% 
     
    Avoiding the losers stocks is just as important as picking stock winners 


    Yup, that's what stop loss orders are for.




     
     
    Stop-loss --> Will BURN you "during mini crashes" - stop-loss is the trigger price & NOT the sales price - just puts your sale order in the queue ... ask me how I learned this the hard way a long time ago
     
    You probably want a stop-limit order
     
    We can start a Stock Thread or PM?
     
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    Intel has really lost their way & they need to take extraordinary steps, to keep consumers coming back after this mess & to restore stock investor confidence

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    Re: Intel Confirms 13th Gen and 14 Gen Core Voltage Issues Fixed with 0x12B Microcode 2024/10/06 14:08:04 (permalink)
    I see ASUS has their new BIOS update (0x12B) for the z690/790's out. It's in beta form yet, but it's out.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Intel Confirms 13th Gen and 14 Gen Core Voltage Issues Fixed with 0x12B Microcode 2024/10/06 14:17:41 (permalink)
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    *snip*
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    Avoiding the losers stocks is just as important as picking stock winners 


    Yup, that's what stop loss orders are for.

    Stop-loss --> Will BURN you "during mini crashes" - stop-loss is the trigger price & NOT the sales price - just puts your sale order in the queue ... ask me how I learned this the hard way a long time ago
     
    You probably want a stop-limit order
     
     
    We can start a Stock Thread or PM?

    More for day trading.. depends on your broker. You can place a floating order and set a percentage so if the stock price keeps going up, the sell order increases as well, so it is always relative to the current stock price. You have to set it according to the volatility of the specific stock. Just a way of limiting any loss on day trades and is usually reasonably reliable, but nothing is fool proof lol. I know what you mean about it triggering the order not the actual sale though, so you have to adjust accordingly and be ready to jump in and manually adjust it if needed. I don't have the time to day trade these days though.
     
    Sorry for off-topic. :)
     


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